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ALREADY BEEN DECIDED BY THE VOTE OF THE SENATE. BUT UNDER THIS
RULE, EACH SENATOR -- MYSELF NOW BEING THE ONE ON THE FLOOR --
HAS AN HOUR TO DISCUSS THE REASON FOR MY VOTE ON THIS ISSUE.
BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS IT EVEN THOUGH THE
VOTE HAS OCCURRED BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DID. I TRIED IN VERY FEW BRIEF MINUTES,
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THANKS TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE MINORITY LEADER, WHO WAS
KIND ENOUGH TO ALLOW ME THREE MINUTES OF HIS
TIME TO DO THIS PRIOR TO 9:45 WHEN WE HAD THE VOTE WHICH WAS
AGREED TO BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, I TRIED TO POINT OUT WHAT WE
WERE ABOUT TO DO. APPARENTLY NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WERE
LISTENING. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN WHAT WE DID. THE
HOUSE PASSED H.R. 1501 AND SENT IT HERE. THAT IS A CULTURAL
BILL. IT ALLOWS THE DISPLAY OF TEN COMMANDMENTS IN SCHOOLS. IT
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ALLOWS INDIVIDUAL RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION. IT ALLOWS PRAYER AT
SCHOOL MEMORIAL SERVICES. AND IT ALLOWS FAITH-BASED GROUPS TO
COMPETE FOR GOVERNMENT JUVENILE JUSTICE GRTS. A GOOD BILL. THE
PURPOSE OF THAT BILL WAS TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT JUVENILES
THAT PERHAPS THE ISSUE IS NOT GUNS, BUT RATHER A CULTURAL
PROBLEM IN OUR SCHOOLS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. AND IT WAS A
WELL-THOUGHT-OUT BILL. WHEN THAT BILL CAME HERE TO THE SENATE,
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I TRIED TO GET A VOTE UP OR DOWN ON IT. BUT BECAUSE OF
PROCEDURES BY THOSE WHO FELT THAT THE BILL SHOULD NOT BE
PASSED, I COULDN'T DO IT. I WAS SHUT OUT BY THE SO-CALLED
LEGISLATIVE TREE HERE, PARLIAMENTARY TREE, WHERE A SUBSTITUTE
WAS -- AMENDMENT WAS PUT IN SO THAT I COULD NOT OFFER THIS BILL
AND GET A VOTE ON IT. SO NOW THE NEXT OPTION IS HERE COMES GUN
CONTROL, THE SENATE PROVISIONS. SO WE HAVE A HOUSE BILL AND A
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SENATE BILL. THE SENATE BILL IMPOSES STRICT LIMITS ON GUN
SHOWS. IT IMPOSES -- IT REQUIRES THE SALE OF TRIGGER LOCKS WITH
GUNS AND IT PUTS NEW LIMITS ON JUVENILE GUN POSSESSION, THE
KINDS OF JUVENILES THAT SENATOR CRAIG JUST SPOKE ABOUT. YOUNG
TEENAGERS WHO PERHAPS MIGHT LIKE TO GO HUNT ORGANIZE SPORT
SHOOTING OR WHATEVER. NEEDLESS RESTRICTIONS ON LAW-ABIDING
AMERICAN CITIZENS, YOUNG AND OLD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED. THIS NOW WAS
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SUBSTITUTED FOR THIS AS A RESULT OF THE VOTE THAT WE JUST HAD.
SO NOW THIS WILL GO TO CONFERENCE, AND SOMEONE SAID A SHORT
TIME AGO, OR QUITE SOME TIME AGO THAT IF YOU SAW H HOW LAWS AND
SAUSAGE WERE MADE, YOU'D PROBABLY GET SICK AND WOULDN'T WANT A
PART OF EITHER ONE. THERE'S A LOT OF TRUTH TO THAT. I'VE NEVER
HAD CONFIDENCE IN THOSE WHO SAY WE'LL CLEAN THIS UP IN
CONFERENCE OR WE'LL GET A GOOD BILL OUT OF CONFERENCE, LET THE
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CONFEREES WORK THEIR WILL. THIS IS GUN CONTROL. THIS IS A
VIOLATION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT. WE JUST VOTED BY A VOTE OF
77-22 TO PUT MORE GUN CONTROL ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. LET'S
JUST CALL IT WHAT IT IS. BECAUSE WHEN THIS THING COMES OUT OF
CONFERENCE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE GUN CONTROL. AND WE'LL SEE WHO'S
RIGHT ON THAT ONE. DURING THE SENATE'S CONSIDERATION OF S. 254,
I WAS VERY UPSET THAT THE GUN CONTROL LOBBY IN THIS COUNTRY
TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY, AND THEY DID A GOOD JOB
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OF IT. THIS WAS A VERY EMOTIONAL TIME, A HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, AND
THE GUN CONTROL PEOPLE CAME DOWN HERE AND THEY USED IT TO THE
HILT, AND THEY SCARED A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF. AND WHAT HAPPENED AT
LITTLETON WAS A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY, AND PEOPLE USED THIS HERE ON
THE SENATE FLOOR AND THEY MOUNTED AN UNPRECEDENTED ASSAULT ON
THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING AMERICAN GUN OWNERS.
