Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", "AIRCRAFT", "TAMDAR", or "AMDAR" received at FSL on 12/10/08


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1012 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008 .UPDATE... BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THE UPDATE WAS ONGOING LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT FOR ERN MQT AND ALGER COUNTIES. MQT RADAR REVEALS FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE WIND-PARALLEL MULTIBAND LES FROM NEGAUNEE EAST INTO ALGER COUNTY. 30+ MAX DBZ RETURNS NOTED WITHIN THE MORE INTENSE BANDS PROBABLY YIELDING CLOSE TO INCH/HR ACCUMULATION RATES. FAIRLY UNIDIRECTIONAL 350-360 WIND FLOW NOTED ON VWP FROM SFC THROUGH 6KFT. 01Z TAMDAR SNDG AT KSAW SHOWING MOIST PROFILE UP THROUGH 800 MB ALTHOUGH BASE OF INVERSION IS NOTED BLO 4KFT. LOWER INVERSION HEIGHT DOESN`T APPEAR TO BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING BANDS AND PRETTY MUCH ENTIRE MOIST LYR IS LOCATED WITHIN FAVORABLE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE. FAVORABLE DGZ ALSO RESULTING IN FLUFFY 35-40/1 SNOW/WATER RATIOS. 00Z WRF-ARW CONSISTENT WITH PREV RUNS IN SHOWING LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE INCREASING OVER ERN MQT-WRN ALGER COUNTIES LATER THIS EVENING WITH DEVELOPING LAND BREEZES AND THEN BACKING FLOW FROM N TO NW WILL GRADUALLY PUSH LES BANDS OUT OF MQT COUNTY BY 08-09Z. A DOMINANT BAND WILL THEN FOCUS OVER ALGER COUNTY FROM MUNISING TO MELSTRAND FROM LATE TONIGHT INTO WED MORNING. GIVEN THE INCREASING CONVERGENCE AND CONTINUED ADDITIONAL LES ACCUMS DECIDED TO GO WITH A LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY FOR MQT COUNTY UNTIL 3 AM AND FOR ALGER COUNTY 11 AM WED. NO OTHER CHANGES MADE TO FCST. && .SYNOPSIS... WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW A POSITIVE TILT UNPHASED TROF EXTENDING FROM HUDSON BAY TO TX. IN THE SRN STREAM...ONE WEAKENING SHORTWAVE IS LIFTING NE THRU THE CNTRL/LWR LAKES REGION...ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WAS OVER OK/KS WITH A THIRD IN THE VCNTY OF SRN NM/W TX. IN THE NRN STREAM...A SHORTWAVE WAS DROPPING SE THRU MANITOBA. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. CLOSER TO HOME...IN THE WAKE OF DEPARTING -SN/DEEPER MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH SRN STREAM SHORTWAVES...LES REGIME HAS DEVELOPED OFF LAKE SUPERIOR UNDER NRLY FLOW CAA. DRY AIRMASS HEADING S (PER 12Z CWPL SOUNDING) HAS KEPT LES GENERALLY ON THE LIGHT SIDE...BUT THE FLUFF FACTOR HAS BEEN STEADILY INCREASING AS AIRMASS IN THE CONVECTIVE LAYER COOLS TO FAVORABLE TEMPS FOR DENDRITES TO GROW. AFTN TAMDAR SOUNDING SHOWED INVERSION BASED AT 850MB WITH TEMP AT INVERSION BASE OF -16C...SUPPORTING THE INCREASE IN SNOW TO WATER RATIOS THIS AFTN. LONGER FETCH AIDED BY LAKE NIPIGON MAY HAVE LED TO SOME LOCALLY HEAVIER LES IN FAR WRN UPPER MI IN THE VCNTY OF KIWD DURING THE DAY AS SUGGESTED BY VIS SATELLITE IMAGERY. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT/WED)... LES AND TEMPS ARE THE MAIN FCST ISSUES TONIGHT. SHORTWAVE OVER MANITOBA WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. WITH TRACK OVER THE AREA...BEST FORCING WILL PASS N OF HERE. IN ADDITION...SINCE LOW-LEVEL CAA IS DOMINATING...THERE IS LITTLE OR NO FORCING ACROSS THE FCST AREA. NONETHELESS...WOULD STILL EXPECT TO SEE AT LEAST A LITTLE ENHANCEMENT AS INVERSIONS SHOULD RISE A BIT WITH APPROACH OF SHORTWAVE. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE HIGH WITH FAVORABLE DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH TEMPS DOMINATING BLO THE INVERSION. SO A GOOD FLUFF FACTOR (PROBABLY AT LEAST 25 TO 1) WILL BOOST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT. BEST LES TONIGHT SHOULD TEND TO BECOME FOCUSED INTO ALGER COUNTY AND AT LEAST FAR ERN MARQUETTE COUNTY FOR A TIME. THIS AREA WILL BE FAVORED AS LAND BREEZES WILL RESULT IN STRONGER LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE DEVELOPING THERE. IN ADDITION...THAT AREA WILL BE INLINE FOR PRECONDITIONING FROM STILL OPEN LAKE NIPIGON. THE RUC13...WHICH OFTEN DOES A NICE JOB ON LAND/LAKE INTERACTIONS (BUT SOMETIMES DOES OVERDO IT)...SHOWS A MESOLOW DEVELOPING NEAR MUNISING LATE TONIGHT/WED MORNING. THE NAM AND LOCAL HIGH RES WRF-ARW ALSO HINT AT A CIRCULATION IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION...BUT IT`S MORE SO WED MORNING/EARLY AFTN IN THE COL AREA WITHIN PASSING SFC RIDGE AXIS. IN ANYCASE...IT WILL BE SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR SINCE ITS DEVELOPMENT WOULD RESTRUCTURE WIND PARALLEL BANDS DOMINATING FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT AND COULD REALLY FOCUS LOCALLY HEAVIER SNOW. FOR NOW...WILL ASSUME JUST STRENGTHENING CONVERGENCE BTWN MARQUETTE/MUNISING OVERNIGHT. HAVE PAINTED 2-5 INCH ACCUMULATIONS IN THAT AREA...BUT IT`S POSSIBLE ACCUMULATIONS COULD RISE TO ADVY CRITERIA DEPENDING ON HOW DEVELOPING DOMINANT BANDS ORGANIZE THIS EVENING. ELSEWHERE IN THE LES AREAS...FLUFFY ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT SHOULD RANGE FROM 1-3 INCHES. AWAY FROM LAKE SUPERIOR LES...EXPECT DRY WEATHER WITH TEMPS THE MAIN ISSUE. SHOULD IT CLEAR OUT...TEMPS WILL CRASH. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS WINDS IN THE CLOUD BEARING LAYER WILL RETAIN ENOUGH OF A NRLY COMPONENT THAT LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS SHOULD DOMINATE EVEN WELL INLAND AWAY FROM LES. UNDER THIS ASSUMPTION...TOOK A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO MINS...NOT GOING ANY LWR THAN AROUND 5F OVER THE INTERIOR SW. BIG TEMP BUST POTENTIAL IS THERE. LINGERING LES OFF LAKE SUPERIOR WILL END WED AS HIGH PRES RIDGE PASSES AND WINDS BECOME SRLY. ANOTHER INCH OR TWO OF ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE ACROSS ALGER COUNTY WED MORNING BEFORE LES SHIFTS OFFSHORE. IN THE AFTN...WILL NEED TO WATCH FOR THE POTENTIAL OF LES STREAMING IN OFF LAKE MICHIGAN INTO THE SE FCST AREA AS WINDS BECOME SRLY. SOME OF THE HIGHER RES MODELS SHOW MIDLAKE CONVERGENCE THAT COULD SET THE STAGE FOR A PERIOD OF DECENT LES. THIS SHOULD BE MORE AN ISSUE HEADING INTO WED NIGHT AS SRLY WINDS STRENGTHEN. OTHERWISE... ATTENTION TURNS TO NEXT SHORTWAVE HEADING SE TOWARD THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL REACH NRN MN LATE AFTN/EARLY EVENING. DECENT ISENTROPIC ASCENT REGIME AND DEEP LAYER QVECTOR CONVERGENCE AHEAD OF FEATURE SHOULD RESULT IN -SN SPREADING INTO WRN UPPER MI DURING THE AFTN. .LONG TERM (WED NIGHT THROUGH NEXT TUE)... MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS ARE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WITH CLIPPER SYSTEM WED NIGHT AND THEN MIXED PCPN SCENARIO FOR SUN/MON. WED NIGHT...CLIPPER SYSTEM INDICATED YESTERDAY TO MOVE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR IS STILL SHOWN TODAY...WITH TIMING ABOUT THE SAME. HOWEVER...THE NAM HAS SLOWED UP A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT NOW...FAVOR THE FASTER ECMWF/UKMET/GFS/LOCAL WRF-ARW WHICH BRING THE LOW FROM NRN MN AT 00Z THU TO NE LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z THU. THE NAM ONLY BRINGS IT INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. CLIPPER SHOULD BRING SOME WARM ADVECTION SNOW ACROSS THE AREA...ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CWA AND ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR...CLOSER TO THE BETTER DYNAMICS FROM THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER. SOUNDINGS ARE ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE WITH THE LIFT FROM ALL MODELS...WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE (DGZ). THE AIRMASS BELOW THE DGZ IS NOT ALL THAT COLD EITHER...WHICH SHOULD HELP REDUCE AGGREGATION. THEREFORE HAVE GONE WITH SNOW TO WATER RATIOS AROUND 20 TO 1...WHICH RESULTS IN A COUPLE INCHES OF SNOW BASED ON WELL AGREED UPON QPF FROM THE GFS/REGIONAL CANADIAN/LOCAL WRF-ARW. ANOTHER AREA OF INTEREST IS SE SCHOOLCRAFT INTO LUCE COUNTY WITH A STRONG LIKELIHOOD OF A LAKE MICHIGAN BAND IMPACTING THIS PORTION OF THE CWA. LUCKILY THE LLVL FLOW DOES NOT FAVOR A BAND STAYING IN ONE SPOT...AS THE BAND SHOULD MOVE IN AROUND 06Z THEN STARTING MOVING SLOWLY EAST AS THE FLOW GOES FROM SOUTH TO SW. NONETHELESS...AN ADVISORY LOOKS TO BE NEEDED AT LEAST FOR LUCE COUNTY. LATE IN THE NIGHT...A COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER WILL BE MOVING INTO THE WESTERN U.P.. WITH 850MB TEMPS FALLING TO -12 TO -14C ALONG THE FRONT...IT IS LIKELY THERE WILL BE A BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG IT. THEREFORE...POP GRIDS AFTER 06Z DENOTE LIKELY WORDING IN THE WEST AS WELL. LOW TEMPERATURES GENERALLY A BLEND OF MET/MAV GUIDANCE...GIVEN THAT PLENTY OF CLOUDS AND WIND WILL BE AROUND. THU THROUGH FRI...MUCH OF THIS PERIOD IS DOMINATED BY LAKE EFFECT... AS AN UPPER TROUGH SETTLES IN OVER THE GREAT LAKES. THE MAIN PORTION OF THIS UPPER TROUGH COMES DOWN OUT OF NORTHWEST TERRITORIES. 850MB TEMPS DROP DOWN TO -20 TO -22C BY 12Z FRI. THEREFORE HIGHS AND LOWS WILL BE COLD DURING THIS PERIOD...ESPECIALLY WITH LOWS ON THU NIGHT. STAYED TOWARDS THE LOW END OF GUIDANCE FOR THU NIGHT...BUT LUCKILY THERE SHOULD BE SOME CLOUDS AND WIND TO PREVENT TEMPS FROM PLUMMETING TOO MUCH. REGARDING THE LAKE EFFECT...HAVE INCREASED POPS TO LIKELY FOR THE WEST AND AREAS EAST OF MARQUETTE WITH A GENERAL NW FLOW EXPECTED. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE FAIRLY HIGH ON THU... 20 TO 1 OR SO. AS THE COLD AIR COMES IN...THE RATIOS WILL DROP SOME OVER THE WEST AS A PORTION OF THE DGZ FALLS BELOW THE CLOUD BASE. HOWEVER...THE LONGER FETCH OF WARMER AIR OFF EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD THE DGZ IN THE CLOUD...SO HAVE INCREASED RATIOS IN THE EASTERN CWA. RATIOS WILL STABILIZE AGAIN ON FRI AROUND 20 TO 1 AS DAYTIME HEATING HELPS WARM UP THE LOW LEVELS. AMOUNT WISE OVER THIS TIME PERIOD...IT APPEARS MOST OF IT SHOULD BE LIGHT...WITH TOTALS PERHAPS UP TO 6 INCHES IN THE EASTERN CWA. OF COURSE THERE IS ALWAYS POTENTIAL FOR A DOMINANT BAND TO HELP INCREASE AMOUNTS MORE...WHICH DEFINITELY CANNOT BE RULED OUT FOR ALGER COUNTY AS THE LAND BREEZE KICKS IN OFF OF MARQUETTE COUNTY. FRI NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY...MODELS AGREE AGAIN WELL ON THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN...TRANSITIONING TO A WESTERN TROUGH AND EAST COAST RIDGE BY LATE SUN...THEN REMAINING THAT WAY THROUGH AT LEAST MONDAY AND LIKELY INTO TUESDAY. HOWEVER...THERE REMAINS A MAJOR QUESTION ON WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE SAT NIGHT TO MON TIME FRAME. THE 06Z GFS AND 00Z CANADIAN NOW LOOK LIKE THE 08/00Z ECMWF RUN BRINGING A SFC LOW ACROSS THE CWA ON SUN...WITH COLD AIR FLOWING IN BEHIND IT FOR MON. ON THE OTHER HAND...THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET ARE SLOWER AND REMAIN FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THE 08/12Z ECMWF IN SHOWING THE LOW CROSSING MON MORNING. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SYSTEM IS THAT NO MATTER WHICH TIME FRAME IS PREFERRED FOR IT MOVE THROUGH...850MB TEMPS WARM UP ENOUGH TO TURN PCPN AT A MINIMUM TO SLEET/FREEZING RAIN AND LIKELY RAIN. IT APPEARS THE DIFFERENCE BTWN THE FASTER AND SLOWER RUNS IS RELATED TO A NRN STREAM SHRTWV TROUGH CROSSING CENTRAL CANADA LATE SAT...AND WHERE THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE SFC LOW IS LOCATED. THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET HAVE THE SHRTWV IN EASTERN IDAHO AT 00Z SUN COMPARED TO THE 06Z GFS WHICH IS IN THE WRN DAKOTAS...CLOSER TO BEING PICKED UP BY THE NRN STREAM SHRTWV. GIVEN THE FLUCTUATION SEEN IN THE GFS DURING THE PAST FOUR RUNS AND THAT PRACTICALLY ALL OF THE 00Z GFS ENSEMBLES AGREE WITH THE 00Z ECMWF...HAVE DECIDED TO LEAN TOWARDS THE ECMWF FOR THE FORECAST WITH THIS SYSTEM. OUTSIDE OF THIS SYSTEM...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT. SOME OF THE DETAILS. FOR FRI NIGHT...INCREASING WARM ADVECTION IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH ON FRI AND AHEAD OF A WEAK SHRTWV MOVING THROUGH THE FLOW SHOULD BRING SOME LIGHT SNOW TO THE AREA. BULK OF THE SNOW APPEARS RIGHT NOW TO STAY TO THE NORTH...THOUGH...OVER NRN LAKE SUPERIOR. THERE AGAIN COULD BE A BAND OFF LAKE MICHIGAN...BUT NOW THE WINDS MIGHT BE TOO SW TO ALLOW FOR THE BAND TO IMPACT THE CWA. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES DURING THE DAY SAT WITH YET ANOTHER SHRTWV INDICATED TO MOVE THROUGH THE FLOW. THIS ADVECTION LOOKS STRONGER...WITH 850MB WINDS REACHING 45-50 KT. IN ADDITION...MORE MOISTURE IS TAPPED OUT OF THE GULF OF MEXICO...SO MORE PCPN IS POSSIBLE. 850MB TEMPS ONLY RISE TO -2 TO -4C...SO RIGHT NOW IT IS ASSUMED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OUT OF THE WESTERN U.S. LIFTS TOWARDS UPPER MI. PCPN SAT NIGHT MAY TURN INTO A MIX OF RAIN/SNOW AS 850MB TEMPS CONTINUE TO WARM...THEN CHANGE MOSTLY TO RAIN OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL AND EAST ON SUN. 00Z ECMWF ACTUALLY HAS READINGS OF 4-6C OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL BY 00Z MON. GIVEN THESE READINGS...CONCERN ACTUALLY STARTS TO EXIST OF THUNDER. WILL NOT INCLUDE THUNDER AT THE MOMENT...SINCE SHOWALTER INDICES ARE 0-2C JUST TO OUR SOUTH. MUCH OF UPPER MI MAY END UP DEALING WITH ONLY RAIN SUN NIGHT AS THE ENTIRE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA HAS 850MB TEMPS OF 2-6C BY 12Z MON PER THE 00Z ECMWF RUN. NEW 12Z ECMWF RUN IS A BIT COLDER NOW. THEREFORE...WILL STILL KEEP A RAIN/SNOW MIX GOING. COLD FRONT COMES THROUGH MON...WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS QUITE STRONG AS 850MB TEMPS PLUMMET TO -16C OVER WESTERN SUPERIOR BY 00Z TUE...SO FALLING TEMPS ON MON ARE PLANNED. FURTHER COOLING IS EXPECTED MON NIGHT AND TUE AS A PORTION OF THE WESTERN UPPER TROUGH MOVES THROUGH UPPER MI. WIND FLOW GOES FROM WEST TO NORTH...BUT NOT MUCH MOISTURE IS PRESENT AS A CANADIAN HIGH BUILDS IN AT THE SFC...SO ONLY LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED. FUTURE SHIFTS WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE SYSTEM FOR THIS WEEKEND. HAVE DECLINED TO MENTION FZRA OR SLEET BECAUSE IT IS SO FAR OUT AND THOSE DETAILS CAN CHANGE GREATLY. NONETHELESS...EACH ONE IS POSSIBLE. 12Z CYCLE UPDATE...THE 12Z GFS ENSEMBLES SHOW MUCH MORE SPREAD...WITH HALF OF THEM LOOKING MORE LIKE THE 00Z ECMWF/CANADIAN AND THE OTHER HALF LIKE THE 06Z/12Z GFS. THE 12Z CANADIAN CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE ITS PREDECESSOR...AS DOES THE NEW 12Z ECMWF...SO UNCERTAINTY STILL REMAINS. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 00Z TAF ISSUANCE)... AS THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY BACKS FROM N TO NW LATER THIS EVENING WITH THE APPROACH OF A HIGH PRES RIDGE FROM THE W...