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	Interviewer	~su.ip.m~io~	•
	Person interviewed	~	~manda Eos~
8~Ï7~ Schiller Stroét, Little Rock, Arkansas
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	“I was nine years old In. the time of the surrender. I know I was here In that time. I don‘t know nothin‘ ‘bout their carryin‘—on. I know they whipped them with hobble . You don‘ t know wha~t hobble rods is I I 1 Mn‘ t you. seen these here long thin hick‘ ry shoots? They called hobble rods. I don‘t know why they called ‘em hobble rods. I know they made you hobble. They‘d put ‘em in the fire and roast ‘em and twist ‘em. I have seen ‘em

whip them till the blood r~in down their backs. I‘ve seen ‘em tie the women	j up, strip ‘em naked to their waist and whip ‘em till the blood run down

their backs. They had a nigger whipper, too.

	“I was born in Salem, Alabama. I came up here about twenty—five years ago.

	“Isaac Adair was the name of the old man who owned ~. He owned my mother and father too, Hester and Scip. Their last nax~e was Adair, the same as their master‘s,

	“I don‘t remember the names of my grandfather and grandmother, ‘cause we was crossed up, you see, One of my grandmothers was named Grecie and the other was named Lydia. I don‘ t remember mY gran‘ s naine • I BP~ct I Used to call ‘im master. I used to remember them but I don‘t no mores NObOdy can‘t wori~ me ‘bout them old tolka now. They ast !fl~ 811 them quea~.

~	tjons at the Welfare ~ They want to know your gran‘ pa and your gran ‘ma. Who were they, what did they do, where did they live, where are they now? I don‘ t know what they did. That ‚ s too tar back for me,