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From: Bertha Mo <bertiemo@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [WomenLiteracy] Referrals
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I am sure that someone in Atlanta must have a  referral book;  United Way, the local social services or community  mental health.  However, if there isn't one, this is such a great  service learning project for a group of students at a local University.
  
  In St. Lawrence County, upstate New York where I work, there are two  agencies;  Reachout and Renewal House which anyone can call and  obtain referrals for many services.
  
  Best, 
  
  Bertie Mo, Ph.D., MPH

Daphne Greenberg <alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu> wrote:Nicole  suggests that we "develop an information and referral system of social  service agencies..." I know that I have utilized United Way quite a bit  in order to find social services for adult learners in the Atlanta  area. Has anyone used any other kind of angencies to find referrals? 
Actually,  do you find that your learners are asking for referrals? I know that I  have been asked for the following kinds of referrals:
employment centers
therapists
low cost dental/medical help.
Does anyone on this list have similar kinds of requests?
Daphne

>>> nicwhite@comcast.net 01/27/06 10:38 AM >>>
Hello  again Daphne. :) In response to your email, I thought I should share  with you (and other readers) a bit about our adult literacy program...  This may/may not help answer your question about support...

An  integral part of the program that I run consists of incorporating  personal growth workshops, and offering these workshops for free to  clients of our literacy program. These workshops include Assertiveness  Training, Healthy Living, and Self Esteem (to name a few). When our  program was founded (Jan. '04), there was a focus on life-skills  training for our students... Since then, we have expanded our own  horizons to incorporate more educational work and GED preparation (in  particular), but we still offer the personal growth workshops (which  are CONSTANTLY full of students).

While I do not facilitate  these workshops myself (we have certified facilitators who provide that  service for us), I do witness the bond and support that develops  amongst the women who participate in these workshops. Like I have  mentioned in previous posts, our center does provide counseling  services, as well as rape crisis intervention, so we are blessed to  have those services, as well as other programs like our literacy  program all in one location. 

For those of you who find  yourselves in need of such services, but do not have them on-site and  at your disposal, I would highly encourage you to develop an  information and referral system of social service agencies in your  area. Collaboration (as we all see with this list-serv) is a key  component to the success of providing services to the community. 

I hope this helps....  I know I went off on a tangent, but I hope this helps to atleast stimulate some good conversation.  :)

Nicole     

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www.womenscenterofjax.org
www.promotetruth.org