NOT ONE LAW-ABIDING AMERICAN CITIZEN HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH
COLUMBINE. NOT ONE. NOT ONE-LAW ABIDING AMERICAN CITIZEN. NOT
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ONE GUN OWNER WHO IS A LAW-ABIDING CITIZEN. NOT ONE JUVENILE
WHO IS A LAW-ABIDING CITIZEN. THEY CAST THE BLAME ON THE
LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNER WHILE LEAVING THE MOVIE MOGULS WHO
PROMOTE VIOLENCE TO CHILDREN, BY THE WAY, THEY LEAVE THEM
UNSKAIGD. NO MENTION. THE PROBLEM IS GUNS, THEY SAID. NOT THE
CULTURE. IT'S INTERESTING, ISN'T IT?
WE TAKE PRAYER OUT. WE TAKE VALUES OUT -- OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
WHAT COMES IN?
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VIOLENCE, DRUGS, CONDOMS. HELLO, AMERICA. WAKE UP. BUT IT WAS
WELL DONE. IT WAS WELL ORCHESTRATED. IT SCARED OFF ENOUGH
PEOPLE. IT SCARED OFFHE 19 OR SO VOTES THAT WE NEEDED TO BLOCK
CLOTURE ON THIS BILL. THE HOUSE DID THE RIGHT THING, MR.
PRESIDENT. WE DID THE WRONG THING. WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD INTRO
SPECK ALTERNATIVE LOOK AT OUR NATION'S CULTURE. THIS BILL DID
THAT. THIS BILL DOES NOT DO THAT. WE SEE VIDEO GAMES DESIGNED
FOR YOUNG PEOPLE THAT GLORIFY VIOLENCE. AND I WOULD SAY TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE TAKING A FEW MOMENTS TO LISTEN,
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TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE VIDEO GAMES THAT YOUR KIDS ARE LOOKING AT.
TAKE A LOOK AT THEM. TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE WATCHING ON
THE INTERNET. TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE MOVIES THAT THEY'RE
GOING OUT TO EROL'S AND BRICK HOME AND WATCHING AFTER YOU GO TO
BED. YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND SEE WHAT'S GOING
ON IN YOUR LIVES AND IN YOUR CHILDREN'S LIVES. THEY GLORIFY
VIOLENCE. THEY INVITE CHILDREN TO ENGAGE IN FANTASY KILLINGS.
THEY NEVER SHOW YOU THE OPPOSITE, THOUGH. WHEN SOMEBODY IS SHOT
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IN ONE OF THESE VIDEO GAMES, THEY DON'T MENTION THE FACT THAT
THIS PERSON WHO IS KILLED MAY HAVE A FAMILY. THEY DON'T TALK
ABOUT THAT. YOU ONLY SEE THE GLORIFICATION OF VIOLENCE. WE SEE
UNCON KHONABLY -- UNCON CIONABLY KILLINGS SUCH AS BASKETBALL
DIARIES IN WHICH KILLINGS BEAR A RESEMBLANCE TO THE LITTLETON
MASSACRES T. DOESN'T MEAN EVERY KID THAT WOULD WATCH THAT KIND
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OF MOVIE WOULD DO THAT. SOME KIDS CAN HANDLE IT. SOME CAN'T. SO
WHY EXPOSE IT TO THEM. WE SEE MOVIES SUCH AS THAT OF THE
SO-CALLED MARILYN MANSON CHARACTER THAT GLORIFY MURDER, SODOMY.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, PLATINUM RECORDS, BIG SALES ON THOSE
RECORDS GLORIFYING MURDER, SUICIDE AND SODOMY. OUR KIDS ARE
LISTENING TO THIS IN AMERICA, AND WE GLAIM GUNS. WE BLAME GUNS.
Y JUST BLAME GUNS WITH THIS VOTE. WE SEE THE MARKET OF OF
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VIOLENCE IN MANY FORMS OVER THE INTERNET. TO BE SURE, MR.