-SHSN SHOULD DIMINISH TO FLURRIES AT KCMX AND PROBABLY END AT KSAW. HOWEVER...LOOK FOR MVFR CIGS TO PERSIST AT KSAW UNTIL LATER WED MORNING WHEN WINDS BACK FURTHER TO THE W OR SW...RESULTING IN BETTER DOWNSLOPING. AT KCMX...WINDS SHOULD REMAIN FAVORABLE FOR MAINTAIN MVFR CIGS TONIGHT THROUGH WED. EXPECT WARM ADVECTION SNOW TO SPREAD INTO AREA LATE WED AHEAD OF NEXT CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVING THROUGH THE NRN PLAINS. IFR VSBYS IN SNOW WILL REACH KCMX BY 21Z WITH MVFR CONDITIONS REACHING KSAW BY 23Z. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRES RIDGE DRIFTING E AND REACHING LAKE SUPERIOR WED MORNING WILL RESULT IN A STEADY DIMINISHING OF WINDS FROM W TO E TONIGHT THRU WED MORNING. A PERIOD OF VARIABLE WINDS IN THE 5-15KT RANGE SHOULD OCCUR AS THE RIDGE PASSES. SRLY WINDS WILL THEN STRENGTHEN FROM W TO E WED AFTN INTO THE EVENING AHEAD OF APPROACHING LOW PRES. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER NRN MN WED EVENING WILL SHIFT EAST ACROSS NRN LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT INTO THU MORNING. SOUTH TO SW WINDS SHOULD APPROACH 30 KT AHEAD OF THE LOW...THEN SHIFT WEST TO NW AT ABOUT THE SAME SPEED BEHIND IT FOR THU. LOOK FOR WINDS TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH TO EVENTUALLY BELOW 20 KT BY EARLY FRI AFTN AS A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE CROSSES LAKE SUPERIOR. AS THE HIGH SHIFTS EAST FRI NIGHT...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE AGAIN...REACHING UP TO 30 KT BY SAT MORNING. FURTHER INCREASING IS EXPECTED ON SAT AS A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH SETS UP OVER FAR WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH GALES UP TO 35 KT ON EASTERN SUPERIOR POSSIBLE LATE SAT. THIS TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST INTO CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR ON SUN AND BECOME STATIONARY. WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO TURN NE BEHIND THE TROUGH WITH SPEEDS TO 30 KT. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 AM EST WEDNESDAY FOR MIZ005. LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM EST WEDNESDAY FOR MIZ006. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...VOSS SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...ROLFSON LONG TERM...AJ AVIATION...JV MARINE...ROLFSON/AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
745 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008 LATEST UPDATE...SYNOPSIS AND SHORT TERM... .SYNOPSIS...(745 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL SLIDE SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE AREA THIS EVENING...CHANGING ANY MIXED PRECIPITATION OVER TO SNOW. ANOTHER ONE TO THREE INCHES OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE THIS EVENING NEAR AND SOUTHEAST OF A LINE FROM MUSKEGON TO BIG RAPIDS AND MT. PLEASANT. AS COLDER AIR FILTERS INTO THE REGION INTO WEDNESDAY SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE TOWARD THE COAST...BUT ANY ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE LIGHT. ANOTHER SYSTEM WILL TRAVERSE THE AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY BRINGING SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN ANOTHER CHANCE FOR SNOW. ANY ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW WOULD BE LIGHT. A WARM UP IS EXPECTED INTO THE WEEKEND...WITH HIGHS PUSHING TOWARD 40 DEGREES. && .SHORT TERM...(745 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) (TONIGHT) BASED ON RGNL RADAR TRENDS/SFC OBS WE HAVE DECIDED TO ISSUE A WINTER WX ADVISORY FOR OUR SOUTHERN CWFA UNTIL 08Z. RADAR TRENDS SHOW CONVECTIVE ELEMENTS IN PCPN IMPACING OUR SOUTHERN CWFA CONCURRENT WITH FALLING TEMPS. IN FACT A LAPS SOUNDING TAKEN AT JXN SHOWS PCPN SHOULD SOON TRANSITION TO SNOW. WE ANTICIPATE HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HRS ACROSS THIS AREA. WE WILL ALSO BE EXTENDING THE REMAINDER OF OUR HEADLINES THROUGH 06Z. && .LONG TERM...(440 AM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) (WEDNESDAY THROUGH TUESDAY) THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM THAT/S CAUSED THE RAIN/SNOW TODAY AND LAST NIGHT WILL BE MOVING AWAY FROM THE CWA WEDNESDAY. THERE ISN/T A BIG BLAST OF COLD AIR BEHIND THIS SYSTEM SO WE THINK THAT LAKE EFFECT POTENTIAL IS MINIMAL. THAT SAID...H8 TEMPS WILL BRIEFLY FALL TO AROUND -11C EARLY WEDNESDAY. WE/LL KEEP POP IN OVER THE LAKE SHORE BUT DIMINISH THROUGH THE DAY. ANOTHER CLIPPER WILL MOVE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT/THURSDAY. SOME LIGHT SNOW IS POSSIBLE WITH THIS SYSTEM ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE NRN CWA BUT THE MAIN FORCING WITH THE LOW IS NORTH OF THE CWA. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH BEHIND THE SYSTEM MID DAY THURSDAY. A LITTLE BETTER SHOT OF COLD AIR IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM. POPS WILL BE A BIT HIGHER...BUT DON/T WANT TO GO ABOVE CHC DUE TO LIMITED MOISTURE. BUFKIT RH PROFILES SHOWS MOISTURE ONLY CLIMBING TO AROUND 4-5K FEET. THAT WON/T SUPPORT MUCH LAKE SHSN. PCPN WITH THAT SYSTEM WILL END LATE FRIDAY. A WARM FRONT WILL MOVE BACK THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT AND WARMER AIR WILL BE MOVING IN FOR THE WEEKEND. A CLIPPER MOVING SOUTHEAST WILL DEVELOP A STRONG SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF IT. SATURDAY COULD BE BREEZY. TEMPS WILL LIKELY CLIMB INTO THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. A SECONDARY LOW DEVELOPING ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE FRONT WILL PRODUCE SOME PCPN SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. AT THIS POINT...THERMAL PROFILES SUPPORT MIXED RAIN AND SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT AND RAIN SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. ECMWF AND GFS DIFFER A BIT ON TIMING THE COLD FRONT THROUGH THE REGION. THE GFS BRINGS THE FRONT THROUGH MONDAY AROUND 12Z AND THE ECMWF 12 HRS LATER. WE/LL SPLIT THE MIDDLE AT THIS POINT AND RUN WITH MOSTLY A RAIN/SNOW MIX. MODELS KEEP THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY OVER THE CWA THROUGH TUESDAY WHICH WILL LIKELY MEAN A HIGHER CHC OF RAIN ACROSS THE SOUTH AND SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN CWA. && .MARINE...(400 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) WINDS ARE INCREASING OUT OF THE NORTH ON LAKE MICHIGAN AS THE FRONT SLIDES SOUTH. WINDS CURRENTLY ARE GUSTING 22 KNOTS AT BIG SABLE POINT. EXPECTING WINDS TO PEAK THIS EVENING AROUND 30 KNOTS...WHICH WILL PUSH WAVES TO 7 TO 10 FEET. WAVES WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE INTO WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE AREA. && .AVIATION...(700 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) AS COLDER AIR MOVES IN FROM THE NORTH...THE SOUTHERN TAF SITES KJXN KBTL KAZO AND KLAN WILL TRANSITION TO SNOW. THE SNOW WILL LAST FOR SEVERAL HOURS AT ALL TAF SITES BEFORE TAPERING OFF AROUND MIDNIGHT. CONDITIONS SHOULD REMAIN MAINLY IFR FOR ALL TAF SITES WITH SOME TEMPO LIFR WITH AN IMPROVING TREND FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH 06Z TO MVFR. KJXN SHOULD BE THE LAST TO IMPROVE. WHILE SOME FZRA WAS SEEN AT KLAN...TAMDAR DATA AND LAPS SOUNDINGS SUGGESTS IT WILL BE VERY BRIEF WITH THE TRANSITION TO SNOW TO OCCUR RATHER RAPIDLY. AS DRIER AIR WORKS ITS WAY DOWN FROM THE NORTH WEDNESDAY MORNING CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO GO TO VFR. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR THE MVFR CONDITIONS TO LINGER THROUGH WEDNESDAY...WHICH WE WILL NEED TO MONITOR. && .HYDROLOGY...(400 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) PRECIPITATION TOTALS HAVE NOT BEEN HEAVY ENOUGH TO AFFECT RIVER LEVELS...SO NO HYDRO ISSUES ARE ANTICIPATED IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS. JACKSON HAS SEEN A RISE IN RIVER LEVELS...BUT IS STILL WELL WITHIN BANK. SCOTTVILLE IS SHOWING A RISE AS WELL...WHICH IS THE RESULT OF SOME ICE IN THE RIVER. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MUSKEGON... MONTCALM AND GRATIOT COUNTIES NORTHWARD THROUGH 06Z WED. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR OTTAWA... KENT... IONIA AND CLINTON COUNTIES THROUGH 06Z WED. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY GOING INTO EFFECT THROUGH 08Z WED FOR OUR SOUTHERN TWO TIERS OF COUNTIES. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ST. JOSEPH TO MANISTEE THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. && $$ SYNOPSIS: DUKE/LAURENS SHORT TERM: LAURENS LONG TERM: 93 MARINE: DUKE AVIATION: MJS HYDROLOGY: DUKE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
728 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008 UPDATED FOR 00Z AVIATION DISCUSSION .SYNOPSIS... WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW A POSITIVE TILT UNPHASED TROF EXTENDING FROM HUDSON BAY TO TX. IN THE SRN STREAM...ONE WEAKENING SHORTWAVE IS LIFTING NE THRU THE CNTRL/LWR LAKES REGION...ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WAS OVER OK/KS WITH A THIRD IN THE VCNTY OF SRN NM/W TX. IN THE NRN STREAM...A SHORTWAVE WAS DROPPING SE THRU MANITOBA. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. CLOSER TO HOME...IN THE WAKE OF DEPARTING -SN/DEEPER MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH SRN STREAM SHORTWAVES...LES REGIME HAS DEVELOPED OFF LAKE SUPERIOR UNDER NRLY FLOW CAA. DRY AIRMASS HEADING S (PER 12Z CWPL SOUNDING) HAS KEPT LES GENERALLY ON THE LIGHT SIDE...BUT THE FLUFF FACTOR HAS BEEN STEADILY INCREASING AS AIRMASS IN THE CONVECTIVE LAYER COOLS TO FAVORABLE TEMPS FOR DENDRITES TO GROW. AFTN TAMDAR SOUNDING SHOWED INVERSION BASED AT 850MB WITH TEMP AT INVERSION BASE OF -16C...SUPPORTING THE INCREASE IN SNOW TO WATER RATIOS THIS AFTN. LONGER FETCH AIDED BY LAKE NIPIGON MAY HAVE LED TO SOME LOCALLY HEAVIER LES IN FAR WRN UPPER MI IN THE VCNTY OF KIWD DURING THE DAY AS SUGGESTED BY VIS SATELLITE IMAGERY. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT/WED)... LES AND TEMPS ARE THE MAIN FCST ISSUES TONIGHT. SHORTWAVE OVER MANITOBA WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. WITH TRACK OVER THE AREA...BEST FORCING WILL PASS N OF HERE. IN ADDITION...SINCE LOW-LEVEL CAA IS DOMINATING...THERE IS LITTLE OR NO FORCING ACROSS THE FCST AREA. NONETHELESS...WOULD STILL EXPECT TO SEE AT LEAST A LITTLE ENHANCEMENT AS INVERSIONS SHOULD RISE A BIT WITH APPROACH OF SHORTWAVE. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE HIGH WITH FAVORABLE DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH TEMPS DOMINATING BLO THE INVERSION. SO A GOOD FLUFF FACTOR (PROBABLY AT LEAST 25 TO 1) WILL BOOST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT. BEST LES TONIGHT SHOULD TEND TO BECOME FOCUSED INTO ALGER COUNTY AND AT LEAST FAR ERN MARQUETTE COUNTY FOR A TIME. THIS AREA WILL BE FAVORED AS LAND BREEZES WILL RESULT IN STRONGER LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE DEVELOPING THERE. IN ADDITION...THAT AREA WILL BE INLINE FOR PRECONDITIONING FROM STILL OPEN LAKE NIPIGON. THE RUC13...WHICH OFTEN DOES A NICE JOB ON LAND/LAKE INTERACTIONS (BUT SOMETIMES DOES OVERDO IT)...SHOWS A MESOLOW DEVELOPING NEAR MUNISING LATE TONIGHT/WED MORNING. THE NAM AND LOCAL HIGH RES WRF-ARW ALSO HINT AT A CIRCULATION IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION...BUT IT`S MORE SO WED MORNING/EARLY AFTN IN THE COL AREA WITHIN PASSING SFC RIDGE AXIS. IN ANYCASE...IT WILL BE SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR SINCE ITS DEVELOPMENT WOULD RESTRUCTURE WIND PARALLEL BANDS DOMINATING FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT AND COULD REALLY FOCUS LOCALLY HEAVIER SNOW. FOR NOW...WILL ASSUME JUST STRENGTHENING CONVERGENCE BTWN MARQUETTE/MUNISING OVERNIGHT. HAVE PAINTED 2-5 INCH ACCUMULATIONS IN THAT AREA...BUT IT`S POSSIBLE ACCUMULATIONS COULD RISE TO ADVY CRITERIA DEPENDING ON HOW DEVELOPING DOMINANT BANDS ORGANIZE THIS EVENING. ELSEWHERE IN THE LES AREAS...FLUFFY ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT SHOULD RANGE FROM 1-3 INCHES. AWAY FROM LAKE SUPERIOR LES...EXPECT DRY WEATHER WITH TEMPS THE MAIN ISSUE. SHOULD IT CLEAR OUT...TEMPS WILL CRASH. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS WINDS IN THE CLOUD BEARING LAYER WILL RETAIN ENOUGH OF A NRLY COMPONENT THAT LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS SHOULD DOMINATE EVEN WELL INLAND AWAY FROM LES. UNDER THIS ASSUMPTION...TOOK A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO MINS...NOT GOING ANY LWR THAN AROUND 5F OVER THE INTERIOR SW. BIG TEMP BUST POTENTIAL IS THERE. LINGERING LES OFF LAKE SUPERIOR WILL END WED AS HIGH PRES RIDGE PASSES AND WINDS BECOME SRLY. ANOTHER INCH OR TWO OF ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE ACROSS ALGER COUNTY WED MORNING BEFORE LES SHIFTS OFFSHORE. IN THE AFTN...WILL NEED TO WATCH FOR THE POTENTIAL OF LES STREAMING IN OFF LAKE MICHIGAN INTO THE SE FCST AREA AS WINDS BECOME SRLY. SOME OF THE HIGHER RES MODELS SHOW MIDLAKE CONVERGENCE THAT COULD SET THE STAGE FOR A PERIOD OF DECENT LES. THIS SHOULD BE MORE AN ISSUE HEADING INTO WED NIGHT AS SRLY WINDS STRENGTHEN. OTHERWISE... ATTENTION TURNS TO NEXT SHORTWAVE HEADING SE TOWARD THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL REACH NRN MN LATE AFTN/EARLY EVENING. DECENT ISENTROPIC ASCENT REGIME AND DEEP LAYER QVECTOR CONVERGENCE AHEAD OF FEATURE SHOULD RESULT IN -SN SPREADING INTO WRN UPPER MI DURING THE AFTN. .LONG TERM (WED NIGHT THROUGH NEXT TUE)... MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS ARE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WITH CLIPPER SYSTEM WED NIGHT AND THEN MIXED PCPN SCENARIO FOR SUN/MON. WED NIGHT...CLIPPER SYSTEM INDICATED YESTERDAY TO MOVE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR IS STILL SHOWN TODAY...WITH TIMING ABOUT THE SAME. HOWEVER...THE NAM HAS SLOWED UP A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT NOW...FAVOR THE FASTER ECMWF/UKMET/GFS/LOCAL WRF-ARW WHICH BRING THE LOW FROM NRN MN AT 00Z THU TO NE LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z THU. THE NAM ONLY BRINGS IT INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. CLIPPER SHOULD BRING SOME WARM ADVECTION SNOW ACROSS THE AREA...ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CWA AND ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR...CLOSER TO THE BETTER DYNAMICS FROM THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER. SOUNDINGS ARE ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE WITH THE LIFT FROM ALL MODELS...WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE (DGZ). THE AIRMASS BELOW THE DGZ IS NOT ALL THAT COLD EITHER...WHICH SHOULD HELP REDUCE AGGREGATION. THEREFORE HAVE GONE WITH SNOW TO WATER RATIOS AROUND 20 TO 1...WHICH RESULTS IN A COUPLE INCHES OF SNOW BASED ON WELL AGREED UPON QPF FROM THE GFS/REGIONAL CANADIAN/LOCAL WRF-ARW. ANOTHER AREA OF INTEREST IS SE SCHOOLCRAFT INTO LUCE COUNTY WITH A STRONG LIKELIHOOD OF A LAKE MICHIGAN BAND IMPACTING THIS PORTION OF THE CWA. LUCKILY THE LLVL FLOW DOES NOT FAVOR A BAND STAYING IN ONE SPOT...AS THE BAND SHOULD MOVE IN AROUND 06Z THEN STARTING MOVING SLOWLY EAST AS THE FLOW GOES FROM SOUTH TO SW. NONETHELESS...AN ADVISORY LOOKS TO BE NEEDED AT LEAST FOR LUCE COUNTY. LATE IN THE NIGHT...A COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER WILL BE MOVING INTO THE WESTERN U.P.. WITH 850MB TEMPS FALLING TO -12 TO -14C ALONG THE FRONT...IT IS LIKELY THERE WILL BE A BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG IT. THEREFORE...POP GRIDS AFTER 06Z DENOTE LIKELY WORDING IN THE WEST AS WELL. LOW TEMPERATURES GENERALLY A BLEND OF MET/MAV GUIDANCE...GIVEN THAT PLENTY OF CLOUDS AND WIND WILL BE AROUND. THU THROUGH FRI...MUCH OF THIS PERIOD IS DOMINATED BY LAKE EFFECT... AS AN UPPER TROUGH SETTLES IN OVER THE GREAT LAKES. THE MAIN PORTION OF THIS UPPER TROUGH COMES DOWN OUT OF NORTHWEST TERRITORIES. 850MB TEMPS DROP DOWN TO -20 TO -22C BY 12Z FRI. THEREFORE HIGHS AND LOWS WILL BE COLD DURING THIS PERIOD...ESPECIALLY WITH LOWS ON THU NIGHT. STAYED TOWARDS THE LOW END OF GUIDANCE FOR THU NIGHT...BUT LUCKILY THERE SHOULD BE SOME CLOUDS AND WIND TO PREVENT TEMPS FROM PLUMMETING TOO MUCH. REGARDING THE LAKE EFFECT...HAVE INCREASED POPS TO LIKELY FOR THE WEST AND AREAS EAST OF MARQUETTE WITH A GENERAL NW FLOW EXPECTED. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE FAIRLY HIGH ON THU... 20 TO 1 OR SO. AS THE COLD AIR COMES IN...THE RATIOS WILL DROP SOME OVER THE WEST AS A PORTION OF THE DGZ FALLS BELOW THE CLOUD BASE. HOWEVER...THE LONGER FETCH OF WARMER AIR OFF EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD THE DGZ IN THE CLOUD...SO HAVE INCREASED RATIOS IN THE EASTERN CWA. RATIOS WILL STABILIZE AGAIN ON FRI AROUND 20 TO 1 AS DAYTIME HEATING HELPS WARM UP THE LOW LEVELS. AMOUNT WISE OVER THIS TIME PERIOD...IT APPEARS MOST OF IT SHOULD BE LIGHT...WITH TOTALS PERHAPS UP TO 6 INCHES IN THE EASTERN CWA. OF COURSE THERE IS ALWAYS POTENTIAL FOR A DOMINANT BAND TO HELP INCREASE AMOUNTS MORE...WHICH DEFINITELY CANNOT BE RULED OUT FOR ALGER COUNTY AS THE LAND BREEZE KICKS IN OFF OF MARQUETTE COUNTY. FRI NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY...MODELS AGREE AGAIN WELL ON THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN...TRANSITIONING TO A WESTERN TROUGH AND EAST COAST RIDGE BY LATE SUN...THEN REMAINING THAT WAY THROUGH AT LEAST MONDAY AND LIKELY INTO TUESDAY. HOWEVER...THERE REMAINS A MAJOR QUESTION ON WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE SAT NIGHT TO MON TIME FRAME. THE 06Z GFS AND 00Z CANADIAN NOW LOOK LIKE THE 08/00Z ECMWF RUN BRINGING A SFC LOW ACROSS THE CWA ON SUN...WITH COLD AIR FLOWING IN BEHIND IT FOR MON. ON THE OTHER HAND...THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET ARE SLOWER AND REMAIN FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THE 08/12Z ECMWF IN SHOWING THE LOW CROSSING MON MORNING. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SYSTEM IS THAT NO MATTER WHICH TIME FRAME IS PREFERRED FOR IT MOVE THROUGH...850MB TEMPS WARM UP ENOUGH TO TURN PCPN AT A MINIMUM TO SLEET/FREEZING RAIN AND LIKELY RAIN. IT APPEARS THE DIFFERENCE BTWN THE FASTER AND SLOWER RUNS IS RELATED TO A NRN STREAM SHRTWV TROUGH CROSSING CENTRAL CANADA LATE SAT...AND WHERE THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE SFC LOW IS LOCATED. THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET HAVE THE SHRTWV IN EASTERN IDAHO AT 00Z SUN COMPARED TO THE 06Z GFS WHICH IS IN THE WRN DAKOTAS...CLOSER TO BEING PICKED UP BY THE NRN STREAM SHRTWV. GIVEN THE FLUCTUATION SEEN IN THE GFS DURING THE PAST FOUR RUNS AND THAT PRACTICALLY ALL OF THE 00Z GFS ENSEMBLES AGREE WITH THE 00Z ECMWF...HAVE DECIDED TO LEAN TOWARDS THE ECMWF FOR THE FORECAST WITH THIS SYSTEM. OUTSIDE OF THIS SYSTEM...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT. SOME OF THE DETAILS. FOR FRI NIGHT...INCREASING WARM ADVECTION IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH ON FRI AND AHEAD OF A WEAK SHRTWV MOVING THROUGH THE FLOW SHOULD BRING SOME LIGHT SNOW TO THE AREA. BULK OF THE SNOW APPEARS RIGHT NOW TO STAY TO THE NORTH...THOUGH...OVER NRN LAKE SUPERIOR. THERE AGAIN COULD BE A BAND OFF LAKE MICHIGAN...BUT NOW THE WINDS MIGHT BE TOO SW TO ALLOW FOR THE BAND TO IMPACT THE CWA. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES DURING THE DAY SAT WITH YET ANOTHER SHRTWV INDICATED TO MOVE THROUGH THE FLOW. THIS ADVECTION LOOKS STRONGER...WITH 850MB WINDS REACHING 45-50 KT. IN ADDITION...MORE MOISTURE IS TAPPED OUT OF THE GULF OF MEXICO...SO MORE PCPN IS POSSIBLE. 850MB TEMPS ONLY RISE TO -2 TO -4C...SO RIGHT NOW IT IS ASSUMED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OUT OF THE WESTERN U.S. LIFTS TOWARDS UPPER MI. PCPN SAT NIGHT MAY TURN INTO A MIX OF RAIN/SNOW AS 850MB TEMPS CONTINUE TO WARM...THEN CHANGE MOSTLY TO RAIN OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL AND EAST ON SUN. 00Z ECMWF ACTUALLY HAS READINGS OF 4-6C OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL BY 00Z MON. GIVEN THESE READINGS...CONCERN ACTUALLY STARTS TO EXIST OF THUNDER. WILL NOT INCLUDE THUNDER AT THE MOMENT...SINCE SHOWALTER INDICES ARE 0-2C JUST TO OUR SOUTH. MUCH OF UPPER MI MAY END UP DEALING WITH ONLY RAIN SUN NIGHT AS THE ENTIRE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA HAS 850MB TEMPS OF 2-6C BY 12Z MON PER THE 00Z ECMWF RUN. NEW 12Z ECMWF RUN IS A BIT COLDER NOW. THEREFORE...WILL STILL KEEP A RAIN/SNOW MIX GOING. COLD FRONT COMES THROUGH MON...WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS QUITE STRONG AS 850MB TEMPS PLUMMET TO -16C OVER WESTERN SUPERIOR BY 00Z TUE...SO FALLING TEMPS ON MON ARE PLANNED. FURTHER COOLING IS EXPECTED MON NIGHT AND TUE AS A PORTION OF THE WESTERN UPPER TROUGH MOVES THROUGH UPPER MI. WIND FLOW GOES FROM WEST TO NORTH...BUT NOT MUCH MOISTURE IS PRESENT AS A CANADIAN HIGH BUILDS IN AT THE SFC...SO ONLY LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED. FUTURE SHIFTS WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE SYSTEM FOR THIS WEEKEND. HAVE DECLINED TO MENTION FZRA OR SLEET BECAUSE IT IS SO FAR OUT AND THOSE DETAILS CAN CHANGE GREATLY. NONETHELESS...EACH ONE IS POSSIBLE. 12Z CYCLE UPDATE...THE 12Z GFS ENSEMBLES SHOW MUCH MORE SPREAD...WITH HALF OF THEM LOOKING MORE LIKE THE 00Z ECMWF/CANADIAN AND THE OTHER HALF LIKE THE 06Z/12Z GFS. THE 12Z CANADIAN CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE ITS PREDECESSOR...AS DOES THE NEW 12Z ECMWF...SO UNCERTAINTY STILL REMAINS. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 00Z TAF ISSUANCE)... AS THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY BACKS FROM N TO NW LATER THIS EVENING WITH THE APPROACH OF A HIGH PRES RIDGE FROM THE W...-SHSN SHOULD DIMINISH TO FLURRIES AT KCMX AND PROBABLY END AT KSAW. HOWEVER...LOOK FOR MVFR CIGS TO PERSIST AT KSAW UNTIL LATER WED MORNING WHEN WINDS BACK FURTHER TO THE W OR SW...RESULTING IN BETTER DOWNSLOPING. AT KCMX...WINDS SHOULD REMAIN FAVORABLE FOR MAINTAIN MVFR CIGS TONIGHT THROUGH WED. EXPECT WARM ADVECTION SNOW TO SPREAD INTO AREA LATE WED AHEAD OF NEXT CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVING THROUGH THE NRN PLAINS. IFR VSBYS IN SNOW WILL REACH KCMX BY 21Z WITH MVFR CONDITIONS REACHING KSAW BY 23Z. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRES RIDGE DRIFTING E AND REACHING LAKE SUPERIOR WED MORNING WILL RESULT IN A STEADY DIMINISHING OF WINDS FROM W TO E TONIGHT THRU WED MORNING. A PERIOD OF VARIABLE WINDS IN THE 5-15KT RANGE SHOULD OCCUR AS THE RIDGE PASSES. SRLY WINDS WILL THEN STRENGTHEN FROM W TO E WED AFTN INTO THE EVENING AHEAD OF APPROACHING LOW PRES. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER NRN MN WED EVENING WILL SHIFT EAST ACROSS NRN LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT INTO THU MORNING. SOUTH TO SW WINDS SHOULD APPROACH 30 KT AHEAD OF THE LOW...THEN SHIFT WEST TO NW AT ABOUT THE SAME SPEED BEHIND IT FOR THU. LOOK FOR WINDS TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH TO EVENTUALLY BELOW 20 KT BY EARLY FRI AFTN AS A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE CROSSES LAKE SUPERIOR. AS THE HIGH SHIFTS EAST FRI NIGHT...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE AGAIN...REACHING UP TO 30 KT BY SAT MORNING. FURTHER INCREASING IS EXPECTED ON SAT AS A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH SETS UP OVER FAR WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH GALES UP TO 35 KT ON EASTERN SUPERIOR POSSIBLE LATE SAT. THIS TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST INTO CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR ON SUN AND BECOME STATIONARY. WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO TURN NE BEHIND THE TROUGH WITH SPEEDS TO 30 KT. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...ROLFSON LONG TERM...AJ AVIATION...JV MARINE...ROLFSON/AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
700 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008 LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION... .SYNOPSIS...(400 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL SLIDE SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE AREA THIS EVENING...CHANGING ANY MIXED PRECIPITATION OVER TO SNOW. ANOTHER INCH OR TWO OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE ACROSS CENTRAL LOWER MICHIGAN WITH LESSER AMOUNTS TO THE SOUTH TOWARD THE INDIANA BORDER. THE RAIN AND SNOW WILL COME TO AN END TONIGHT FROM NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST. AS COLDER AIR FILTERS INTO THE REGION INTO WEDNESDAY SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE TOWARD THE COAST...BUT ANY ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE LIGHT. ANOTHER SYSTEM WILL TRAVERSE THE AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY BRINGING SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN ANOTHER CHANCE FOR SNOW. ANY ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW WOULD BE LIGHT. A WARM UP IS EXPECTED INTO THE WEEKEND...WITH HIGHS PUSHING TOWARD 40 DEGREES. && .SHORT TERM...(400 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) (TONIGHT) HAVE OPTED TO LEAVE THE HEADLINES IN PLACE THIS EVENING...AS AN AREA OF SNOW EXPANDS OUT OF SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AND NORTHERN ILLINOIS. THIS PRECIPITATION IS POST FRONTAL AND LIKELY ASSOCIATED WITH FGEN. 850MB-700MB LAYER 2D FRONTOGENESIS PICKS UP THE AREA QUITE WELL. IT SHIFTS THE ZONE OF FRONTOGENESIS RATHER QUICKLY TO THE SOUTH THIS EVENING. WILL MENTION ANOTHER INCH OR TWO POSSIBLE IN THE WARNING AREA AS RETURNS HAVE SPIKED UP MARKEDLY IN THE LAST HOUR. WILL MENTION AROUND AN INCH POSSIBLE IN THE ADVISORY COUNTIES AND AN INCH OR LESS IN THE SOUTH. EXPECT THAT AS THE FRONT PULLS AWAY TO THE EAST THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE EVENING...THE MOISTURE WILL BEGIN TO BECOME SHALLOW AND THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD DIMINISH. REELED IN THE TIME OF THE HEADLINES TO 1000PM. WE WILL BE MONITORING RADAR TRENDS CLOSELY THIS EVENING. && .LONG TERM...(440 AM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) (WEDNESDAY THROUGH TUESDAY) THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM THAT/S CAUSED THE RAIN/SNOW TODAY AND LAST NIGHT WILL BE MOVING AWAY FROM THE CWA WEDNESDAY. THERE ISN/T A BIG BLAST OF COLD AIR BEHIND THIS SYSTEM SO WE THINK THAT LAKE EFFECT POTENTIAL IS MINIMAL. THAT SAID...H8 TEMPS WILL BRIEFLY FALL TO AROUND -11C EARLY WEDNESDAY. WE/LL KEEP POP IN OVER THE LAKE SHORE BUT DIMINISH THROUGH THE DAY. ANOTHER CLIPPER WILL MOVE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT/THURSDAY. SOME LIGHT SNOW IS POSSIBLE WITH THIS SYSTEM ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE NRN CWA BUT THE MAIN FORCING WITH THE LOW IS NORTH OF THE CWA. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH BEHIND THE SYSTEM MID DAY THURSDAY. A LITTLE BETTER SHOT OF COLD AIR IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM. POPS WILL BE A BIT HIGHER...BUT DON/T WANT TO GO ABOVE CHC DUE TO LIMITED MOISTURE. BUFKIT RH PROFILES SHOWS MOISTURE ONLY CLIMBING TO AROUND 4-5K FEET. THAT WON/T SUPPORT MUCH LAKE SHSN. PCPN WITH THAT SYSTEM WILL END LATE FRIDAY. A WARM FRONT WILL MOVE BACK THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT AND WARMER AIR WILL BE MOVING IN FOR THE WEEKEND. A CLIPPER MOVING SOUTHEAST WILL DEVELOP A STRONG SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF IT. SATURDAY COULD BE BREEZY. TEMPS WILL LIKELY CLIMB INTO THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. A SECONDARY LOW DEVELOPING ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE FRONT WILL PRODUCE SOME PCPN SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. AT THIS POINT...THERMAL PROFILES SUPPORT MIXED RAIN AND SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT AND RAIN SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. ECMWF AND GFS DIFFER A BIT ON TIMING THE COLD FRONT THROUGH THE REGION. THE GFS BRINGS THE FRONT THROUGH MONDAY AROUND 12Z AND THE ECMWF 12 HRS LATER. WE/LL SPLIT THE MIDDLE AT THIS POINT AND RUN WITH MOSTLY A RAIN/SNOW MIX. MODELS KEEP THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY OVER THE CWA THROUGH TUESDAY WHICH WILL LIKELY MEAN A HIGHER CHC OF RAIN ACROSS THE SOUTH AND SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN CWA. && .MARINE...(400 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) WINDS ARE INCREASING OUT OF THE NORTH ON LAKE MICHIGAN AS THE FRONT SLIDES SOUTH. WINDS CURRENTLY ARE GUSTING 22 KNOTS AT BIG SABLE POINT. EXPECTING WINDS TO PEAK THIS EVENING AROUND 30 KNOTS...WHICH WILL PUSH WAVES TO 7 TO 10 FEET. WAVES WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE INTO WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE AREA. && .AVIATION...(700 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) AS COLDER AIR MOVES IN FROM THE NORTH...THE SOUTHERN TAF SITES KJXN KBTL KAZO AND KLAN WILL TRANSITION TO SNOW. THE SNOW WILL LAST FOR SEVERAL HOURS AT ALL TAF SITES BEFORE TAPERING OFF AROUND MIDNIGHT. CONDITIONS SHOULD REMAIN MAINLY IFR FOR ALL TAF SITES WITH SOME TEMPO LIFR WITH AN IMPROVING TREND FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH 06Z TO MVFR. KJXN SHOULD BE THE LAST TO IMPROVE. WHILE SOME FZRA WAS SEEN AT KLAN...TAMDAR DATA AND LAPS SOUNDINGS SUGGESTS IT WILL BE VERY BRIEF WITH THE TRANSITION TO SNOW TO OCCUR RATHER RAPIDLY. AS DRIER AIR WORKS ITS WAY DOWN FROM THE NORTH WEDNESDAY MORNING CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO GO TO VFR. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR THE MVFR CONDITIONS TO LINGER THROUGH WEDNESDAY...WHICH WE WILL NEED TO MONITOR. && .HYDROLOGY...(400 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008) PRECIPITATION TOTALS HAVE NOT BEEN HEAVY ENOUGH TO AFFECT RIVER LEVELS...SO NO HYDRO ISSUES ARE ANTICIPATED IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS. JACKSON HAS SEEN A RISE IN RIVER LEVELS...BUT IS STILL WELL WITHIN BANK. SCOTTVILLE IS SHOWING A RISE AS WELL...WHICH IS THE RESULT OF SOME ICE IN THE RIVER. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MUSKEGON... MONTCALM AND GRATIOT COUNTIES NORTHWARD THROUGH 03Z WED. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR OTTAWA... KENT... IONIA AND CLINTON COUNTIES THROUGH 03Z WED. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ST. JOSEPH TO MANISTEE THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. && $$ SYNOPSIS: DUKE SHORT TERM: DUKE LONG TERM: 93 MARINE: DUKE AVIATION: MJS HYDROLOGY: DUKE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