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Daphne Greenberg" 
> Bertie mentions rape crisis, violence prevention and intervention groups and 
> therapists as potential sources of support. I am wondering what exists in adult 
> literacy programs. The adult literacy programs in my immediate community does 
> not provide social work or counseling services. However, I believe that some of 
> you may be involved with programs that have these kinds of support services. We 
> would love to hear about them! Also, I am wondering, what do you do when you 
> don't have these kinds of support services available. Who do you reach out to in 
> your program for "unofficial" "informal" support? 
> Daphne
> 
> >>> bertiemo@yahoo.com 1/22/2006 6:28 PM >>>
> I think that any therapist or group associated with violence prevention and 
> intervention, even a rape crisis program (not associated) with the police should 
> have counselling resources for both of you.  
>  
>  It is so important to realize that this is not an isolated incident...that if 
> Daniella was treated this way then anyone who is different from a diverse group 
> could elicit the same response...So besides dealing with the trauma, it is time 
> to find like minded people in this community.  And if there is no community, 
> then it is time to create it...Because the following  will happen....
>  
>   "I did nothing when they took the Jews away because I was not Jewish, I did 
> not nothing when they took the Japanese-Americans away, because I was not 
> Japanese American.  I did nothing when they came to take the gays away, because 
> I was not gay.    When they came take me away, no one was there to do 
> anything...
>  
>  I know that the name of the community may not be identified because of 
> confidentiality issues, but I think that any community in the US today, but the 
> smallest would have resources.  And if there are no local resourses perhaps one 
> needs to go to another level.
>  
>  Best,
>  
>  Bertie
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Daphne Greenberg  wrote:I have been thinking a lot about 
> Daniella and her teacher. I am struck by how the teacher was very thankful to 
> Bertie for pointing out that the BOTH of them were victims and might want to 
> seek support. 
> How often, do we as teachers, check in with ourselves and notice whether we need 
> support after dealing with a difficult issue in class? Is it easy to get this 
> kind of support? Who can we reach out to for this kind of help?
> Any thoughts? 
> Daphne
> 
> >>> alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu 01/16/06 5:13 PM >>>
> Bertie,
> You make great suggestions. In answer to your questions, apparently Daniella did 
> not want to press charges. Apparently, she had been the victim of many attacks 
> near her school and the police often psychologically abused her, making fun of 
> her way of dressing, calling her derogatory names, and telling her that she 
> deserved to be beaten up. She did not feel comfortable reaching out to 
> counselors, apparently she did not have good experiences at her high school with 
> counselors telling her that she had to dress more appropriately (i.e. like a 
> boy) when she attended school.
> The teacher wants me to thank you for your comment:
> "Daniella and the teacher were both victims of violence against women...They 
> both needed support."
> The teacher was traumatized by this event, feeling responsible for Daniella 
> getting beaten up. Although she knows that she did not commit the crime, she 
> does feel very guilty about not making sure that noone could eavesdrop while 
> Daniella was talking to her. No one had ever mentioned to her that counselling 
> may help her with this experience, and she is going to look into it. She thanks 
> you. Up until now she focused on the impact this all had on Daniella without 
> thinking about the impact it had on her.
> Daphne
>    
> 
> >>> bertiemo@yahoo.com 01/12/06 12:05 PM >>>
> I feel very sad and angry about what happened to Daniella. Unfortunately this is 
> after the fact, but I have a few suggests for this teacher>
>    
>  1. I encourage everyone of the students in my Freshman Success Class and also 
> who is in my opportunity program to make a private 15 to 20 minute appt. with me 
> so we can get to know one another....and we can talk about issues such as nick 
> names, unusual issues..All behind closed doors..
>    
>  2. Be more careful about issues of privacy and confidentiality....some issues 
> are best discussed during office hours behind closed doors
>    
>   3.  Safety of classrooms needs to be discussed with sponsors of literacy 
> programs.
>        After the incident was there a discussion about follow/up steps...
>    
>   4.  Did Daniella and the instructor receive  counseling and support after the 
> incident...
>    
>   5.  Was she ask about pressing charges and how she would be supporting to do 
> this...
>    
>   Daniella and the teacher were both victims of violence against women...They 
> both needed support.  
>    
>  Several years ago, I was experienced an apt. invasion by a homeless man...I was 
