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IS $915,000. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST MILLIONAIRES. THEY MAKE
LMDS 1 MILLION A YEAR ON AVERAGE. AND THEY GET 42% OF THE TAX
CUT CUT. ALMOST ONE OF EVERY TWO DOLLARS WE'RE CUTTING IN
TRAKSZ GOES TO PEOPLE WHOSE AVERAGE INCOME IS CLOSE TO $1
MILLION A YEAR. HOW MANY AMERICANS WANT THAT?
MR. PRESIDENT, IF I WERE CONFRONTED WITH THAT FACT, I WOULD
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RHETORIZE, AS THEY SAY. I WOULD GIVE WHAT THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF
MIGHT CALL AS WASHINGTON RHETORIC AND SAY THAT'S FUZZY
MATHEMATICS. IT IS NOT FUZZ SDIFMT HERE IT IS, GOVERNOR BUSH.
THE TOP ONE PERCENT GET 42% OF THE TAX CUTS. THE PEOPLE WHOSE
AVERAGE INCOME IS $915,000 MAKE $46,000 BACK, THEY GET THAT
AMOUNT IN TAX CUTS. LET'S TAKE THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE. THE
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MIDDLE 20%, PEOPLE MAKING BETWEEN $25,000 AND $40,000 A YEAR.
THEY GET ABOUT 8% OF THE TAX CUTS OR $453. AND OF COURSE
LOW-INCOME PEOPLE PEOPLE, THE GOVERNOR SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO
BETTER. YEAH, $42 A YEAR BETTER. SO IT IS TRUE, AS THE GOVERNOR
SAID. EVERYONE GETS A TAX BREAK. HE WANTS TO GIVE THE MONEY TO
EVERYONE. THE TROUBLE IS HE WANTS TO GIVE MOST OF THE MONEY TO
VERY FEW, THE WEALTHIEST FEW. HE WAS RIGHT -- HE IS RIGHT. THE
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WEALTHIEST PEOPLE HAVE MOST OF THE MONEY AND THEY PAY A LOT OF
THE TAXES. THAT'S TRUE. BUT WE HAVE A POLICY CHOICE HERE, MR.
PRESIDENT. DO WE WANT THOSE WEALTHIER -- THOSE -- THE
WEALTHIEST OF PEOPLE TO GET MOST OF THE MONEY BACK?
OR DO WE WANT TO DO TARGETED TAX CUTS FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND
SPEND MORE OF THE MONEY THAN THE GOVERNOR DOES ON EDUCATION, ON
A PRESCRIPTION DRUG PLAN, ON HEALTH CARE?
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THIS IS NOT FUZZY WASHINGTON MATH. THESE ARE FACTS. AND I DON'T
BLAME GOVERNOR BUSH FOR PRUNG AWAY FROM THEM. -- AND HIDING
AWAY RHETORIC. NOW ONE FINAL POINT, VICE PRESIDENT GORE IN THE
DEBATE SAID THAT HE WANTED TARGETED TAX CUTS FOR THE MIDDLE
CLASS, AND GEORGE BUSH SAID, YOU'D NEED AN ACCOUNTANT TO FIGURE
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THIS UTE-- --THIS OUT. WELL, TELL A FAMILY WHO'S MAKING $50,000
A YEAR WHO HAS -- THEIR OLDEST CHILD WHO'S 17 AND THE HUSBAND
AND WIFE ARE UP LATE AT NIGHT WORRYING OUT HOW THE HECK ARE WE
GOING TO PAY FOR JOHNNY'S COLLEGE?
HOW THE HECK ON AN INCOME OF $50,000 A YEAR ARE WE GOING TO
COME UP WITH $10,000 A YEAR, AFTER PAYING OUR MORTGAGE AND
BUYING THE FOOD AND PAYMENTS ON THE CAR, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT?
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WELL, YOU DON'T NEED AN ACCOUNTANT WITH WHAT VICE PRESIDENT
GORE TALKS ABOUT. YOU SIMPLY NEED TO PUT ON YOUR TAX RETURN
THAT YOUR CHILD WAS GOING TO COLLEGES, THAT YOU'RE PAYING
$10,000 A YEAR, AND YOU DEDUCT THAT FROM YOUR TAXES. IT'S AS
SIMPLE AS DEDUCTING YOUR MORTGAGE INTEREST. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS
DEDUCTING YOUR HEALTH CARE COSTS. YOU DON'T NEED AN ACCOUNTANT.