450 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008 .SYNOPSIS... WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW A POSITIVE TILT UNPHASED TROF EXTENDING FROM HUDSON BAY TO TX. IN THE SRN STREAM...ONE WEAKENING SHORTWAVE IS LIFTING NE THRU THE CNTRL/LWR LAKES REGION...ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WAS OVER OK/KS WITH A THIRD IN THE VCNTY OF SRN NM/W TX. IN THE NRN STREAM...A SHORTWAVE WAS DROPPING SE THRU MANITOBA. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. CLOSER TO HOME...IN THE WAKE OF DEPARTING -SN/DEEPER MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH SRN STREAM SHORTWAVES...LES REGIME HAS DEVELOPED OFF LAKE SUPERIOR UNDER NRLY FLOW CAA. DRY AIRMASS HEADING S (PER 12Z CWPL SOUNDING) HAS KEPT LES GENERALLY ON THE LIGHT SIDE...BUT THE FLUFF FACTOR HAS BEEN STEADILY INCREASING AS AIRMASS IN THE CONVECTIVE LAYER COOLS TO FAVORABLE TEMPS FOR DENDRITES TO GROW. AFTN TAMDAR SOUNDING SHOWED INVERSION BASED AT 850MB WITH TEMP AT INVERSION BASE OF -16C...SUPPORTING THE INCREASE IN SNOW TO WATER RATIOS THIS AFTN. LONGER FETCH AIDED BY LAKE NIPIGON MAY HAVE LED TO SOME LOCALLY HEAVIER LES IN FAR WRN UPPER MI IN THE VCNTY OF KIWD DURING THE DAY AS SUGGESTED BY VIS SATELLITE IMAGERY. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT/WED)... LES AND TEMPS ARE THE MAIN FCST ISSUES TONIGHT. SHORTWAVE OVER MANITOBA WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. WITH TRACK OVER THE AREA...BEST FORCING WILL PASS N OF HERE. IN ADDITION...SINCE LOW-LEVEL CAA IS DOMINATING...THERE IS LITTLE OR NO FORCING ACROSS THE FCST AREA. NONETHELESS...WOULD STILL EXPECT TO SEE AT LEAST A LITTLE ENHANCEMENT AS INVERSIONS SHOULD RISE A BIT WITH APPROACH OF SHORTWAVE. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE HIGH WITH FAVORABLE DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH TEMPS DOMINATING BLO THE INVERSION. SO A GOOD FLUFF FACTOR (PROBABLY AT LEAST 25 TO 1) WILL BOOST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT. BEST LES TONIGHT SHOULD TEND TO BECOME FOCUSED INTO ALGER COUNTY AND AT LEAST FAR ERN MARQUETTE COUNTY FOR A TIME. THIS AREA WILL BE FAVORED AS LAND BREEZES WILL RESULT IN STRONGER LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE DEVELOPING THERE. IN ADDITION...THAT AREA WILL BE INLINE FOR PRECONDITIONING FROM STILL OPEN LAKE NIPIGON. THE RUC13...WHICH OFTEN DOES A NICE JOB ON LAND/LAKE INTERACTIONS (BUT SOMETIMES DOES OVERDO IT)...SHOWS A MESOLOW DEVELOPING NEAR MUNISING LATE TONIGHT/WED MORNING. THE NAM AND LOCAL HIGH RES WRF-ARW ALSO HINT AT A CIRCULATION IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION...BUT IT`S MORE SO WED MORNING/EARLY AFTN IN THE COL AREA WITHIN PASSING SFC RIDGE AXIS. IN ANYCASE...IT WILL BE SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR SINCE ITS DEVELOPMENT WOULD RESTRUCTURE WIND PARALLEL BANDS DOMINATING FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT AND COULD REALLY FOCUS LOCALLY HEAVIER SNOW. FOR NOW...WILL ASSUME JUST STRENGTHENING CONVERGENCE BTWN MARQUETTE/MUNISING OVERNIGHT. HAVE PAINTED 2-5 INCH ACCUMULATIONS IN THAT AREA...BUT IT`S POSSIBLE ACCUMULATIONS COULD RISE TO ADVY CRITERIA DEPENDING ON HOW DEVELOPING DOMINANT BANDS ORGANIZE THIS EVENING. ELSEWHERE IN THE LES AREAS...FLUFFY ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT SHOULD RANGE FROM 1-3 INCHES. AWAY FROM LAKE SUPERIOR LES...EXPECT DRY WEATHER WITH TEMPS THE MAIN ISSUE. SHOULD IT CLEAR OUT...TEMPS WILL CRASH. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS WINDS IN THE CLOUD BEARING LAYER WILL RETAIN ENOUGH OF A NRLY COMPONENT THAT LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS SHOULD DOMINATE EVEN WELL INLAND AWAY FROM LES. UNDER THIS ASSUMPTION...TOOK A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO MINS...NOT GOING ANY LWR THAN AROUND 5F OVER THE INTERIOR SW. BIG TEMP BUST POTENTIAL IS THERE. LINGERING LES OFF LAKE SUPERIOR WILL END WED AS HIGH PRES RIDGE PASSES AND WINDS BECOME SRLY. ANOTHER INCH OR TWO OF ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE ACROSS ALGER COUNTY WED MORNING BEFORE LES SHIFTS OFFSHORE. IN THE AFTN...WILL NEED TO WATCH FOR THE POTENTIAL OF LES STREAMING IN OFF LAKE MICHIGAN INTO THE SE FCST AREA AS WINDS BECOME SRLY. SOME OF THE HIGHER RES MODELS SHOW MIDLAKE CONVERGENCE THAT COULD SET THE STAGE FOR A PERIOD OF DECENT LES. THIS SHOULD BE MORE AN ISSUE HEADING INTO WED NIGHT AS SRLY WINDS STRENGTHEN. OTHERWISE... ATTENTION TURNS TO NEXT SHORTWAVE HEADING SE TOWARD THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL REACH NRN MN LATE AFTN/EARLY EVENING. DECENT ISENTROPIC ASCENT REGIME AND DEEP LAYER QVECTOR CONVERGENCE AHEAD OF FEATURE SHOULD RESULT IN -SN SPREADING INTO WRN UPPER MI DURING THE AFTN. .LONG TERM (WED NIGHT THROUGH NEXT TUE)... MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS ARE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WITH CLIPPER SYSTEM WED NIGHT AND THEN MIXED PCPN SCENARIO FOR SUN/MON. WED NIGHT...CLIPPER SYSTEM INDICATED YESTERDAY TO MOVE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR IS STILL SHOWN TODAY...WITH TIMING ABOUT THE SAME. HOWEVER...THE NAM HAS SLOWED UP A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT NOW...FAVOR THE FASTER ECMWF/UKMET/GFS/LOCAL WRF-ARW WHICH BRING THE LOW FROM NRN MN AT 00Z THU TO NE LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z THU. THE NAM ONLY BRINGS IT INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. CLIPPER SHOULD BRING SOME WARM ADVECTION SNOW ACROSS THE AREA...ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CWA AND ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR...CLOSER TO THE BETTER DYNAMICS FROM THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER. SOUNDINGS ARE ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE WITH THE LIFT FROM ALL MODELS...WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE (DGZ). THE AIRMASS BELOW THE DGZ IS NOT ALL THAT COLD EITHER...WHICH SHOULD HELP REDUCE AGGREGATION. THEREFORE HAVE GONE WITH SNOW TO WATER RATIOS AROUND 20 TO 1...WHICH RESULTS IN A COUPLE INCHES OF SNOW BASED ON WELL AGREED UPON QPF FROM THE GFS/REGIONAL CANADIAN/LOCAL WRF-ARW. ANOTHER AREA OF INTEREST IS SE SCHOOLCRAFT INTO LUCE COUNTY WITH A STRONG LIKELIHOOD OF A LAKE MICHIGAN BAND IMPACTING THIS PORTION OF THE CWA. LUCKILY THE LLVL FLOW DOES NOT FAVOR A BAND STAYING IN ONE SPOT...AS THE BAND SHOULD MOVE IN AROUND 06Z THEN STARTING MOVING SLOWLY EAST AS THE FLOW GOES FROM SOUTH TO SW. NONETHELESS...AN ADVISORY LOOKS TO BE NEEDED AT LEAST FOR LUCE COUNTY. LATE IN THE NIGHT...A COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER WILL BE MOVING INTO THE WESTERN U.P.. WITH 850MB TEMPS FALLING TO -12 TO -14C ALONG THE FRONT...IT IS LIKELY THERE WILL BE A BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG IT. THEREFORE...POP GRIDS AFTER 06Z DENOTE LIKELY WORDING IN THE WEST AS WELL. LOW TEMPERATURES GENERALLY A BLEND OF MET/MAV GUIDANCE...GIVEN THAT PLENTY OF CLOUDS AND WIND WILL BE AROUND. THU THROUGH FRI...MUCH OF THIS PERIOD IS DOMINATED BY LAKE EFFECT... AS AN UPPER TROUGH SETTLES IN OVER THE GREAT LAKES. THE MAIN PORTION OF THIS UPPER TROUGH COMES DOWN OUT OF NORTHWEST TERRITORIES. 850MB TEMPS DROP DOWN TO -20 TO -22C BY 12Z FRI. THEREFORE HIGHS AND LOWS WILL BE COLD DURING THIS PERIOD...ESPECIALLY WITH LOWS ON THU NIGHT. STAYED TOWARDS THE LOW END OF GUIDANCE FOR THU NIGHT...BUT LUCKILY THERE SHOULD BE SOME CLOUDS AND WIND TO PREVENT TEMPS FROM PLUMMETING TOO MUCH. REGARDING THE LAKE EFFECT...HAVE INCREASED POPS TO LIKELY FOR THE WEST AND AREAS EAST OF MARQUETTE WITH A GENERAL NW FLOW EXPECTED. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE FAIRLY HIGH ON THU... 20 TO 1 OR SO. AS THE COLD AIR COMES IN...THE RATIOS WILL DROP SOME OVER THE WEST AS A PORTION OF THE DGZ FALLS BELOW THE CLOUD BASE. HOWEVER...THE LONGER FETCH OF WARMER AIR OFF EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD THE DGZ IN THE CLOUD...SO HAVE INCREASED RATIOS IN THE EASTERN CWA. RATIOS WILL STABILIZE AGAIN ON FRI AROUND 20 TO 1 AS DAYTIME HEATING HELPS WARM UP THE LOW LEVELS. AMOUNT WISE OVER THIS TIME PERIOD...IT APPEARS MOST OF IT SHOULD BE LIGHT...WITH TOTALS PERHAPS UP TO 6 INCHES IN THE EASTERN CWA. OF COURSE THERE IS ALWAYS POTENTIAL FOR A DOMINANT BAND TO HELP INCREASE AMOUNTS MORE...WHICH DEFINITELY CANNOT BE RULED OUT FOR ALGER COUNTY AS THE LAND BREEZE KICKS IN OFF OF MARQUETTE COUNTY. FRI NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY...MODELS AGREE AGAIN WELL ON THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN...TRANSITIONING TO A WESTERN TROUGH AND EAST COAST RIDGE BY LATE SUN...THEN REMAINING THAT WAY THROUGH AT LEAST MONDAY AND LIKELY INTO TUESDAY. HOWEVER...THERE REMAINS A MAJOR QUESTION ON WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE SAT NIGHT TO MON TIME FRAME. THE 06Z GFS AND 00Z CANADIAN NOW LOOK LIKE THE 08/00Z ECMWF RUN BRINGING A SFC LOW ACROSS THE CWA ON SUN...WITH COLD AIR FLOWING IN BEHIND IT FOR MON. ON THE OTHER HAND...THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET ARE SLOWER AND REMAIN FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THE 08/12Z ECMWF IN SHOWING THE LOW CROSSING MON MORNING. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SYSTEM IS THAT NO MATTER WHICH TIME FRAME IS PREFERRED FOR IT MOVE THROUGH...850MB TEMPS WARM UP ENOUGH TO TURN PCPN AT A MINIMUM TO SLEET/FREEZING RAIN AND LIKELY RAIN. IT APPEARS THE DIFFERENCE BTWN THE FASTER AND SLOWER RUNS IS RELATED TO A NRN STREAM SHRTWV TROUGH CROSSING CENTRAL CANADA LATE SAT...AND WHERE THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE SFC LOW IS LOCATED. THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET HAVE THE SHRTWV IN EASTERN IDAHO AT 00Z SUN COMPARED TO THE 06Z GFS WHICH IS IN THE WRN DAKOTAS...CLOSER TO BEING PICKED UP BY THE NRN STREAM SHRTWV. GIVEN THE FLUCTUATION SEEN IN THE GFS DURING THE PAST FOUR RUNS AND THAT PRACTICALLY ALL OF THE 00Z GFS ENSEMBLES AGREE WITH THE 00Z ECMWF...HAVE DECIDED TO LEAN TOWARDS THE ECMWF FOR THE FORECAST WITH THIS SYSTEM. OUTSIDE OF THIS SYSTEM...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT. SOME OF THE DETAILS. FOR FRI NIGHT...INCREASING WARM ADVECTION IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH ON FRI AND AHEAD OF A WEAK SHRTWV MOVING THROUGH THE FLOW SHOULD BRING SOME LIGHT SNOW TO THE AREA. BULK OF THE SNOW APPEARS RIGHT NOW TO STAY TO THE NORTH...THOUGH...OVER NRN LAKE SUPERIOR. THERE AGAIN COULD BE A BAND OFF LAKE MICHIGAN...BUT NOW THE WINDS MIGHT BE TOO SW TO ALLOW FOR THE BAND TO IMPACT THE CWA. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES DURING THE DAY SAT WITH YET ANOTHER SHRTWV INDICATED TO MOVE THROUGH THE FLOW. THIS ADVECTION LOOKS STRONGER...WITH 850MB WINDS REACHING 45-50 KT. IN ADDITION...MORE MOISTURE IS TAPPED OUT OF THE GULF OF MEXICO...SO MORE PCPN IS POSSIBLE. 850MB TEMPS ONLY RISE TO -2 TO -4C...SO RIGHT NOW IT IS ASSUMED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OUT OF THE WESTERN U.S. LIFTS TOWARDS UPPER MI. PCPN SAT NIGHT MAY TURN INTO A MIX OF RAIN/SNOW AS 850MB TEMPS CONTINUE TO WARM...THEN CHANGE MOSTLY TO RAIN OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL AND EAST ON SUN. 00Z ECMWF ACTUALLY HAS READINGS OF 4-6C OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL BY 00Z MON. GIVEN THESE READINGS...CONCERN ACTUALLY STARTS TO EXIST OF THUNDER. WILL NOT INCLUDE THUNDER AT THE MOMENT...SINCE SHOWALTER INDICES ARE 0-2C JUST TO OUR SOUTH. MUCH OF UPPER MI MAY END UP DEALING WITH ONLY RAIN SUN NIGHT AS THE ENTIRE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA HAS 850MB TEMPS OF 2-6C BY 12Z MON PER THE 00Z ECMWF RUN. NEW 12Z ECMWF RUN IS A BIT COLDER NOW. THEREFORE...WILL STILL KEEP A RAIN/SNOW MIX GOING. COLD FRONT COMES THROUGH MON...WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS QUITE STRONG AS 850MB TEMPS PLUMMET TO -16C OVER WESTERN SUPERIOR BY 00Z TUE...SO FALLING TEMPS ON MON ARE PLANNED. FURTHER COOLING IS EXPECTED MON NIGHT AND TUE AS A PORTION OF THE WESTERN UPPER TROUGH MOVES THROUGH UPPER MI. WIND FLOW GOES FROM WEST TO NORTH...BUT NOT MUCH MOISTURE IS PRESENT AS A CANADIAN HIGH BUILDS IN AT THE SFC...SO ONLY LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED. FUTURE SHIFTS WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE SYSTEM FOR THIS WEEKEND. HAVE DECLINED TO MENTION FZRA OR SLEET BECAUSE IT IS SO FAR OUT AND THOSE DETAILS CAN CHANGE GREATLY. NONETHELESS...EACH ONE IS POSSIBLE. 12Z CYCLE UPDATE...THE 12Z GFS ENSEMBLES SHOW MUCH MORE SPREAD...WITH HALF OF THEM LOOKING MORE LIKE THE 00Z ECMWF/CANADIAN AND THE OTHER HALF LIKE THE 06Z/12Z GFS. THE 12Z CANADIAN CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE ITS PREDECESSOR...AS DOES THE NEW 12Z ECMWF...SO UNCERTAINTY STILL REMAINS. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE)... WITH INCREASINGLY COLDER AIR FLOWING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR...LAKE EFFECT -SHSN WILL CONTINUE. IN GENERAL...MVFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL AT KCMX/KSAW THRU THE AFTN WITH PERIODS OF IFR...ESPECIALLY AT KSAW AS NRLY WINDS ARE MORE FAVORABLE FOR LAKE EFFECT -SHSN AND STRONGER WINDS. AS LOW-LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY BACKS MORE TO THE NW TONIGHT WITH APPROACH OF HIGH PRES RIDGE...-SHSN WILL DIMINISH TO FLURRIES OR END AT KSAW. HOWEVER...MVFR CIGS MAY PERSIST UNTIL LATER WED MORNING WHEN WINDS BACK FURTHER...RESULTING IN BETTER DOWNSLOPING. AT KCMX...WINDS WILL REMAIN FAVORABLE FOR -SHSN AND MVFR CONDITIONS THRU THE END OF THIS FCST PERIOD. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRES RIDGE DRIFTING E AND REACHING LAKE SUPERIOR WED MORNING WILL RESULT IN A STEADY DIMINISHING OF WINDS FROM W TO E TONIGHT THRU WED MORNING. A PERIOD OF VARIABLE WINDS IN THE 5-15KT RANGE SHOULD OCCUR AS THE RIDGE PASSES. SRLY WINDS WILL THEN STRENGTHEN FROM W TO E WED AFTN INTO THE EVENING AHEAD OF APPROACHING LOW PRES. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER NRN MN WED EVENING WILL SHIFT EAST ACROSS NRN LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT INTO THU MORNING. SOUTH TO SW WINDS SHOULD APPROACH 30 KT AHEAD OF THE LOW...THEN SHIFT WEST TO NW AT ABOUT THE SAME SPEED BEHIND IT FOR THU. LOOK FOR WINDS TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH TO EVENTUALLY BELOW 20 KT BY EARLY FRI AFTN AS A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE CROSSES LAKE SUPERIOR. AS THE HIGH SHIFTS EAST FRI NIGHT...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE AGAIN...REACHING UP TO 30 KT BY SAT MORNING. FURTHER INCREASING IS EXPECTED ON SAT AS A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH SETS UP OVER FAR WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH GALES UP TO 35 KT ON EASTERN SUPERIOR POSSIBLE LATE SAT. THIS TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST INTO CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR ON SUN AND BECOME STATIONARY. WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO TURN NE BEHIND THE TROUGH WITH SPEEDS TO 30 KT. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...ROLFSON LONG TERM...AJ AVIATION...ROLFSON MARINE...ROLFSON/AJ