> pretty outraged when I didn't receive support from the police, or the few 
> friends that I called...I wasn't physically hurt, but I felt psychologically 
> invaded. I think I moved home to my parents house for a while after that 
> incident.
>    
>   Best,
>    
>   Bertie Mo
> 
> Daphne Greenberg  wrote:
>  In response to a few postings that have been shared on this listserv, someone 
> shared with me a story that she wanted me to post on her behalf. The names and 
> some of the details have been changed to protect the identity of the people/site 
> involved.
> A 17 year old, named Daniella F. showed up in the teacher's GED class. She had 
> only sporadically attended classes at her highschool and once she could legally 
> drop out did. One day she overheard people in a public library talking about a 
> GED class and she decided to registar. She went to the office of the GED 
> program, registered, got tested and then was placed in an appropriate class for 
> someone at her level. She attended every day. After a few weeks of class, the 
> teacher noticed a discrepancy in the names of the students that the office had 
> sent her and the names of the students who showed up in class. Specifically, her 
> roster showed a Daniel F. and not a Daniella F. So one day, she asked the class 
> if anyone knew a Daniel F. Noone raised their hand. She then, asked Daniella if 
> by any chance Daniel was her brother. She said no. Then she asked Daniella if 
> she had enrolled in the program, because she noticed that she did not have a 
> Daniella F. on her roster. Daniella replied th
> at she did. At the end of class, Daniella went up to the teacher and admitted 
> that she was Daniel. Apparently, because her official name is Daniel, she 
> enrolled as Daniel, but she likes to be called Daniella. When she enrolled as 
> Daniel, she dressed like a male, but once she attended class she dressed the way 
> she feels comfortable, which is as a female. Unfortunately, both the teacher and 
> Daniella did not know that there were some students in the hallway who heard 
> Daniella share her information. When Daniella left program that day, they 
> followed her as she walked away and in an empty and deserted lot they beat her 
> up. They were a group of 3 teenage males who found her offensive. Daniella did 
> not return to the program. The teacher was able to keep in touch with her for a 
> few weeks and even tutored her for awhile, but then Daniella left town without 
> leaving any contact information.
> Any thoughts or reactions to the above? 
> Daphne
> 
> Daphne Greenberg
> Assistant Professor
> Educational Psych. & Special Ed.
> Georgia State University
> P.O. Box 3979
> Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979
> phone: 404-651-0127
> fax:404-651-4901
> dgreenberg@gsu.edu 
> 
> Daphne Greenberg
> Associate Director
> Center for the Study of Adult Literacy
> Georgia State University
> P.O. Box 3977
> Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977
> phone: 404-651-0127
> fax:404-651-4901
> dgreenberg@gsu.edu 
> 
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<div id="RTEContent">I am sure that someone in Atlanta must have a  referral book;  United Way, the local social services or community  mental health.  However, if there isn't one, this is such a great  service learning project for a group of students at a local University.<br>  <br>  In St. Lawrence County, upstate New York where I work, there are two  agencies;  Reachout and Renewal House which anyone can call and  obtain referrals for many services.<br>  <br>  Best, <br>  <br>  Bertie Mo, Ph.D., MPH<br><br><b><i>Daphne Greenberg <alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">Nicole  suggests that we "develop an information and referral system of social  service agencies..." I know that I have utilized United Way quite a bit  in order to find social services for adult learners in the Atlanta  area. Has anyone used any other kind of angencies to find
 referrals? <br>Actually,  do you find that your learners are asking for referrals? I know that I  have been asked for the following kinds of referrals:<br>employment centers<br>therapists<br>low cost dental/medical help.<br>Does anyone on this list have similar kinds of requests?<br>Daphne<br><br>>>> nicwhite@comcast.net 01/27/06 10:38 AM >>><br>Hello  again Daphne. :) In response to your email, I thought I should share  with you (and other readers) a bit about our adult literacy program...  This may/may not help answer your question about support...<br><br>An  integral part of the program that I run consists of incorporating  personal growth workshops, and offering these workshops for free to  clients of our literacy program. These workshops include Assertiveness  Training, Healthy Living, and Self Esteem (to name a few). When our  program was founded (Jan. '04), there was a focus on life-skills  training for our students... Since then, we have expanded ou
 r own 