PRESIDENT, EVERY CHILD ISN'T GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL AND MURDER
HIS CLASSMATES OR HIS TEACHER BECAUSE HE WATCHES OR PLAYS SOME
VIDEO GAME OR LISTENS TO VIOLENT MUSIC, BUT SOME ARE GOING TO
BE INFLUENCED BY THAT CULTURE. I HAD A SHOTGUN NEXT TO MY BED
FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER -- EIGHT OR NINE YEARS OLD. KNEW
HOW TO USE IT. I WAS TRAINED TO USE IT IN THE PROPER WAY. NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT GOING TO SCHOOL AND USE IT ON ANYBODY. NEITHER
DID ANY OF MY CLASSMATES WHO ALSO HAD SHOTGUNS. I REMEMBER
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HEARING IT SAID WHEN I GREW UP THAT IF YOU READ GOOD BOOKS,
GOOD THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN. BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF A YOUNG PERSON
WATCHES A BAD FILM OR PLAYS AN EVIL VIDEO GAME, BAD THINGS MAY
HAPPEN. WHY TAKE A CHANCE?
BUT, OH, NO, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DO THIS, ISN'T IT?
BLAME THE GUN. BLAME THE GUN. BLAME SOMEBODY ELSE. DON'T LOOK
IN. DON'T LOOK IN AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN AMERICA. WAKE UP,
AMERICA BEFORE IT TOFS TOO LATE. THIS IS THE SECOND AMENDMENT
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TO THE CONSTITUTION THAT WE JUST VIOLATED. IT'S NOT GUNS THAT
CAUSE THIS VIOLENCE. IT'S INTERESTING, THE FIRST GUN I WOULD
PROBABLY ACCEPT CAME OVER ON A SHIP PROBABLY IN 1607. MOST
LIKELY SOMEBODY HAD A GUN COMING INTO JAMESTOWN. FOR 375 WE HAD
NO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. NOT ONE. NOW WE HAVE GUN CONTROL, 40,000
LAWS, ACCORDING TO SENATOR CRAIG, IN AMERICA. AND NOW WE HAVE
SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. HELLO?
ANYBODY LISTENING?
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
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IS IT GUNS?
IF IT IS, HOW COME WE DIDN'T HAVE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS FOR 375
YEARS WHEN EVERYBODY HAD A GUN?
I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE -- I BELIEVE WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE
NEWS MEDIA. THE NEWS MEDIA, THEY HAVE A DISTRESSING TENDENCY
HERE TO ENGAGE IN SENSATIONALISM. THE MINDLESS -- AND IT IS
MINDLESS -- PURSUIT OF GREATER RATINGS RINGS. ON APRIL 20, THIS
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YEAR, WHEN THE CHILDREN CAME TUMBLING OUT THE COLUMBINE HIGH
SCHOOL, BLOOD ON THEIR CLOTHES, SOME OF THEM WOUNDED, CRYING,
WHAT HAPPENED?
MICROPHONES IN THEIR FACE. WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO WITNESS YOUR
CLASSMATES' DEATH?
DID HE SAY ANYTHING AS HE DIED?
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY NEEDED WHEN THEY CAME OUT OF THAT HIGH
SCHOOL, MY FELLOW AMERICANS?
THEY NEEDED A HUG. YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE REALLY MADE ME FEEL GOOD?
IF ONE OF THOSE NEWS MEDIA HAD LAID DOWN THE MICROPHONE AND
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LAID DOWN THE CAMERA AND WALKED UP TO ONE OF THOSE KIDS AND PUT
HIS ARMS AROUND HIM OR HER ARMS AROUND HIM AND SAID, "I'M
SORRY, WE LOVE YOU." BUT, OH, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE'VE GOT
TO GET RIGHT IN THE FACE WITH THE MICROPHONE AND THE CAMERA AND
SENSATIONALIZE THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE, AND THEN WE BLAME GUNS.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE?
THIS BILL ADDRESSED THIS, TRIED TO. YOU CAN'T ADDRESS THESE
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KINDS OF THINGS WITH LAWS, BUT YOU CAN AT LEAST MAKE AN
ATTEMPT. YOU TAKE THESE THINGS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS, AND THE KIDS
DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE. THEY CAN'T PRAY. THEY CAN'T TALK ABOUT
VALUES. TEACHERS TRY TO COMFORT THEIR KIDS BY -- IF SOMEBODY
GETS KILLED BY SAYING A PRAYER, AND THE TEACHER GETS FIRED. AND
WE TAKE AWAY GUNS AND BLAME GUNS. H.R. 1501 DECLARES THAT STATE
AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE POWER TO DISPLAY THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. THIS WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC
SCHOOLS TO POST THOSE TEN COMMAND MANAGEMENT. DOES ANYONE
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SERIOUSLY ARGUE THAT THE PUBLIC DISPLAY OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL WOULDN'T HELP KIDS AT LEAST THINK A LITTLE
BIT?