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NWS ST LOUIS MO
404 PM CST TUE DEC 9 2008 .DISCUSSION... /341 PM CST TUE DEC 9 2008/ THE STRONG COLD FRONT CONTINUES TO PUSH THROUGH THE SERN PORTION OF THE CWA AT MID-AFTERNOON. SO FAR IT HAS BEEN WELL-BEHAVED WITH SOME SPOTTY 1-2 IN SNOW ACCUMULATIONS IN KNOX COUNTY. ELSEWHERE WINTRY PCPN HAS BEEN RATHER LIGHT AND NOT MUCH OF AN ISSUE. THE PCPN ATTM IS OCCURING IN TWO AREAS. THE SNOW IN NE MO IS OCCURING IN ASSOCN WITH A LONG FRONTOGENETIC BAND WHICH STRETCHES FROM NRN OK ACROSS NRN MO...WHILE ANOTHER AREA OF RAIN IS OVER SW IL IN ASSOCIATION WITH WK LIFT AHEAD OF THE TROF AND WAA ALOFT. PRIND ARE THAT THE FRONTOGENETIC BAND IMPACTING NE MO WILL GRADUALLY DSIPT DURING THE EARLY EVENING WITH SOME ADDITIONAL LIGHT ACCUMS. WHILE THE RAIN AREA SHOULD MOVE EASTWARD...GENERALLY IN ADVANCE OF THE SUB-FREEZING AREA. IN BETWEEN THESE ZONES THE PCPN CHANCES APPEAR TO BE MUCH LESS GIVEN WEAK FORCING AND ANY AMOUNTS WOULD BE LIGHT. P-TYPES CUD RUN THE GAMIT WITH DEEP COLD AIR STILL LAGGING THE LEADING EDGE OF THE SURFACE FREEZING LINE. I HAVE CARRIED JUST CHANCE POPS GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY AND AGAIN EXPECTING ANY PCPN TO BE LIGHT...HOWEVER THIS COULD STILL CAUSE ISSUES. FOR THE OVERNIGHT HOURS INTO WEDNESDAY THE LAST 2 RUNS OF THE NAM HAVE THROWN A WRENCH INTO AN OTHERWISE STRAIGHTFORWARD FCST. THE 12Z AND 18Z NAM RUNS WANT TO DEVELOP A NEW DEFORMATION ZONE/FRONTOGENETIC PCPN BAND ACROSS SRN MO LATER TONIGHT DUE TO A MID LEVEL LOW MOVING INVOF OF THE OK AND MO/AR BORDER OVER THE NEXT 18H...IMPACTING THE OZARKS LATER TONIGHT AND THE ERN OZARKS AND SOUTHERN IL ON WEDNESDAY. THIS IS QUITE AN OUTLIER FROM THE OTHER AVAILABLE GUIDANCE BUT CAN`T BE DISCOUNTED AS THE PROFILER AND SATELLITE DATA IS SHOWING A POSSIBLE CIRCLN IN NW OK ATTM. WHILE MY CONFIDENCE IS LOW...I HAVE HIGHEST POPS OVERNIGHT ACROSS THE SOUTH AND HAVE NOW INTRODUCED A CHANCE OF SNOW ACROSS THE ERN OZARKS AND EXTREME SW IL ON WED. LATER SHIFTS WILL HAVE TO CAREFULLY EXAMINE OBSERVATIONS AND NEWER MODEL DATA TO SEE IF THIS CHANCE MERITS EVEN GREATER EMPHASIS. EXPECTING A DAY OR SO OF COLD WEATHER AND THEN A NICE MODERATION INTO THE WEEKEND AS THE PATTERN CHANGES AND HEIGHTS RISE ALOFT WITH SLY LOW LEVEL FLOW BECOMING ESTABLISHED. PRIND ARE TEMPS WILL BE ABOVE NORMAL THIS WEEKEND. THE BOTTOM WILL DROP OUT HOWEVER DURING THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK. THE FAVORED ECMWF AND CMC GEM ARE SHOWING A STRONG ARCTIC FRONT WILL PUSH THRU THE AREA SOMETIME ON MONDAY WITH A POTENTIAL ICE STORM ENSUING AS SHALLOW COLD AIR INVADES THE MID MS VLY. STAY TUNED. GLASS && .AVIATION... /506 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2008/ FOR THE 12Z TAFS... LOW PRES CURRENTLY ELONGATED ALONG AN AXIS FROM SE IOWA SWWD INTO ERN OKLAHOMA AHEAD OF WHICH STG SLY FLOW DOMINATES IN CONCERT WITH AN UPR LVL TROF OVR THE INTER-MTN WEST. THIS HAS ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF RA AND TSRA OVR MISSOURI AND ILLINOIS THIS MORNING WITH MVFR CONDITIONS OVR MOST TAF LOCALES. SCT WET WEATHER CONTINUE THRU MRNG AS STRONG MOIST SLY FLOW IN TANDEM WITH UPR LVL INSTABILITY AND FORCING...THIS WL KEEP ALL TAF LOCALES WITHIN MVFR CONDITIONS. IN ADDITION LOCAL AIRCRAFT SOUNDINGS AND WSR-88D VERTICAL WIND PROFILES HV SHOWN STRONGER WINDS SLIGHTLY ALOFT AND THUS HAVE PUT IN LLWS FOR KSTL AND KSUS. COLD FRNT WL PROGRESS THRU KUIN AND KCOU AROUND 15Z AFTER WHICH CONDITIONS WL DETERIORATE TO IFR AND PSBL LIFR CONDITIONS AS CIGS WL LOWER AOA 500 FEET...SUCH CONDITIONS SHLD PREVAIL AROUND 18Z FOR KSTL AND KSUS. STRONG NWLY WINDS SUSTAINED AOA 15KTS GUSTS UP TO 25KTS ARE TO BE ANTICIPATED BEHIND THE FRONT AS STRONG HIGH PRES FROM THE NRN PLNS BUILDS SWD. WITH COLD AIR ENTRENCHING OVR THE RGN RAIN SHLD GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO SNOW. WITH REGARDS TO SNOW HV KEPT BETTER CHCS NWD OVR KCOU AND KUIN WITH THE PROGRESSION OF THE LOW CENTER JUST NORTH...LESSER CHCS FOR KSTL AND KSUS...WL RE-EVALUATE WITH LATER FCSTS. UNTIL THEN HV TEMPO -SN FOR KSTL AND KSUS WITH IFR VSBYS OF 2SM...WHILE PREDOMINANT OVR KCOU AND KUIN INTO THE LATE AFTN HRS AND INTO THE EVNG WITH THE POTENTIAL OF SN AND VSBYS TO LIFR OF 1/2SM. SIPPRELL && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX
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NWS OMAHA/VALLEY NE
315 AM CST MON DEC 8 2008 .DISCUSSION... THE STORM SYSTEM THAT WILL AFFECT THE REGION TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY IS THE MAIN FORECAST CONCERN. WILL CONTINUE WINTER STORM WATCH THAT WAS ISSUED YESTERDAY AND LET DAY SHIFT TRANSITION THINGS OVER. WHAT IS MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN IS THAT AN ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED...BUT LETS SEE WHAT THE 12Z MODELS INDICATE. WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY LOOP EARLY THIS MORNING SHOWED DECENT WAVE PUSHING SEWD FROM THE PACIFIC NW AND A SLIGHTLY MORE IMPRESSIVE CIRCULATION OVER SWRN AZ. THERE WAS SOME LIGHTNING ASSOCIATED WITH THE SECOND FEATURE. PLOTS FROM 00Z SHOWED THE FOLLOWING. THERE WAS NOT MUCH MOISTURE NOTED IN THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. ALL 850 MB DEWPOINTS WERE LESS THAN ZERO. AT 500 MB...12 HOUR HEIGHT FALLS OF 50 METERS OR MORE WERE NOTED OVER MOST OF THE WRN U.S. WITH TWO AREAS OF MORE SIGNIFICANT FALLS. FIRST WAS OVER WA/OR/ID/WRN MT (UP TO 130 METER FALLS) AND THE OTHER WAS OVER SRN CA (120 METER FALL AT SAN DIEGO). AT 300 MB...A JETSTREAK OF AT LEAST 130 KTS WAS PUNCHING INTO THE WA/OR COAST. THERE WAS A 145 KT MAX NOTED OVER NRN MN (AN AIRCRAFT REPORT). SURFACE ANALYSIS AT 09Z SHOWED LOW PRESSURE EXTENDING SWD OVER THE WRN HIGH PLAINS...WITH MAIN LOW APPARENTLY NEAR THE BORDER OF CO/KS/OK. A WARM FRONT WAS LOCATED TO OUR SOUTH ACROSS PARTS OF KS AND MO. SOME OF THE WARMER AIR SOUTH OF THE FRONT SHOULD PUSH INTO PARTS OF SERN NE TODAY. WENT WITH HIGHS FROM AROUND 50 FAR SRN ZONES TO MID 30S ALONG THE SD BORDER. PCPN CHANCES WILL BE ON THE INCREASE DURING THE DAY. NERN NE IS THE MOST LIKELY AREA TO HAVE MEASURABLE PCPN BEFORE 00Z TUESDAY. GENERAL MODEL CONSENSUS IS THAT THE MAIN LOW WILL DEVELOP/MOVE SEWD INTO THE TX PNHDL BY THIS EVENING...THEN EJECT NEWD INTO MO BY 12Z TUESDAY. IT APPEARS PCPN WILL BE HEAVIEST IN TWO BANDS. FIRST FROM ERN OK TOWARD IL AND THE OTHER FROM SRN MN INTO WI. NERN NE SHOULD BE ON THE SWRN EDGE OF THE SECOND AREA. 00Z NAM OUTPUT INDICATED A DECENT POTENTIAL FOR A BAND OF PCPN TO SETUP UNDER DEFORMATION ZN. 06Z NAM NOT QUITE AS AGGRESSIVE. IN GENERAL...MODELS ARE NOT QUITE AS HEAVY WITH QPF. DID NOT WANT TO BACK OFF TOO MUCH...SO KEPT THE POSSIBLE STORM TOTAL AMOUNTS FROM 2 TO 4 INCHES. SOME SPOTS COULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE AND SOME WILL HAVE A LITTLE LESS. MODELS STILL SHOW FAIRLY DECENT MID LEVEL MOISTURE...WITH 750-700 MB MIXING RATIOS 3 TO 4 G/KG TONIGHT. IT DOES DROP OFF TO ABOUT 2 G/KG OVER NERN NE LATE. EXPECT PCPN TO CHANGE OVER FROM RAIN TO SNOW FAIRLY QUICKLY. CAN NOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT SOME MIXED PCPN FOR A FEW HOURS THIS EVENING. SNOW SHOULD BE MOSTLY MOVING OUT BY 18Z TUESDAY...BUT KEPT SOME LOW POPS GOING INTO THE AFTERNOON BASED ON 03Z SREF OUTPUT WHICH STILL SHOWED SOME SNOW FOR SERN HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA IN THE AFTERNOON. NORTH WINDS WILL INCREASE FOR TONIGHT AND STAY STRONG THROUGH THE DAY TUESDAY...THEN COLD HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE STEADY OR EVEN SLOWLY FALL TUESDAY. HIGHS SHOULD REBOUND A BIT WEDNESDAY...WITH MOSTLY UPPER 20S IN WRN IA AND LOWER 30S IN ERN NE. MADE A FEW TWEAKS THROUGH MID WEEK...BUT NOTHING MAJOR. && .AVIATION... FOR TAF SITES KOFK/KOMA/KLNK THROUGH 09/06Z. VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED AT ALL TAF SITES THROUGH 0800Z. MVFR CONDITIONS DEVELOPING 0900Z-06Z WITH R- CHANGING TO S-. LATEST FORECAST SOUNDINGS SUGGEST QUICK TURNOVER TO SNOW. && .OAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON FOR NEZ015-031>034-042>045-050>053-065>068. IA...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON FOR IAZ043-055-056-069-079-080-090-091. && $$ DISCUSSION...MILLER AVIATION...FOBERT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS FORT WORTH TX
501 AM CST MON DEC 8 2008 .AVIATION... MVFR CIGS WHICH HAVE DEVELOPED THIS MORNING WILL STICK AROUND FOR MUCH OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. CIGS MAY BRIEFLY BECOME VFR THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING...BUT WILL PREVAIL MVFR. A TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT ALONG WITH AMPLE MIXING WILL ALLOW WINDS TO INCREASE TO 20G30 OR SO BY 081400 AND REMAIN THERE THROUGH SUNSET. GFS SEEMS BULLISH ON PRECIP AND WILL CONTINUE WITH VCTS/VCSH FOR NOW. MOST LIKELY TIME FOR TSRA STILL APPEARS TO BE AFTER 09000. FROPA IS EXPECTED AT THE METROPLEX AROUND 091500 AND AT WACO A FEW HOURS AFTER THIS TAF CYCLE ENDS. SH/13 && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 405 AM CST MON DEC 8 2008/ THE PRESSURE GRADIENT RESULTING FROM A STRONG SURFACE LOW OVER SOUTHEASTERN COLORADO AND A RIDGE OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. IS RESULTING IN GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS. ACARS AND KFWS AND KGRK VWP DATA INDICATE THAT THERE IS A 50-55 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET...WHICH IS FUNNELING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE INTO THE REGION. WE HAVE ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY FOR ALL BUT THE EXTREME EASTERN ZONES FROM 8 AM TODAY THROUGH 8 PM TONIGHT. THE UPPER LOW THAT CURRENTLY ENTERING SOUTHWESTERN ARIZONA AS OF 0930Z...WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EAST... SLIDING ACROSS TEXAS TUESDAY NIGHT. THERE MAY BE A FEW SPRINKLES THIS MORNING AND WE WILL SEE A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT AREAWIDE...AND SOME OF THESE STORMS MAY BE SEVERE...SEE THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK /FLUS44 KFWD...OR FTWHWOFWD/ FOR DETAILS. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE INTO THE NORTHWESTERN ZONES TOWARD DAYBREAK TUESDAY AND THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST DURING THE EARLY AFTERNOON. AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES ACROSS THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT.. MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD HAVE ENDED. THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME FLURRIES...BUT GIVEN THE MODEL DISAGREEMENTS AS TO HOW MUCH LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL REMAIN AT THAT POINT...HAVE NOT MENTIONED THIS IN THE FORECAST. MUCH COLDER WEATHER IS EXPECTED FOR WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOLLOWED BY MODERATING TEMPERATURES FOR THURSDAY INTO THE WEEKEND. A WEAK SHORTWAVE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE REGION FRIDAY...BUT MOISTURE IS EXPECTED TO BE LIMITED. WE MAY SEE SOME LOW CHANCES OF RAIN RETURN BY SUNDAY. 58 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DALLAS-FT. WORTH, TX 71 57 59 31 50 / 20 60 30 20 0 WACO, TX 71 60 66 31 52 / 20 50 30 20 0 PARIS, TX 63 56 60 28 49 / 30 70 40 20 0 DENTON, TX 69 53 54 28 50 / 20 60 20 20 0 MCKINNEY, TX 66 57 57 28 49 / 30 70 30 20 0 DALLAS, TX 69 57 59 32 50 / 20 60 30 20 0 TERRELL, TX 67 58 60 33 49 / 30 70 30 20 0 CORSICANA, TX 67 58 64 32 50 / 20 60 40 20 0 TEMPLE, TX 71 62 70 34 52 / 20 40 30 20 0 && .FWD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WIND ADVISORY FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 8 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR TXZ091>094-100>105-115>121-129>134-141>146-156>161-174. && $$ 13/58
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS FORT WORTH TX