 horizons to incorporate more educational work and GED preparation (in  particular), but we still offer the personal growth workshops (which  are CONSTANTLY full of students).<br><br>While I do not facilitate  these workshops myself (we have certified facilitators who provide that  service for us), I do witness the bond and support that develops  amongst the women who participate in these workshops. Like I have  mentioned in previous posts, our center does provide counseling  services, as well as rape crisis intervention, so we are blessed to  have those services, as well as other programs like our literacy  program all in one location. <br><br>For those of you who find  yourselves in need of such services, but do not have them on-site and  at your disposal, I would highly encourage you to develop an  information and referral system of social service agencies in your  area. Collaboration (as we all see with this list-serv) is a key  component to the success of providing servi
 ces to
 the community. <br><br>I hope this helps....  I know I went off on a tangent, but I hope this helps to atleast stimulate some good conversation.  :)<br><br>Nicole     <br><br>--<br>Nicole White<br>Program Coordinator<br>Expanded Horizons Literacy Program<br>Women's Center of Jacksonville<br>(904)722-3000 ext: 233<br>www.womenscenterofjax.org<br>www.promotetruth.org<br><br> -------------- Original message ----------------------<br>From: "Daphne Greenberg" <ALCDGG @langate.gsu.edu=""><br>> Bertie mentions rape crisis, violence prevention and intervention groups and <br>> therapists as potential sources of support. I am wondering what exists in adult <br>> literacy programs. The adult literacy programs in my immediate community does <br>> not provide social work or counseling services. However, I believe that some of <br>> you may be involved with programs that have these kinds of support services. We <br>> would love to hear about them! Also, I am wondering, 
 what do
 you do when you <br>> don't have these kinds of support services available. Who do you reach out to in <br>> your program for "unofficial" "informal" support? <br>> Daphne<br>> <br>> >>> bertiemo@yahoo.com 1/22/2006 6:28 PM >>><br>> I think that any therapist or group associated with violence prevention and <br>> intervention, even a rape crisis program (not associated) with the police should <br>> have counselling resources for both of you.  <br>>  <br>>  It is so important to realize that this is not an isolated incident...that if <br>> Daniella was treated this way then anyone who is different from a diverse group <br>> could elicit the same response...So besides dealing with the trauma, it is time <br>> to find like minded people in this community.  And if there is no community, <br>> then it is time to create it...Because the following  will happen....<br>>  <br>>   "I did nothing when they took the Jews 
 away
 because I was not Jewish, I did <br>> not nothing when they took the Japanese-Americans away, because I was not <br>> Japanese American.  I did nothing when they came to take the gays away, because <br>> I was not gay.    When they came take me away, no one was there to do <br>> anything...<br>>  <br>>  I know that the name of the community may not be identified because of <br>> confidentiality issues, but I think that any community in the US today, but the <br>> smallest would have resources.  And if there are no local resourses perhaps one <br>> needs to go to another level.<br>>  <br>>  Best,<br>>  <br>>  Bertie<br>>  <br>>  <br>>  <br>>  <br>>  <br>>  <br>>  <br>>  <br>> <br>> Daphne Greenberg <alcdgg @langate.gsu.edu=""> wrote:I have been thinking a lot about <br>> Daniella and her teacher. I am struck by how the teacher was very thankful to <br>> Bertie for pointing out that the BOTH of them wer
 e
 victims and might want to <br>> seek support. <br>> How often, do we as teachers, check in with ourselves and notice whether we need <br>> support after dealing with a difficult issue in class? Is it easy to get this <br>> kind of support? Who can we reach out to for this kind of help?<br>> Any thoughts? <br>> Daphne<br>> <br>> >>> alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu 01/16/06 5:13 PM >>><br>> Bertie,<br>> You make great suggestions. In answer to your questions, apparently Daniella did <br>> not want to press charges. Apparently, she had been the victim of many attacks <br>> near her school and the police often psychologically abused her, making fun of <br>> her way of dressing, calling her derogatory names, and telling her that she <br>> deserved to be beaten up. She did not feel comfortable reaching out to <br>> counselors, apparently she did not have good experiences at her high school with <br>> counselors telling her t
 hat she
 had to dress more appropriately (i.e. like a <br>> boy) when she attended school.<br>> The teacher wants me to thank you for your comment:<br>> "Daniella and the teacher were both victims of violence against women...They <br>> both needed support."<br>> The teacher was traumatized by this event, feeling responsible for Daniella <br>> getting beaten up. Although she knows that she did not commit the crime, she <br>> does feel very guilty about not making sure that noone could eavesdrop while <br>> Daniella was talking to her. No one had ever mentioned to her that counselling <br>> may help her with this experience, and she is going to look into it. She thanks <br>> you. Up until now she focused on the impact this all had on Daniella without <br>> thinking about the impact it had on her.<br>> Daphne<br>>    <br>> <br>> >>> bertiemo@yahoo.com 01/12/06 12:05 PM >>><br>> I feel very sad and angry about what happene