NOW, I WOULD ASK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE ALL BELIEVE IN TAX
CUTS -- I DO. IS IT BETTER FOR AWFUL AMERICA TO GIVE THAT
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WEALTHIEST FAMILY FAMILY-- --IT IS BETTER FOR ALL OF AMERICA TO
GIVE THAT WEALTHIEST FAMILY IN AMERICA $42,000 A YEAR SORE IT
BETTER TO SAY TO MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES THAT WE OUGHT TO MAKE
COLLEGE TUITION TAX-DEDUCTIBLE?
A PROPOSAL THAT'S HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN THIS SENATE. THE
SENATOR FROM MAINE, OLYMPIA SNOWE, AND MYSELF, THE SENATOR FROM
INDIANA, SENATOR BAYH, AND THE SENATOR FROM OREGON, SENATOR
SMITH, TWO DEMOCRATS AND TWO REPUBLICANS, HAVE CHAMPIONED THAT.
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I LEARNED HOW MUCH PEOPLE STRUGGLED WITH THAT WHEN I RAN FOR
THE SENATE TWO YEARS AGO AND IT'S ONE OF MY PASSIONS TO GET IT
DONE. BUT YOU DON'T NEED AN ACCOUNTANT. THOSE ARE NOT FUZZY
WASHINGTON NUMBERS. YOU CAN DEDUCT -- MR. PRESIDENT --
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR HAS USED 15 MINUTES.
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MR. SCHUMER: I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I BE GIVEN AN
ADDITIONAL TWO MINUTES FROM OUR TIME.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
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MR. SCHUMER: I WOULD ASK THE MINORITY WHIP -- YOU THIS. THANK
YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IT'S NOT FUZZY MATH. IT'S PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS LAST NIGHT GOVERNOR BUSH COULDN'T ARGUE
FACTS. HE COULDN'T ARGUE THE MERITS. SO HE RAN AWAY FROM THE
ARGUMENT BY CLAIMING FUZZY NUMBERS. THE REASON I THINK THE
DEBATE WAS A GREAT SUCCESS FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT WARX AS
PEOPLE EXAMINED JUST WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE HUGE DEFICIT
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SPENDING THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE US ENGAGE IN AGAIN,
THE FACT THAT A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE TAX CUT GOES TO
THE WEALTHY, AND THE FACT THAT THE MIDDLE-INCOME TAX CUTS
PROPOSED BY THE VICE PRESIDENT ARE VERY SIMPLE AND EASY TO USE
AND DESPERATELY NEEDED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, I THINK THE VICE
PRESIDENT WILL SCORE POINTS. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK HE WILL
WIN REELECTION -- OR WIN ELECTION ON THAT BASIS, AND AMERICA
WILL FINALLY SPEND OUR SURPLUS ON THE THINGS WE NEED, RETURN
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TAXES TO THE MIDDLE CLASS, WHO NEEDS THEM MORE THAN ANYBODY
ELSE, AND OUR COUNTRY WILL CONTINUE THE PROSPERITY THAT, PRAISE
GOD, WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. MR. PRESIDENT, THESE
ARE NO FUZZY WASHINGTON NUMBERS. THESE ARE FACTS. THEY'RE FACTS
THAT SHOW THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT IS FAR MORE IN TOUCH WITH
WHAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN WANTS AND NEEDS THAN IS GOVERNOR
BUSH. I DON'T BELIEVE IN CLASS WARFARE. I DON'T BELIEVE IN -- I
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RESPECT PEOPLE WHO'VE MADE A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S THE AMERICAN
DREAM. AND I HOPE MY CHILDREN WILL. BUT WHEN YOU DO DEEP TAX
CUTS, WHO SHOULD GET IF WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE ALY. ED AMOUNT?
WHEN YOU HAVE A SURPLUS, WHY SHOULD IT BE SQUANDERED?
MR. GOVERNOR BUSH, NOT FUZZY NUMBERS; HARD, COLD FACTS THAT
HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OUT. I YIELD BACK MY TIME AND THANK
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THE PRESIDENT. MR. REID: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA.
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MR. REID: MR. PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE STATEMENT
OF THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK. NEW YORK IS A FINANCIAL CAPITAL
OF THE WORLD AND THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK, HAVING LONG
REPRESENTED THE STATE OF NEW YORK IN THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES, HAS CERTAINLY HIT THE GROUND RUNNING HERE IN
THE SENATE. WE DEPEND ON THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK ON MANY
OCCASIONS FOR FINANCIAL INFORMATION AND ADVICE DUE TO THE FACT
THAT YOU COME, I REPEAT, FROM THE FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF THE
WORLD. AND YOUR VERY VIVID DESCRIPTION OF THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT
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IN FINANCIAL TERMS DID, THE TAX SITUATION IS FROM BOTH
CANDIDATE, WAS WELCOMED AND I CONGRATULATE AND APPLAUD THE
SENATOR FROM NEW YORK FOR HIS VERY LUCID STATEMENT.