405 AM CST MON DEC 8 2008 .DISCUSSION... THE PRESSURE GRADIENT RESULTING FROM A STRONG SURFACE LOW OVER SOUTHEASTERN COLORADO AND A RIDGE OF THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. IS RESULTING IN GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS. ACARS AND KFWS AND KGRK VWP DATA INDICATE THAT THERE IS A 50-55 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET...WHICH IS FUNNELING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE INTO THE REGION. WE HAVE ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY FOR ALL BUT THE EXTREME EASTERN ZONES FROM 8 AM TODAY THROUGH 8 PM TONIGHT. THE UPPER LOW THAT CURRENTLY ENTERING SOUTHWESTERN ARIZONA AS OF 0930Z...WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EAST... SLIDING ACROSS TEXAS TUESDAY NIGHT. THERE MAY BE A FEW SPRINKLES THIS MORNING AND WE WILL SEE A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT AREAWIDE...AND SOME OF THESE STORMS MAY BE SEVERE...SEE THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK /FLUS44 KFWD...OR FTWHWOFWD/FOR DETAILS. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE INTO THE NORTHWESTERN ZONES TOWARD DAYBREAK TUESDAY AND THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST DURING THE EARLY AFTERNOON. AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES ACROSS THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT.. MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD HAVE ENDED. THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME FLURRIES...BUT GIVEN THE MODEL DISAGREEMENTS AS TO HOW MUCH LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL REMAIN AT THAT POINT...HAVE NOT MENTION THIS IN THE FORECAST. MUCH COLDER WEATHER IS EXPECTED FOR WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOLLOWED BY MODERATING TEMPERATURES FOR THURSDAY INTO THE WEEKEND. A WEAK SHORTWAVE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE REGION FRIDAY...BUT MOISTURE IS EXPECTED TO BE LIMITED. WE MAY SEE SOME LOW CHANCES OF RAIN RETURN BY SUNDAY. 58 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DALLAS-FT. WORTH, TX 71 57 59 31 50 / 20 60 30 20 0 WACO, TX 71 60 66 31 52 / 20 50 30 20 0 PARIS, TX 63 56 60 28 49 / 30 70 40 20 0 DENTON, TX 69 53 54 28 50 / 20 60 20 20 0 MCKINNEY, TX 66 57 57 28 49 / 30 70 30 20 0 DALLAS, TX 69 57 59 32 50 / 20 60 30 20 0 TERRELL, TX 67 58 60 33 49 / 30 70 30 20 0 CORSICANA, TX 67 58 64 32 50 / 20 60 40 20 0 TEMPLE, TX 71 62 70 34 52 / 20 40 30 20 0 && .FWD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WIND ADVISORY FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 8 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR TXZ091>094-100>105-115>121-129>134-141>146-156>161-174. && $$ 21/58
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SEATTLE WA
930 PM PST SUN DEC 7 2008 .SYNOPSIS...SCATTERED SHOWERS WILL DECREASE OVERNIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD MONDAY. A WARM FRONT WILL REACH THE AREA TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL CHANGE DRAMATICALLY TOWARD THE END OF NEXT WEEK AS A COLD UPPER TROUGH DEVELOPS OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES. && .SHORT TERM...AIR MASS WILL DRY AND COOL A BIT FURTHER OVERNIGHT...THE LAST OF THE SHOWERS WILL MOVE OFF INTO THE CASCADES AND THEN MOSTLY END OVERNIGHT. FCSTS W/ SCT SHOWERS AND THE WINTER ADVISORY FOR THE MTNS ENDING AT 10PM LOOK JUST FINE. A 1026MB SFC HIGH PRES AREA WILL SHIFT OVER WA ON MONDAY. ALTHOUGH THE AIR MASS HAS FINALLY COOLED OFF OVER WRN WA W/ 850MB TEMP ARND -3C THRU MONDAY THE NEXT FNTL SYS OFFSHORE BRINGS WARM ADVECTION INTO THE AREA TUE. LOOKS LIKE LATESTS GFS STARTS UP THE PRECIP MIDDAY TUE AND 850 TEMP WARMS TO ARND +3C TUE NITE AND WED. RAIN SAGS SOUTH WED NITE AND TEMP COOLS OFF BACK TO 0C AS PRECIP ENDS. YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE SYSTEM OFFSHORE MIGHT OCCLUDE AND END UP GIVING A NICE SNOWFALL FOR THE MTNS MIDWEEK BUT IT SEEMS THAT THIS WARM WESTERN U.S. RIDGE THAT HAS PLAGUED THE REGION FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS TAKES ONE LAST PARTING SHOT BEFORE RETROGRADING FAR OFFSHORE FOR NEXT WEEKEND. 19 .LONG TERM...AS MENTIONED ABOVE THE RIDGE SHIFTS WWD AND THE UPPER HIGH IS CENTERED ARND 40N/140W 12Z FRIDAY AS THE PATTERN CHANGE BEGINS. ON SAT THE RIDGE BUILDS NORTH ALG 150W AS A CHILLY UPPER TROF DROPS OVER THE WRN U.S. THE COLD WRN TROF LOOKS LIKE IT WILL PERSIST FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL DAYS. COLD SURFACE HIGH PRES BUILDS OVER WRN CANADA AND COLD FRASER OUTFLOW WILL SHOOT ACROSS WRN WHATCOM AND THE SAN JUANS AND OUT THRU THE STRAIT. UW EXTENSION HAD A NE GALE IN THOSE AREAS SAT. AS THAT COLD AIR MASS FROM B.C. SLIDES SOUTH THRU WRN WA SAT THERE COULD BE A LITTLE SNOW. ALTHOUGH MODIFIED ARCTIC FRONTS MOVG THRU WRN WA TEND TO BE ON THE DRY SIDE AT THE LEAST IT WILL USHER IN A HARD FREEZE STARTING SAT NITE AS THE 1045MB HIGH BUILDS OVER B.C. THRU SUN. 19 && .AVIATION...PUGET SOUND CONVERGENCE ZONE OVER PIERCE COUNTY AT 05Z WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTHEAST. ONLY ISOLATED SHOWERS LEFT THIS EVENING. WIDE RANGE OF CONDITIONS BEING REPORTED AT 05Z WITH SOME PLACES NEARLY CLEAR WHILE IN THE CENTRAL SOUND A STRATUS LAYER AROUND 2500 FEET IS IN PLACE. VARIABLE CONDITIONS CONTINUING INTO THE MORNING HOURS. SURFACE GRADIENTS ARE LIGHT. ACARS SOUNDINGS HAVE NORTHWESTERLY WINDS FROM 850 MB DOWN TO THE SURFACE BUT THE WINDS SPREED ARE LESS THAN 10 KNOTS FOR THE MOST PART. WITH THE AMS STABILIZING OVERNIGHT AND PLENTY OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL GO FOR LOW CEILINGS AFT 12Z...BELOW 1000 FEET...FOR THE PUGET SOUND AREA TERMINALS...WITH HIGHER CEILINGS AT THE OTHER TAF SITES. WITH SOME CLEARING COULD SEE SOME FOG AT KOLM 10Z-18Z. CEILINGS IMPROVING LATER MONDAY MORNING WITH THE IMPROVING TREND CONTINUING INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON. WILL FORECAST CEILINGS ABOVE 3000 FEET BY 00Z TUE. KSEA...TOUGH CALL AT KSEA FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS. CEILINGS TO THE NORTH NEAR 4000 FEET WHILE CEILINGS TO THE SOUTH NEAR 2000 FEET. KTIW THE LOWEST ONE OF THE BUNCH WITH 800 FOOT CEILINGS. VARIABLE CONDITIONS CONTINUING THROUGH 12Z WITH CEILINGS BOUNCING AROUND BETWEEN 1000 AND 4000 FEET. EXPECT CEILINGS TO CONSOLIDATE IN THE 500-1000 FOOT RANGE 12Z-15Z MON. CEILINGS SLOWLY LIFTING LATE MORNING INTO EARLY AFTERNOON AND BY 00Z TUE CEILINGS ABOVE 3000 FEET. LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. FELTON && .MARINE...HIGH PRES WILL BUILD INTO WESTERN WASHINGTON FROM THE WEST TONIGHT AND MON...THEN SHIFT EAST TUE AS THE WARM FRONT OF AN APPROACHING SYSTEM BRUSHES THE FORECAST AREA. THE COLD FRONT WILL SLOWLY CROSS THE WATERS TUE NIGHT AND WED. HIGH PRES WILL REBUILD THU...AND A COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE NORTH ON FRI. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES WINDS CONTINUING CENTRAL AND EASTERN STRAIT PLUS ADMIRALTY INLET UNTIL 09Z MONDAY. SYSTEM TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY CONTINUES TO LOOK WEAK WITH THE BEST CHANCE FOR SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WINDS WILL BE OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. WESTERLY SWELLS WILL BUILD TO 11 FT OVER THE COASTAL WATERS WEDNESDAY AND PEAK AROUND 13 FT ON THURSDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH THE AREA FROM THE NORTH ON FRIDAY. FELTON && .SEW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WA...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY ENDS AT 10PM PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY COAST...CENTRAL STRAIT...EAST ENTRANCE... ADMIRALTY INLET...NORTHERN INLAND WATERS. $$ WEATHER.GOV/SEATTLE FOR THE ENHANCED AFD PLEASE VISIT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/SEATTLE/GAFD/LATEST_WEBAFD.HTML (ALL LOWERCASE)

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
352 AM CST WED DEC 10 2008 .DISCUSSION... 335 AM CST MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS INCLUDE LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS THIS MORNING...THE NEXT CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS THURSDAY NIGHT...AND THEN THE RATE OF TEMPERATURE MODERATION FOR THE WEEKEND. SATELLITE IMAGERY/SURFACE OBSERVATIONS STILL INDICATING SOME LOW CLOUDS ACROSS FAR NORTHEAST ILLINOIS INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA WITH NORTHERLY FLOW OFF LAKE MICHIGAN. A BAND OF SNOW SHOWERS OFF LAKE MICHIGAN WHICH AFFECTED SOUTHERN COOK COUNTY OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS HAS SHIFTED EASTWARD INTO PORTER COUNTY. PARAMETERS FOR LAKE EFFECT VERY UNDERWHELMING WITH ACARS SOUNDINGS NEAR ORD INDICATING 850 HPA TEMPS OF -6 DEG CELS...AND NOT EXPECTING LOW LEVELS TO GET SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER THIS MORNING WITH STRONGER LOW LEVEL CAA REMAINING TO THE NORTH. SHOULD GRADUALLY SEE BACK EDGE OF LOW CLOUDS SLIDE FURTHER EASTWARD THIS MORNING...POSSIBLY LINGERING THROUGH MIDDAY ACROSS FAR SOUTHEAST COOK/EASTERN WILL AND NWRN INDIANA COUNTIES. WILL MAINTAIN MENTION OF SOME SCATTERED LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES THIS MORNING ACROSS NWRN INDIANA. ELSEWHERE EXPECTING SUNNY SKIES THIS MORNING TO GIVE WAY TO INCREASING HIGH CLOUDINESS THIS AFTERNOON. AN ELONGATED SURFACE RIDGE AXIS EXTENDING FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MS RVR VALLEY WILL TRACK ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS THIS AFTERNOON RESULTING IN DIMINISHING WINDS THROUGH THE DAY. POOR MIXING AND FRESH SNOW COVER WILL MAKE FOR A COLD DAY ACROSS THE AREAS WITH HIGHS RANGING FROM THE LOWER TO MID 20S ACROSS FAR NORTHERN ILLINOIS...TO THE LOWER 30S FAR SOUTH. NEXT FAST MOVING SYSTEM/UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK WILL TRACK INTO NORTHERN/CENTRAL WISCONSIN BY THIS EVENING WITH FAIRLY STRONG PRESSURE FALLS NOTED IN STRONG WARM ADVECTION ZONE ACROSS THE DAKOTAS. STRONGER LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE IS ALREADY SITUATED TO THE NORTH OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...AND THUS WAA/ISENTROPIC LIFT IN ADVANCE OF THIS SHEARED SYSTEM WILL REMAIN TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA AND WILL KEEP FORECAST DRY THROUGH TONIGHT. ON THURSDAY...MODELS HAVE COME AROUND TO GOOD AGREEMENT IN NEXT VORT MAX DIGGING A BIT FURTHER SOUTH WITH A BETTER PUSH OF COLD ADVECTION INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS OVERNIGHT. GIVEN TRACK OF THIS VORT AND STRONG CAA...SOME SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES SEEM LIKE A GOOD BET. WILL INTRODUCE A CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS AT THIS TIME FOR THURSDAY NIGHT. WITH TREND IN MODELS TO TAKE STRONGER COLD ADVECTION A BIT FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS FOR THURSDAY NIGHT/FRIDAY MORNING...AND NEW SNOW COVER FROM YESTERDAY...HAVE LOWERED MAX TEMPS A BIT FOR FRIDAY INTO THE LOWER 20S FAR NORTH TO AROUND 30 SOUTH. SHORT WAVE RIDGING WILL BEGIN TO BUILD INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS FRIDAY NIGHT WITH UPPER LEVEL PATTERN SHIFT AS A BROAD UPPER TROUGH WILL DIG INTO THE WESTERN CONUS. THIS WILL SET UP A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE REGION WITH DEEP LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL RESULT IN MODERATING TEMPS THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH HIGHS BY SUNDAY INTO THE 40S MOST LOCATIONS. GFS/ECMWF SHOWING SOME DIFFERENCES IN HANDLING PROGRESSION OF LEAD SHORT WAVE INTO SOUTHWEST ONTARIO SUNDAY...BUT PRECIP CHANCES WILL INCREASE BY LATE SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW WILL OCCUR EARLY IN THE WEEK WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE AND WITH SOME LINGERING TIMING UNCERTAINTIES AT THIS FORECAST DISTANCE...STILL MUCH TOO EARLY TO TRY AND GET TOO DETAILED CONCERNING PRECIP TYPES. MARSILI && .AVIATION... 0600 UTC TAFS...THE SNOW IS BEGINNING TO WIND DOWN OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS. THE LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS THE BACK EDGE OF THE SNOW RAPIDLY PUSHING SOUTHWARD. SNOW HAS ENDED AT RFD AND WILL END AT THE CHICAGO AREA TAF SITES WITHIN AN HOUR OR 2 OF ISSUANCE TIME. ALONG WITH THE ENDING SNOW...SKIES WILL RAPIDLY CLEAR OUT. THE MAIN CONCERN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WILL BE WINDS. A STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE BETWEEN A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING OVER THE OHIO VALLEY AND HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING ACROSS THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. THIS WILL KEEP WINDS AROUND 15KT FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT...BUT THE GUSTINESS SHOULD SUBSIDE AS THE SKIES CLEAR. THE HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN TO BUILD OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS IN THE EARLY MORNING AND WINDS WILL BEGIN TO SUBSIDE TO 5 TO 10KT. THE RIDGE AXIS WILL MOVE OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS BY LATE MORNING ALLOWING WINDS ACROSS THE REGION TO BECOME LIGHT AND VARIABLE BY LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING. ANOTHER CLIPPER-TYPE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO DROP OUT OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND REACH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES BY EARLY EVENING. MID AND HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL REACH THE TERMINALS TOWARD THE END OF THE PERIOD...BRING INCREASING MID AND HIGH CLOUD. KREIN && .MARINE... 352 AM CST LOW PRESSURE CONTINUES TO PULL AWAY TO THE EAST ACROSS NEW ENGLAND THIS MORNING...ALLOWING SURFACE PRESSURE GRADIENT TO SLOWLY RELAX AS HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. GALE WARNING HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO EXPIRE AS OBSERVATIONS ON SOUTH END OF LAKE NOW SHOWING GUSTS NOW TOPPING OUT AROUND 30 KNOTS. HAVE ISSUED SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR IL/IND NEARSHORE ZONES WHICH WILL GO THROUGH 6 PM CST AS WINDS EXPECTED TO DIMINISH FAIRLY STEADILY THROUGH THE MORNING...BUT WAVES EXPECTED TO BE SLOWER TO SUBSIDE AFTER PERIOD OF STRONG NORTH FETCH. HIGH PRESSURE THEN MOVES ACROSS THE LAKE LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING...WHILE ANOTHER AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVES FROM THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN PRAIRIES TO LAKE SUPERIOR BY THURSDAY MORNING. THIS LOW WILL DEEPEN AS IT THEN LIFTS NORTHEAST TO NEAR JAMES BAY THURSDAY NIGHT...WHILE WEAK HIGH PRESSURE MOVES ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES FRIDAY. DEEPER LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE PLAINS SATURDAY...WITH STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT LIKELY LEADING TO SOUTH GALES ON LAKE MICHIGAN THIS WEEKEND. RATZER && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 6 PM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