 d to
 Daniella. Unfortunately this is <br>> after the fact, but I have a few suggests for this teacher><br>>    <br>>  1. I encourage everyone of the students in my Freshman Success Class and also <br>> who is in my opportunity program to make a private 15 to 20 minute appt. with me <br>> so we can get to know one another....and we can talk about issues such as nick <br>> names, unusual issues..All behind closed doors..<br>>    <br>>  2. Be more careful about issues of privacy and confidentiality....some issues <br>> are best discussed during office hours behind closed doors<br>>    <br>>   3.  Safety of classrooms needs to be discussed with sponsors of literacy <br>> programs.<br>>        After the incident was there a discussion about follow/up steps...<br>>    <br>>   4.  Did Daniella and the instructor receive  counseling and support after the <br>> incident...<br>>    <br>>   5.  Was she ask about pressing charges and h
 ow she
 would be supporting to do <br>> this...<br>>    <br>>   Daniella and the teacher were both victims of violence against women...They <br>> both needed support.  <br>>    <br>>  Several years ago, I was experienced an apt. invasion by a homeless man...I was <br>> pretty outraged when I didn't receive support from the police, or the few <br>> friends that I called...I wasn't physically hurt, but I felt psychologically <br>> invaded. I think I moved home to my parents house for a while after that <br>> incident.<br>>    <br>>   Best,<br>>    <br>>   Bertie Mo<br>> <br>> Daphne Greenberg  wrote:<br>>  In response to a few postings that have been shared on this listserv, someone <br>> shared with me a story that she wanted me to post on her behalf. The names and <br>> some of the details have been changed to protect the identity of the people/site <br>> involved.<br>> A 17 year old, named Daniella F. showed up in the t
 eacher's
 GED class. She had <br>> only sporadically attended classes at her highschool and once she could legally <br>> drop out did. One day she overheard people in a public library talking about a <br>> GED class and she decided to registar. She went to the office of the GED <br>> program, registered, got tested and then was placed in an appropriate class for <br>> someone at her level. She attended every day. After a few weeks of class, the <br>> teacher noticed a discrepancy in the names of the students that the office had <br>> sent her and the names of the students who showed up in class. Specifically, her <br>> roster showed a Daniel F. and not a Daniella F. So one day, she asked the class <br>> if anyone knew a Daniel F. Noone raised their hand. She then, asked Daniella if <br>> by any chance Daniel was her brother. She said no. Then she asked Daniella if <br>> she had enrolled in the program, because she noticed that she did not have a <br>&g
 t;
 Daniella F. on her roster. Daniella replied th<br>> at she did. At the end of class, Daniella went up to the teacher and admitted <br>> that she was Daniel. Apparently, because her official name is Daniel, she <br>> enrolled as Daniel, but she likes to be called Daniella. When she enrolled as <br>> Daniel, she dressed like a male, but once she attended class she dressed the way <br>> she feels comfortable, which is as a female. Unfortunately, both the teacher and <br>> Daniella did not know that there were some students in the hallway who heard <br>> Daniella share her information. When Daniella left program that day, they <br>> followed her as she walked away and in an empty and deserted lot they beat her <br>> up. They were a group of 3 teenage males who found her offensive. Daniella did <br>> not return to the program. The teacher was able to keep in touch with her for a <br>> few weeks and even tutored her for awhile, but then Daniella le
 ft town
 without <br>> leaving any contact information.<br>> Any thoughts or reactions to the above? <br>> Daphne<br>> <br>> Daphne Greenberg<br>> Assistant Professor<br>> Educational Psych. & Special Ed.<br>> Georgia State University<br>> P.O. Box 3979<br>> Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979<br>> phone: 404-651-0127<br>> fax:404-651-4901<br>> dgreenberg@gsu.edu <br>> <br>> Daphne Greenberg<br>> Associate Director<br>> Center for the Study of Adult Literacy<br>> Georgia State University<br>> P.O. Box 3977<br>> Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977<br>> phone: 404-651-0127<br>> fax:404-651-4901<br>> dgreenberg@gsu.edu <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------<br>> National Insitute for Literacy<br>> Women and Literacy mailing list<br>> WomenLiteracy@nifl.gov <br>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to <br>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/womenliteracy <
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