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MR. SCHUMER: I THANK MY FRIEND, THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA, WHO IS
A GREAT LEADER FOR ALL OF US, AND FOR ALWAYS GIVING WE YOUNGER
MEMBERS TIME TO MAKE OUR ARGUMENTS ON THE FLOOR IN ADDITION TO
ALL THE OTHER NICE THINGS HE DOES FOR US. THANK YOU.
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MR. REID: MR. PRESIDENT, IN THAT WE HAVE SOME TIME, I FELT IT
WAS APPROPRIATE THAT WE COME BACK AND REVISIT WHAT THE SENATOR
FROM ALASKA SAID TODAY, THE JUNIOR SENATOR FROM ALASKA HAS COME
TO THE FLOOR ON MANY OCCASIONS AND SAID, AS I'VE STATED
EARLIER, THE SAME THING. HE DOES IT WITH GREAT PASSION AND I
APPRECIATE HOW STRONGLY HE FEELS ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK THE TIME
HAS COME THAT WE DON'T LET HIS STATEMENTS GO WITHOUT GIVING THE
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FACTS ON, IN EFFECT, THE OTHER SIDE. WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE
FACTS?
LET'S TALK ABOUT PRODUCTION OF OIL IN ALASKA. MR. PRESIDENT, IN
1999, THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE CLINTON-GORE ADMINISTRATION,
OFFERED TRACTS ON NEARLY 4 MILLION ACRES OF LAND IN THE
NATIONAL PETROLEUM RESERVE IN. TO THE WEST OF PRUDHOE BAY FOR
OIL AND GAS LEASING. OIL COMPANIES WITH WINNING BIDS WILL PAY
-- AND THIS IS A STAGGERING FIGURE, MR. PRESIDENT -- BUT THIS
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IS TO SHOW THAT WE, THIS ADMINISTRATION, DOES HAVE AN ENERGY
POLICY AS WE ALL KNOW -- ALL COMPANIES WITH WINNING BIDS WILL
PAY $104 -- APPROXIMATELY $105 MILLION. ROUND OFF THE 635,000,
WE COME UP WITH $105 MILLION. A TOTAL OF 425 TRACTS AND
APPROXIMATELY 4 MILLION ACRES WERE OFFERED BY THE BUREAU OF
LAND MANAGEMENT, AND TODAY THE FIRST SUCH SALE FOR THESSESS
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SINCE 1984 WENT INTO THIS. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE
THAT THERE IS AN ENERGY POLICY, THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS AN
ENERGY POLICY. IT HAS INDICATED THIS IS THE FIRST SALE FOR THE
RESERVE SINCE 1984. SIX OIL COMPANIES SUBMITTED BIDS ON 133
TRACTS. THE OIL INDUSTRY SHOULD EXPLORE AND DEVELOP THE ALASKAN
PETROLEUM RESERVE. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. WE AND OTHER COMPANIES
REALIZE THAT AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PAYING $105 MILLION TO DO
THAT. BUT THEY SHOULD DO THAT BEFORE THERE'S EVEN A SUGGESTION
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OF OFFERING THESE LANDS TO DEVELOP. ANWR DOES NOT NEED TO BE
DEVELOPED. AND TO EVEN SUGGEST DOING IT BEFORE WE FULLY EXPLORE
THE PETROLEUM RESERVE IN ALASKA INDICATES THAT WE ARE DOING IT
FOR REASONS OTHER THAN PETROLEUM PRODUCTION. IN 1998, THE
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY RELEASED A MEAN ESTIMATE OF 2.4 MILLION
BARRELS OF ECONOMICALLY RECOVERYABLE OIL IN THE ARCTIC REFUGE
ATEDZ 18 A BRXAIL WHICH IS THE MARKET PRICE IN 1996. SUCH A
DISCOVERY WOULD NEVER MEET MORE THAN A SMALL PART OF OUR OIL
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NEEDS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. THE UNITED STATES CONSUMES ABOUT 19
BARRELS OF OIL EVERY DAY. ABOUT SEVEN BILLION BARRELS ANNUALLY.