THEY DO REPRESENT THE MORAL FOUNDATION OF OUR ENTIRE
CIVILIZATION. ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH "THOU SHALT NOT KILL"?
ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM K "THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALL NOT
BEAR FALSE WITNESS. HONOR THY MOTHER AND FATHER." ANYBODY HAVE
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A PROBLEM WITH THOSE. IS THAT GOING TO THREATEN WESTERN
CIVILIZATION TO PUT THOSE UP ON THE WALL OF A SCHOOL?
REALLY. COME ON. H.R. 1501 -- THIS BILL -- DECLARES THE
EXPRESSION OF RELIGIOUS FAITH BY INDIVIDUAL SPERNS PROTECTED BY
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS PROVISION WOULD
ALLOW GREATER FREEDOM FOR INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS TO EXPRESS THEIR
RELIGIOUS FAITHS, WHATEVER IT IS, AS WELL AS TO ORGANIZE AND
PARTICIPATE IN STUDENT-LED RELIGIOUS ACTSIVITIES IN PUBLIC
SCHOOLS. DOES ANYONE SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT GREATER RELIGIOUS
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FREEDOM IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WOULD NOT IMPROVE THE CULTURAL
ENVIRONMENT IN THESE SCHOOLS?
YOU KNOW, WE SPEND MORE TIME TRYING TO DENY RELIGION AND VALUES
IN OUR SCHOOLS. WE SPEND MORE TIME DOING THAT THAN WE SPEND
WITH OUR OWN KIDS. THINK ABOUT IT. IF WE SPENT AS MUCH TIME
WITH OUR KIDS AND LOVING OUR KIDS AS WE DO TRYING TO DENY THEM
THESE KINDS OF THINGS, WE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER AMERICA. BUT
LET'S GO BACK AND BLAME GUNS. THAT'S WHAT WE DID HERE. WE JUST
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BLAME GUNS. WE PUT GUN CONTROL AND SUBSTITUTED IT WITH THIS.
FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS CAN COMPETE FOR GOVERNMENT GRANTS
UNDER THIS BILL. DOES ANYONE DOUBT THAT INVOLVING FAITH-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS IN JUVENILE JUSTICE WOULD IMPROVE OUR NATION'S
JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM?
THESE CULTURAL APPROACHES TO SOLVING THE PROBLEM OF YOUTH
VIOLENCE OFFER GREAT PROMISE. THIS BILL OFFERS GREAT PROMISE.
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THIS BILL OFFERS GUN CONTROL. THIS IS THE COWARD'S WAY OUT, MR.
PRESIDENT. THIS IS THE OSTRICH VOTE. PUT YOUR HEAD IN THE
STAND, BLAME THE GUN. DON'T DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. WE WOULDN'T
WANT TO HAVE TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL AS PERHAPS
POSTING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN A SCHOOL. I WAS DISAPPOINTED
DURING THE SENATE'S CONSIDERATION OF THIS BILL, MR. PRESIDENT.
I WAS DISAPPOINTED, FRANKLY, IN SOME OF MY CONSERVATIVE
COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE, SOME OF MY PROGUN CONSERVATIVE
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COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE. I'M DISAPPOINTED. WE HAD A CHANCE TO
STOP THIS. I SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS
AS WE DEBATED S. 254 ARGUING PRIVATELY WITH THESE COLLEAGUES
AND TRYING TO PERSUADE THEM TO HOLD THE LINE AGAINST THIS
ONSLAUGHT OF MORE GUN CONTROL. GUN SHOWS. YOU KNOW WHAT THE
GOAL IS HERE?
IT'S NOT INSTANT BACKGROUND CHECKS. IT'S THE ELIMINATION OF GUN
SHOWS. ELIMINATE THE SHOWS. DON'T ALLOW ANY GUN SHOWS. AFTER
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ALL, PUNISH THE LAW-ABIDING AMERICAN WHO COMES TO A GUN SHOW,
AS MILLIONS DO ALL ACROSS AMERICA EVERY YEAR. PUNISH THEM.
THAT'S THE EASY THING TO DO. DON'T DEAL WITH THIS. DON'T DEAL
WITH THE CRIMINAL. PUNISH THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO GUN SHOWS, THE
LAW-ABIDING AMERICAN CITIZENS. YOU SAY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT IF
SOMEBODY -- A BAD PERSON GETS
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