SO USING THOSE NUMBERS FOR A COUPLE YEARS, YOU COULD DRILL AND
YOU WOULD -- IT WOULD BE GONE AND YOU WOULD DAMAGE, TO SAY THE
LIGHT, THIS BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE WORLD. THE UNITED STATES
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY INDICATES THAT THE MEAN ESTIMATE OF
ECONOMICALLY PROFFERABLE RESERVES ASSUMES AN OIL PRICE OF $18,
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AS I'VE INDICATED. NOW, WE KNOW THAT THE PRICE OF OIL IS ALMOST
DOUBLE THAT TODAY. BUT EVEN AT $20 A BARREL, THE MEAN ESTIMATE
INCREASES TO $ $P-.12 BILLION BARRELS. THIS IS FROM DR.
CARZADEL, THE ACT DIRECTOR OF THE GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. MR.
PRESIDENT, PRODUCTION OF OIL IN THE UNITED STATES PEAKED IN
1970. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THIS CHART HERE. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT
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WAS WHEN THE UNITED STATES PRODUCED ABOUT 9.6 MILLION BARRELS
OF OIFERLRY DAY. NOW PRODUCTION IN ALASKA HAS ALSO BEEN ON A
CONTINUED DECLINE SINCE 1988, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS
KHAFERMENT-- --FROM THIS CHART. IT'S NOT ON THIS CHART, I HAVE
ANOTHER ONE, MR. PRESIDENT, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT
THE PRODUCTION OF OIL IN ALASKA HAS BEEN GOING DOWNHILL SINCE
1988 WHEN IT PEAKED AT 2 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL A DAY. MR.
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PRESIDENT, DOMESTIC OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY DRILLING DECREASED
NEARLY 17% DURING 1992, THE LAST YEAR OF THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION, AND WAS AT THE LOWEST LEVEL SINCE 1942. SO, I
THINK THAT WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA,
IF HE HAS A COMPLAINT ABOUT AN ENERGY POLICY, SHOULD GO BACK TO
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. THAT'S WHEN WE BOTTOMED OUT, SO TO
SPEAK. LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT'S -- AND LET'S TALK ABOUT
WHAT'S GONE ON SINCE 1992 WHEN THIS ADMINISTRATION BEGAN A
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CONCERTED EFFORT TO INCREASE THE PRODUCTION OF OIL. UNDER THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE CLINTON-GORE ADMINISTRATION, THIS
ADMINISTRATION HAS NATURAL GAS PRODUCTION OF FEDERAL LANDS
ONSHORE AND OIL PRODUCTION OFFSHORE INCREASING. NATURAL GAS
PRODUCTION ON FEDERAL NATURALLANDS HAS INCREASED NEARLY 60%
DURING THIS ADMINISTRATION. LET ME REPEAT. NATURAL GAS
PRODUCTION ON FEDERAL ONSHORE LANDS HAS INCREASED NEARLY 60%
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SINCE 1992. OIL PRODUCTION ON FEDERAL LANDS IS DOWN, BUT THE
GAS STATISTICS BELIE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
SHUT DOWN THE PUBLIC LANDS TO OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS
-- THIS SOURCE COMES FROM TESTIMONY THAT WAS GIVEN BR BEFORE
THE ENERGY AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE IN JULY OF THIS
YEAR. THE GULF OF MEXICO HAS BECOME ONE OF THE HOTTEST PLACES
IN THE WORLD FOR EXPLORATION, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS
ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTED AND SENT US FOR DEEP WATER DEVELOPMENT
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GOING INTO EFFECT IN 1995. BETWEEN 1992 AND 1999, OIL
PRODUCTION OFFSHORE INCREASED 62%. SO IT HARDLY SEEMS TO ME
THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION WITHOUT AN ENERGY POLICY, WHEN WE
HAVE DETERMINED THAT NATURAL GAS PRODUCTION DURING THIS
ADMINISTRATION ON FEDERAL ONSHORE LANDS HAS INCREASED ABOUT 60%
AND WE'VE ALSO DETERMINED THAT BETWEEN -- THAT DURING THIS
ADMINISTRATION, OIL PRODUCTION OFFSHORE HAS INCREASED 62%.
NATURAL GAS PRODUCTION IN DEEP WATERS HAS INCREASED 80% IN JUST
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THE PAST TWO YEARS. THESE INCREASES ARE IN AREAS OF THE GULF OF
MEXICO WHERE THE UNITED STATES ACTIVELY PRODUCES OIL AND GAS.
THE DEEP WATER -- SO, MR. PRESIDENT, THE POINT I'M MAKING HERE
IS THAT WE HAVE HEARD MY FRIEND, THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA, COME
TO THIS FLOOR AND CONTINUALLY SAY WE DON'T HAVE AN ENERGY
POLICY.
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