341 AM CST WED DEC 10 2008 .DISCUSSION... 335 AM CST MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS INCLUDE LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS THIS MORNING...THE NEXT CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS THURSDAY NIGHT...AND THEN THE RATE OF TEMPERATURE MODERATION FOR THE WEEKEND. SATELLITE IMAGERY/SURFACE OBSERVATIONS STILL INDICATING SOME LOW CLOUDS ACROSS FAR NORTHEAST ILLINOIS INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA WITH NORTHERLY FLOW OFF LAKE MICHIGAN. A BAND OF SNOW SHOWERS OFF LAKE MICHIGAN WHICH AFFECTED SOUTHERN COOK COUNTY OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS HAS SHIFTED EASTWARD INTO PORTER COUNTY. PARAMETERS FOR LAKE EFFECT VERY UNDERWHELMING WITH ACARS SOUNDINGS NEAR ORD INDICATING 850 HPA TEMPS OF -6 DEG CELS...AND NOT EXPECTING LOW LEVELS TO GET SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER THIS MORNING WITH STRONGER LOW LEVEL CAA REMAINING TO THE NORTH. SHOULD GRADUALLY SEE BACK EDGE OF LOW CLOUDS SLIDE FURTHER EASTWARD THIS MORNING...POSSIBLY LINGERING THROUGH MIDDAY ACROSS FAR SOUTHEAST COOK/EASTERN WILL AND NWRN INDIANA COUNTIES. WILL MAINTAIN MENTION OF SOME SCATTERED LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES THIS MORNING ACROSS NWRN INDIANA. ELSEWHERE EXPECTING SUNNY SKIES THIS MORNING TO GIVE WAY TO INCREASING HIGH CLOUDINESS THIS AFTERNOON. AN ELONGATED SURFACE RIDGE AXIS EXTENDING FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MS RVR VALLEY WILL TRACK ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS THIS AFTERNOON RESULTING IN DIMINISHING WINDS THROUGH THE DAY. POOR MIXING AND FRESH SNOW COVER WILL MAKE FOR A COLD DAY ACROSS THE AREAS WITH HIGHS RANGING FROM THE LOWER TO MID 20S ACROSS FAR NORTHERN ILLINOIS...TO THE LOWER 30S FAR SOUTH. NEXT FAST MOVING SYSTEM/UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK WILL TRACK INTO NORTHERN/CENTRAL WISCONSIN BY THIS EVENING WITH FAIRLY STRONG PRESSURE FALLS NOTED IN STRONG WARM ADVECTION ZONE ACROSS THE DAKOTAS. STRONGER LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE IS ALREADY SITUATED TO THE NORTH OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...AND THUS WAA/ISENTROPIC LIFT IN ADVANCE OF THIS SHEARED SYSTEM WILL REMAIN TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA AND WILL KEEP FORECAST DRY THROUGH TONIGHT. ON THURSDAY...MODELS HAVE COME AROUND TO GOOD AGREEMENT IN NEXT VORT MAX DIGGING A BIT FURTHER SOUTH WITH A BETTER PUSH OF COLD ADVECTION INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS OVERNIGHT. GIVEN TRACK OF THIS VORT AND STRONG CAA...SOME SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES SEEM LIKE A GOOD BET. WILL INTRODUCE A CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS AT THIS TIME FOR THURSDAY NIGHT. WITH TREND IN MODELS TO TAKE STRONGER COLD ADVECTION A BIT FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS FOR THURSDAY NIGHT/FRIDAY MORNING...AND NEW SNOW COVER FROM YESTERDAY...HAVE LOWERED MAX TEMPS A BIT FOR FRIDAY INTO THE LOWER 20S FAR NORTH TO AROUND 30 SOUTH. SHORT WAVE RIDGING WILL BEGIN TO BUILD INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS FRIDAY NIGHT WITH UPPER LEVEL PATTERN SHIFT AS A BROAD UPPER TROUGH WILL DIG INTO THE WESTERN CONUS. THIS WILL SET UP A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE REGION WITH DEEP LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL RESULT IN MODERATING TEMPS THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH HIGHS BY SUNDAY INTO THE 40S MOST LOCATIONS. GFS/ECMWF SHOWING SOME DIFFERENCES IN HANDLING PROGRESSION OF LEAD SHORT WAVE INTO SOUTHWEST ONTARIO SUNDAY...BUT PRECIP CHANCES WILL INCREASE BY LATE SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW WILL OCCUR EARLY IN THE WEEK WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE AND WITH SOME LINGERING TIMING UNCERTAINTIES AT THIS FORECAST DISTANCE...STILL MUCH TOO EARLY TO TRY AND GET TOO DETAILED CONCERNING PRECIP TYPES. MARSILI && .AVIATION... 0600 UTC TAFS...THE SNOW IS BEGINNING TO WIND DOWN OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS. THE LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS THE BACK EDGE OF THE SNOW RAPIDLY PUSHING SOUTHWARD. SNOW HAS ENDED AT RFD AND WILL END AT THE CHICAGO AREA TAF SITES WITHIN AN HOUR OR 2 OF ISSUANCE TIME. ALONG WITH THE ENDING SNOW...SKIES WILL RAPIDLY CLEAR OUT. THE MAIN CONCERN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WILL BE WINDS. A STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE BETWEEN A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING OVER THE OHIO VALLEY AND HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING ACROSS THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. THIS WILL KEEP WINDS AROUND 15KT FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT...BUT THE GUSTINESS SHOULD SUBSIDE AS THE SKIES CLEAR. THE HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN TO BUILD OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS IN THE EARLY MORNING AND WINDS WILL BEGIN TO SUBSIDE TO 5 TO 10KT. THE RIDGE AXIS WILL MOVE OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS BY LATE MORNING ALLOWING WINDS ACROSS THE REGION TO BECOME LIGHT AND VARIABLE BY LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING. ANOTHER CLIPPER-TYPE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO DROP OUT OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND REACH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES BY EARLY EVENING. MID AND HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL REACH THE TERMINALS TOWARD THE END OF THE PERIOD...BRING INCREASING MID AND HIGH CLOUD. KREIN && .MARINE... 205 PM CST WINDS HAVE PICKED UP OUT OF THE NORTH=NORTHEAST ACROSS THE LAKE IN THE WAKE OF A SLOW MOVING WARM FRONT AND LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL ILLINOIS INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES. A FEW SITES HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROACHING GALE FORCE ALONG THE WESTERN SHORE OF THE LAKES. THESE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN GUSTING FREQUENTLY TOWARD GALE FORCE THROUGH THE REST OF THE DAY INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING WHEN A WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE COMES INTO THE REGION. AFTER A BRIEF LULL IN THE WIND SPEEDS...THEY ARE EXPECTED TO COME BACK UP TO AROUND 30KTS AS A QUICK MOVING LOW TRACKS THROUGH THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES EARLY ON THURSDAY. SOME UNCERTAINTY EXISTS INTO HOW STRONG WINDS WILL BECOME LATE SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY BUT IF ONE FORECAST MODEL PANS OUT WE COULD SEE SOME 40KT PLUS WINDS ACROSS THE NORTH HALF OF THE LAKE. AT THIS POINT...THAT MODEL IS AN OUTLIER SO HAVE TRENDED LIGHTER ON THE WINDS FOR THE WEEKEND. HALBACH && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 6 PM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
329 AM EST WED DEC 10 2008 .DISCUSSION... FORECAST FOCUS ON THE TEMPERATURES THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS DURING A STRETCH OF QUIET WEATHER. THE EARLY MORNING SURFACE MAP TODAY SHOWS A FRONTAL BOUNDARY STRETCHING FROM LAKE ONTARIO SOUTHWARD THROUGH WESTERN OHIO...THEN THROUGH TENNESSEE AND INTO CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI. HIGH PRESSURE WAS CENTERED ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND COVERED MUCH OF THE NATIONS MIDSECTION. ALOFT AT H5 THE CHARACTER OF THE MID LEVEL PATTERN WAS RIDGING OFF EITHER COAST WITH SHARP TROUGHING IN THE MIDDLE...EXTENDING ROUGHLY FROM THE NORTHERN LAKES SOUTHWESTWARD INTO WEST TEXAS. THE MODELS AND GUIDANCE ARE VERY SIMILAR IN THE FIRST THREE DAYS OF THE FORECAST. A BLEND WAS USED. FOR THIS MORNING THE ONLY QUESTION WILL BE ON LINGERING POPS. PTYPE HAS NOT BEEN THE FACTOR IT WAS EXPECTED TO BE. SOUNDING SHOW A VERY SHALLOW COLD LAYER HAS ADVECTED IN...BUT WITH THE MID LEVEL TROUGH STILL TO THE WEST...THERE IS A STOUT INVERSION WITH H8 TEMPS NEAR +5C PER RECENT MDCRS SOUNDINGS. PRECIP IS ENDING QUICKLY FROM WEST TO EAST. SO THE CHANCE IN THE FAR EAST FOR A FEW HOURS PAST 12Z LOOKS GOOD...AND WILL LEAVE AS A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW AS A FEW ASOS OBS THIS MORNING INDICATE SUCH A MIX. BY 18Z THE H5 TROUGH WILL BE PASSING THE AREA. THIS SHOULD KEEP OUR SKIES PARTLY CLOUDY AND THEN ALLOW FOR COLDER AIR ALOFT TO WORK IN. HIGHS TODAY SHOULD REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE 30S. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO FALL A FEW HOURS THIS MORNING THROUGH 15Z OR SO...BUT THEN RECOVER AS THE SKY IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE OVERCAST. TONIGHT SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN. THE SOUTHERN END OF THE H5 TROUGH WILL DEEPEN RAPIDLY ALONG THE GULF COAST AND START TO DEVELOP A SIGNIFICANT COASTAL LOW WHICH WILL NOT IMPACT THE WEATHER IN INDIANA. INSTEAD HERE THE SKIES WILL BE PARTIALLY CLEAR AND WINDS WILL DIMINISH TO ALLOW A COLD NIGHT IN THE TEENS AND LOW 20S. FOR THE DAY ON THURSDAY SOME COLDER AIR WILL TRY TO WORK IN BUT SHOULD BY AND LARGE STAY WELL TO THE NORTH OF INDIANA. THERE WILL BE GENERALLY A CYCLONIC FLOW IN PLACE WHICH SHOULD KEEP SOME CLOUDINESS. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE 30S AGAIN WITH H8 VALUES AROUND -4C. ANOTHER CHILLY NIGHT THURSDAY NIGHT AS COLD ADVECTION BRINGS H8 TEMPS TO NEAR -8C. THE GFS SHOWS SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND EARLY FRIDAY WITH A VORT MAX CROSSING THE AREA IN THE BASE OF THE CANADIAN TROUGH. THE NAM REMAINS DRY DURING THIS PERIOD. THIS WILL PROBABLY BE FLURRIES IF IT AS IS DEPICTED NOW SINCE THERE IS NOT REALLY ANY MOISTURE FOR THIS SYSTEM. WILL NOT MENTION PRECIP IN THIS PACKAGE BUT HAVE THE 14 POPS IN PLACE ACROSS THE NORTH. FRIDAY SHOULD BRING A COLDER DAY AS A SURFACE HIGH DRIFTS OVERHEAD. WILL EXPECT HIGHS A FEW DEGREES COLDER THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO DAYS AS H8 VALUES FLIRT WITH -10C IN A POORLY MIXED ATMOSPHERE WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN. PATTERN WILL SHARPLY MODERATE THIS WEEKEND AS A STRONG PACIFIC TROUGH FORCES H5 RIDGING ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND EAST COAST. A DEEP SURFACE CYCLONE SHOULD TRACK UP THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND PUSH WARM AIR INTO INDIANA WITH H8 TEMPS NEAR +6C BY SUNDAY. WILL EXPECT HIGHS BACK INTO THE 50S DURING THIS TIME. && .AVIATION... DISCUSSION FOR 06Z TAFS. CD FRONT WAS JUST ABOUT THROUGH THE TAF SITES IN TIME FOR THE 06Z ISSUANCE. HAVE GONE WITH N FLOW AT ALL SITES AND IMPROVED VISIBILITIES AS GUSTY WINDS AND LOWER DEWPOINTS ARE RESULTING IN NO FOG. RADAR TRENDS SUGGEST THAT SOME OF THE SN OVR NE ILLINOIS AND CENTRAL IL MAY ADVECT ACRS THE SITES DURG TEH FIRST 6 HRS. HAVE USED A TEMPO GROIUP TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS FOR NOW. CIGS ARE EXPECTED TO IMPROVE TO MVFR AFTER 08Z-10Z AS THE DRIER AIR CONTINUES TO WORK IN. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SLOWLY DRY OUT ON WEDNESDAY AND WL SLOWLY IMPROVE THE MVFR CIGS TO VFR BY 00Z THURSDAY. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ AVIATION...CO PUBLIC...JOHNSON
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1230 AM EST WED DEC 10 2008 UPDATED FOR 06Z AVIATION DISCUSSION .UPDATE... BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THE UPDATE WAS ONGOING LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT FOR ERN MQT AND ALGER COUNTIES. MQT RADAR REVEALS FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE WIND-PARALLEL MULTIBAND LES FROM NEGAUNEE EAST INTO ALGER COUNTY. 30+ MAX DBZ RETURNS NOTED WITHIN THE MORE INTENSE BANDS PROBABLY YIELDING CLOSE TO INCH/HR ACCUMULATION RATES. FAIRLY UNIDIRECTIONAL 350-360 WIND FLOW NOTED ON VWP FROM SFC THROUGH 6KFT. 01Z TAMDAR SNDG AT KSAW SHOWING MOIST PROFILE UP THROUGH 800 MB ALTHOUGH BASE OF INVERSION IS NOTED BLO 4KFT. LOWER INVERSION HEIGHT DOESN`T APPEAR TO BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING BANDS AND PRETTY MUCH ENTIRE MOIST LYR IS LOCATED WITHIN FAVORABLE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE. FAVORABLE DGZ ALSO RESULTING IN FLUFFY 35-40/1 SNOW/WATER RATIOS. 00Z WRF-ARW CONSISTENT WITH PREV RUNS IN SHOWING LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE INCREASING OVER ERN MQT-WRN ALGER COUNTIES LATER THIS EVENING WITH DEVELOPING LAND BREEZES AND THEN BACKING FLOW FROM N TO NW WILL GRADUALLY PUSH LES BANDS OUT OF MQT COUNTY BY 08-09Z. A DOMINANT BAND WILL THEN FOCUS OVER ALGER COUNTY FROM MUNISING TO MELSTRAND FROM LATE TONIGHT INTO WED MORNING. GIVEN THE INCREASING CONVERGENCE AND CONTINUED ADDITIONAL LES ACCUMS DECIDED TO GO WITH A LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY FOR MQT COUNTY UNTIL 3 AM AND FOR ALGER COUNTY 11 AM WED. NO OTHER CHANGES MADE TO FCST. && .SYNOPSIS... WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW A POSITIVE TILT UNPHASED TROF EXTENDING FROM HUDSON BAY TO TX. IN THE SRN STREAM...ONE WEAKENING SHORTWAVE IS LIFTING NE THRU THE CNTRL/LWR LAKES REGION...ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WAS OVER OK/KS WITH A THIRD IN THE VCNTY OF SRN NM/W TX. IN THE NRN STREAM...A SHORTWAVE WAS DROPPING SE THRU MANITOBA. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. CLOSER TO HOME...IN THE WAKE OF DEPARTING -SN/DEEPER MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH SRN STREAM SHORTWAVES...LES REGIME HAS DEVELOPED OFF LAKE SUPERIOR UNDER NRLY FLOW CAA. DRY AIRMASS HEADING S (PER 12Z CWPL SOUNDING) HAS KEPT LES GENERALLY ON THE LIGHT SIDE...BUT THE FLUFF FACTOR HAS BEEN STEADILY INCREASING AS AIRMASS IN THE CONVECTIVE LAYER COOLS TO FAVORABLE TEMPS FOR DENDRITES TO GROW. AFTN TAMDAR SOUNDING SHOWED INVERSION BASED AT 850MB WITH TEMP AT INVERSION BASE OF -16C...SUPPORTING THE INCREASE IN SNOW TO WATER RATIOS THIS AFTN. LONGER FETCH AIDED BY LAKE NIPIGON MAY HAVE LED TO SOME LOCALLY HEAVIER LES IN FAR WRN UPPER MI IN THE VCNTY OF KIWD DURING THE DAY AS SUGGESTED BY VIS SATELLITE IMAGERY. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT/WED)... LES AND TEMPS ARE THE MAIN FCST ISSUES TONIGHT. SHORTWAVE OVER MANITOBA WILL PASS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES TONIGHT. WITH TRACK OVER THE AREA...BEST FORCING WILL PASS N OF HERE. IN ADDITION...SINCE LOW-LEVEL CAA IS DOMINATING...THERE IS LITTLE OR NO FORCING ACROSS THE FCST AREA. NONETHELESS...WOULD STILL EXPECT TO SEE AT LEAST A LITTLE ENHANCEMENT AS INVERSIONS SHOULD RISE A BIT WITH APPROACH OF SHORTWAVE. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE HIGH WITH FAVORABLE DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH TEMPS DOMINATING BLO THE INVERSION. SO A GOOD FLUFF FACTOR (PROBABLY AT LEAST 25 TO 1) WILL BOOST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT. BEST LES TONIGHT SHOULD TEND TO BECOME FOCUSED INTO ALGER COUNTY AND AT LEAST FAR ERN MARQUETTE COUNTY FOR A TIME. THIS AREA WILL BE FAVORED AS LAND BREEZES WILL RESULT IN STRONGER LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE DEVELOPING THERE. IN ADDITION...THAT AREA WILL BE INLINE FOR PRECONDITIONING FROM STILL OPEN LAKE NIPIGON. THE RUC13...WHICH OFTEN DOES A NICE JOB ON LAND/LAKE INTERACTIONS (BUT SOMETIMES DOES OVERDO IT)...SHOWS A MESOLOW DEVELOPING NEAR MUNISING LATE TONIGHT/WED MORNING. THE NAM AND LOCAL HIGH RES WRF-ARW ALSO HINT AT A CIRCULATION IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION...BUT IT`S MORE SO WED MORNING/EARLY AFTN IN THE COL AREA WITHIN PASSING SFC RIDGE AXIS. IN ANYCASE...IT WILL BE SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR SINCE ITS DEVELOPMENT WOULD RESTRUCTURE WIND PARALLEL BANDS DOMINATING FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT AND COULD REALLY FOCUS LOCALLY HEAVIER SNOW. FOR NOW...WILL ASSUME JUST STRENGTHENING CONVERGENCE BTWN MARQUETTE/MUNISING OVERNIGHT. HAVE PAINTED 2-5 INCH ACCUMULATIONS IN THAT AREA...BUT IT`S POSSIBLE ACCUMULATIONS COULD RISE TO ADVY CRITERIA DEPENDING ON HOW DEVELOPING DOMINANT BANDS ORGANIZE THIS EVENING. ELSEWHERE IN THE LES AREAS...FLUFFY ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT SHOULD RANGE FROM 1-3 INCHES. AWAY FROM LAKE SUPERIOR LES...EXPECT DRY WEATHER WITH TEMPS THE MAIN ISSUE. SHOULD IT CLEAR OUT...TEMPS WILL CRASH. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS WINDS IN THE CLOUD BEARING LAYER WILL RETAIN ENOUGH OF A NRLY COMPONENT THAT LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS SHOULD DOMINATE EVEN WELL INLAND AWAY FROM LES. UNDER THIS ASSUMPTION...TOOK A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO MINS...NOT GOING ANY LWR THAN AROUND 5F OVER THE INTERIOR SW. BIG TEMP BUST POTENTIAL IS THERE. LINGERING LES OFF LAKE SUPERIOR WILL END WED AS HIGH PRES RIDGE PASSES AND WINDS BECOME SRLY. ANOTHER INCH OR TWO OF ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE ACROSS ALGER COUNTY WED MORNING BEFORE LES SHIFTS OFFSHORE. IN THE AFTN...WILL NEED TO WATCH FOR THE POTENTIAL OF LES STREAMING IN OFF LAKE MICHIGAN INTO THE SE FCST AREA AS WINDS BECOME SRLY. SOME OF THE HIGHER RES MODELS SHOW MIDLAKE CONVERGENCE THAT COULD SET THE STAGE FOR A PERIOD OF DECENT LES. THIS SHOULD BE MORE AN ISSUE HEADING INTO WED NIGHT AS SRLY WINDS STRENGTHEN. OTHERWISE... ATTENTION TURNS TO NEXT SHORTWAVE HEADING SE TOWARD THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL REACH NRN MN LATE AFTN/EARLY EVENING. DECENT ISENTROPIC ASCENT REGIME AND DEEP LAYER QVECTOR CONVERGENCE AHEAD OF FEATURE SHOULD RESULT IN -SN SPREADING INTO WRN UPPER MI DURING THE AFTN. .LONG TERM (WED NIGHT THROUGH NEXT TUE)... MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS ARE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WITH CLIPPER SYSTEM WED NIGHT AND THEN MIXED PCPN SCENARIO FOR SUN/MON. WED NIGHT...CLIPPER SYSTEM INDICATED YESTERDAY TO MOVE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR IS STILL SHOWN TODAY...WITH TIMING ABOUT THE SAME. HOWEVER...THE NAM HAS SLOWED UP A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT NOW...FAVOR THE FASTER ECMWF/UKMET/GFS/LOCAL WRF-ARW WHICH BRING THE LOW FROM NRN MN AT 00Z THU TO NE LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z THU. THE NAM ONLY BRINGS IT INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. CLIPPER SHOULD BRING SOME WARM ADVECTION SNOW ACROSS THE AREA...ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CWA AND ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR...CLOSER TO THE BETTER DYNAMICS FROM THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER. SOUNDINGS ARE ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE WITH THE LIFT FROM ALL MODELS...WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE (DGZ). THE AIRMASS BELOW THE DGZ IS NOT ALL THAT COLD EITHER...WHICH SHOULD HELP REDUCE AGGREGATION. THEREFORE HAVE GONE WITH SNOW TO WATER RATIOS AROUND 20 TO 1...WHICH RESULTS IN A COUPLE INCHES OF SNOW BASED ON WELL AGREED UPON QPF FROM THE GFS/REGIONAL CANADIAN/LOCAL WRF-ARW. ANOTHER AREA OF INTEREST IS SE SCHOOLCRAFT INTO LUCE COUNTY WITH A STRONG LIKELIHOOD OF A LAKE MICHIGAN BAND IMPACTING THIS PORTION OF THE CWA. LUCKILY THE LLVL FLOW DOES NOT FAVOR A BAND STAYING IN ONE SPOT...AS THE BAND SHOULD MOVE IN AROUND 06Z THEN STARTING MOVING SLOWLY EAST AS THE FLOW GOES FROM SOUTH TO SW. NONETHELESS...AN ADVISORY LOOKS TO BE NEEDED AT LEAST FOR LUCE COUNTY. LATE IN THE NIGHT...A COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLIPPER WILL BE MOVING INTO THE WESTERN U.P.. WITH 850MB TEMPS FALLING TO -12 TO -14C ALONG THE FRONT...IT IS LIKELY THERE WILL BE A BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG IT. THEREFORE...POP GRIDS AFTER 06Z DENOTE LIKELY WORDING IN THE WEST AS WELL. LOW TEMPERATURES GENERALLY A BLEND OF MET/MAV GUIDANCE...GIVEN THAT PLENTY OF CLOUDS AND WIND WILL BE AROUND. THU THROUGH FRI...MUCH OF THIS PERIOD IS DOMINATED BY LAKE EFFECT... AS AN UPPER TROUGH SETTLES IN OVER THE GREAT LAKES. THE MAIN PORTION OF THIS UPPER TROUGH COMES DOWN OUT OF NORTHWEST TERRITORIES. 850MB TEMPS DROP DOWN TO -20 TO -22C BY 12Z FRI. THEREFORE HIGHS AND LOWS WILL BE COLD DURING THIS PERIOD...ESPECIALLY WITH LOWS ON THU NIGHT. STAYED TOWARDS THE LOW END OF GUIDANCE FOR THU NIGHT...BUT LUCKILY THERE SHOULD BE SOME CLOUDS AND WIND TO PREVENT TEMPS FROM PLUMMETING TOO MUCH. REGARDING THE LAKE EFFECT...HAVE INCREASED POPS TO LIKELY FOR THE WEST AND AREAS EAST OF MARQUETTE WITH A GENERAL NW FLOW EXPECTED. SNOW TO WATER RATIOS SHOULD BE FAIRLY HIGH ON THU... 20 TO 1 OR SO. AS THE COLD AIR COMES IN...THE RATIOS WILL DROP SOME OVER THE WEST AS A PORTION OF THE DGZ FALLS BELOW THE CLOUD BASE. HOWEVER...THE LONGER FETCH OF WARMER AIR OFF EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD THE DGZ IN THE CLOUD...SO HAVE INCREASED RATIOS IN THE EASTERN CWA. RATIOS WILL STABILIZE AGAIN ON FRI AROUND 20 TO 1 AS DAYTIME HEATING HELPS WARM UP THE LOW LEVELS. AMOUNT WISE OVER THIS TIME PERIOD...IT APPEARS MOST OF IT SHOULD BE LIGHT...WITH TOTALS PERHAPS UP TO 6 INCHES IN THE EASTERN CWA. OF COURSE THERE IS ALWAYS POTENTIAL FOR A DOMINANT BAND TO HELP INCREASE AMOUNTS MORE...WHICH DEFINITELY CANNOT BE RULED OUT FOR ALGER COUNTY AS THE LAND BREEZE KICKS IN OFF OF MARQUETTE COUNTY. FRI NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY...MODELS AGREE AGAIN WELL ON THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN...TRANSITIONING TO A WESTERN TROUGH AND EAST COAST RIDGE BY LATE SUN...THEN REMAINING THAT WAY THROUGH AT LEAST MONDAY AND LIKELY INTO TUESDAY. HOWEVER...THERE REMAINS A MAJOR QUESTION ON WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE SAT NIGHT TO MON TIME FRAME. THE 06Z GFS AND 00Z CANADIAN NOW LOOK LIKE THE 08/00Z ECMWF RUN BRINGING A SFC LOW ACROSS THE CWA ON SUN...WITH COLD AIR FLOWING IN BEHIND IT FOR MON. ON THE OTHER HAND...THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET ARE SLOWER AND REMAIN FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THE 08/12Z ECMWF IN SHOWING THE LOW CROSSING MON MORNING. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SYSTEM IS THAT NO MATTER WHICH TIME FRAME IS PREFERRED FOR IT MOVE THROUGH...850MB TEMPS WARM UP ENOUGH TO TURN PCPN AT A MINIMUM TO SLEET/FREEZING RAIN AND LIKELY RAIN. IT APPEARS THE DIFFERENCE BTWN THE FASTER AND SLOWER RUNS IS RELATED TO A NRN STREAM SHRTWV TROUGH CROSSING CENTRAL CANADA LATE SAT...AND WHERE THE SHRTWV ASSOCIATED WITH THE SFC LOW IS LOCATED. THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET HAVE THE SHRTWV IN EASTERN IDAHO AT 00Z SUN COMPARED TO THE 06Z GFS WHICH IS IN THE WRN DAKOTAS...CLOSER TO BEING PICKED UP BY THE NRN STREAM SHRTWV. GIVEN THE FLUCTUATION SEEN IN THE GFS DURING THE PAST FOUR RUNS AND THAT PRACTICALLY ALL OF THE 00Z GFS ENSEMBLES AGREE WITH THE 00Z ECMWF...HAVE DECIDED TO LEAN TOWARDS THE ECMWF FOR THE FORECAST WITH THIS SYSTEM. OUTSIDE OF THIS SYSTEM...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT. SOME OF THE DETAILS. FOR FRI NIGHT...INCREASING WARM ADVECTION IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH ON FRI AND AHEAD OF A WEAK SHRTWV MOVING THROUGH THE FLOW SHOULD BRING SOME LIGHT SNOW TO THE AREA. BULK OF THE SNOW APPEARS RIGHT NOW TO STAY TO THE NORTH...THOUGH...OVER NRN LAKE SUPERIOR. THERE AGAIN COULD BE A BAND OFF LAKE MICHIGAN...BUT NOW THE WINDS MIGHT BE TOO SW TO ALLOW FOR THE BAND TO IMPACT THE CWA. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES DURING THE DAY SAT WITH YET ANOTHER SHRTWV INDICATED TO MOVE THROUGH THE FLOW. THIS ADVECTION LOOKS STRONGER...WITH 850MB WINDS REACHING 45-50 KT. IN ADDITION...MORE MOISTURE IS TAPPED OUT OF THE GULF OF MEXICO...SO MORE PCPN IS POSSIBLE. 850MB TEMPS ONLY RISE TO -2 TO -4C...SO RIGHT NOW IT IS ASSUMED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW. WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OUT OF THE WESTERN U.S. LIFTS TOWARDS UPPER MI. PCPN SAT NIGHT MAY TURN INTO A MIX OF RAIN/SNOW AS 850MB TEMPS CONTINUE TO WARM...THEN CHANGE MOSTLY TO RAIN OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL AND EAST ON SUN. 00Z ECMWF ACTUALLY HAS READINGS OF 4-6C OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL BY 00Z MON. GIVEN THESE READINGS...CONCERN ACTUALLY STARTS TO EXIST OF THUNDER. WILL NOT INCLUDE THUNDER AT THE MOMENT...SINCE SHOWALTER INDICES ARE 0-2C JUST TO OUR SOUTH. MUCH OF UPPER MI MAY END UP DEALING WITH ONLY RAIN SUN NIGHT AS THE ENTIRE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA HAS 850MB TEMPS OF 2-6C BY 12Z MON PER THE 00Z ECMWF RUN. NEW 12Z ECMWF RUN IS A BIT COLDER NOW. THEREFORE...WILL STILL KEEP A RAIN/SNOW MIX GOING. COLD FRONT COMES THROUGH MON...WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS QUITE STRONG AS 850MB TEMPS PLUMMET TO -16C OVER WESTERN SUPERIOR BY 00Z TUE...SO FALLING TEMPS ON MON ARE PLANNED. FURTHER COOLING IS EXPECTED MON NIGHT AND TUE AS A PORTION OF THE WESTERN UPPER TROUGH MOVES THROUGH UPPER MI. WIND FLOW GOES FROM WEST TO NORTH...BUT NOT MUCH MOISTURE IS PRESENT AS A CANADIAN HIGH BUILDS IN AT THE SFC...SO ONLY LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED. FUTURE SHIFTS WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE SYSTEM FOR THIS WEEKEND. HAVE DECLINED TO MENTION FZRA OR SLEET BECAUSE IT IS SO FAR OUT AND THOSE DETAILS CAN CHANGE GREATLY. NONETHELESS...EACH ONE IS POSSIBLE. 12Z CYCLE UPDATE...THE 12Z GFS ENSEMBLES SHOW MUCH MORE SPREAD...WITH HALF OF THEM LOOKING MORE LIKE THE 00Z ECMWF/CANADIAN AND THE OTHER HALF LIKE THE 06Z/12Z GFS. THE 12Z CANADIAN CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE ITS PREDECESSOR...AS DOES THE NEW 12Z ECMWF...SO UNCERTAINTY STILL REMAINS. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE)... THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW BEGINNING TO SHOW SOME SIGNS OF BACKING FROM N TO NW WITHIN THE PAST HR. LOOK FOR LES TO DIMINISH OVERNIGHT AT KCMX WITH SHORTENED NW FETCH AND INFLUX OF DRIER AIR FROM NW OF LAKE SUPERIOR. LES SHOULD DIMINISH TO FLURRIES OR END AT KSAW BY 08Z WITH BACKING FLOW. HOWEVER...LOOK FOR MVFR CIGS TO PERSIST AT KSAW UNTIL LATER WED MORNING WHEN WINDS BACK FURTHER TO THE W OR SW...RESULTING IN BETTER DOWNSLOPING. AT KCMX...WINDS SHOULD REMAIN FAVORABLE FOR MAINTAIN MVFR CIGS TONIGHT THROUGH WED. EXPECT WARM ADVECTION SNOW TO SPREAD INTO AREA LATE WED AHEAD OF NEXT CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVING THROUGH THE NRN PLAINS/UPR GREAT LAKES. IFR VSBYS IN SNOW WILL REACH KCMX BY 21Z WITH MVFR CONDITIONS REACHING KSAW BY 23Z AND THEN LOWERING TO IFR BY 01Z. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRES RIDGE DRIFTING E AND REACHING LAKE SUPERIOR WED MORNING WILL RESULT IN A STEADY DIMINISHING OF WINDS FROM W TO E TONIGHT THRU WED MORNING. A PERIOD OF VARIABLE WINDS IN THE 5-15KT RANGE SHOULD OCCUR AS THE RIDGE PASSES. SRLY WINDS WILL THEN STRENGTHEN FROM W TO E WED AFTN INTO THE EVENING AHEAD OF APPROACHING LOW PRES. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER NRN MN WED EVENING WILL SHIFT EAST ACROSS NRN LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT INTO THU MORNING. SOUTH TO SW WINDS SHOULD APPROACH 30 KT AHEAD OF THE LOW...THEN SHIFT WEST TO NW AT ABOUT THE SAME SPEED BEHIND IT FOR THU. LOOK FOR WINDS TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH TO EVENTUALLY BELOW 20 KT BY EARLY FRI AFTN AS A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE CROSSES LAKE SUPERIOR. AS THE HIGH SHIFTS EAST FRI NIGHT...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE AGAIN...REACHING UP TO 30 KT BY SAT MORNING. FURTHER INCREASING IS EXPECTED ON SAT AS A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH SETS UP OVER FAR WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH GALES UP TO 35 KT ON EASTERN SUPERIOR POSSIBLE LATE SAT. THIS TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST INTO CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR ON SUN AND BECOME STATIONARY. WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO TURN NE BEHIND THE TROUGH WITH SPEEDS TO 30 KT. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 AM EST WEDNESDAY FOR MIZ005. LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM EST WEDNESDAY FOR MIZ006. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...VOSS SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...ROLFSON LONG TERM...AJ AVIATION...JV MARINE...ROLFSON/AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BINGHAMTON NY
1134 PM EST TUE DEC 9 2008 .SYNOPSIS... LOW PRESSURE TRACKING UP THE SAINT LAWRENCE RIVER VALLEY WILL SWING A COLD FRONT THROUGH THE AREA ON WEDNESDAY. RAIN WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA TONIGHT, AND TAPER OFF TO SNOW SHOWERS OR MIXED PRECIPITATION BEHIND THE FRONT ON WEDNESDAY. ANOTHER AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK UP THE EASTERN SEABOARD ON THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT WITH MORE WINTRY WEATHER. THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND ICE ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS NORTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA, AND THE SUSQUEHANNA REGION AND WESTERN CATSKILLS IN NEW YORK, WHERE WINTER STORM WATCHES HAVE BEEN POSTED. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... UPDATE TO SLOW THE ONSET IN NEPA AND SULLIVAN NY. TEMPERATURES STEADY TONIGHT. ADJUSTED WINDS DOWN BASED ON THIS EVES OBS. MINOR TWEEKS BUT NOTHING MAJOR FOR THE EVE UPDATE. THU/FRI FORECAST STILL HAS MUCH UNCERTAINTY. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... WOW. DAY 1-3 FCST DOES NOT GET MUCH MORE COMPLEX THAN THIS. TEMPS RISING RAPIDLY THIS AFTN AIDED BY SOME BREAKS IN THE CLDS...ANY PCPN WORKING INTO THE RGN TNGT WILL BE IN LIQUID FORM. CAT POPS STILL LOOK GOOD. TEMPS SLOWLY RISING THEN LEVELING OFF IN THE M40S MOST AREAS. GUSTY SRLY WINDS TNGT. && .SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... WE MADE VERY FEW CHGS TO WED`S FCST. WE DID INDICATE POTNL FOR A BRIEF PD OF SLEET DURING THE TRANSITION AFTER FROPA BASED ON PROFILES, BUT ANY -FZRA OR -IP SHUD BE SHORT LIVED ACRS UPSTATE...WITH MAIN TRANSITION RAIN TO SNOW. POTNL FOR AN INCH OR SO OF ACCUM TMRW ACRS PORTIONS OF UPSTATE NY. FALLING TEMPS. REAL FCST CHALLENGE LIES AFTER WED WITH SIG DIFFS IN THE MDLS W/RESPECT TO THE CSTL SYSTEM. MDLS HAVE HAD PRBLMS WITH THIS SYSTEM SINCE DAY 1 AND CONTINUE TO. NAM TAKEN VERBATIM GIVES AVP A DEVASTATING ICE STORM...BUT THIS SOLUTION LOOKS OVERDONE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. GFS COLDER AND SLOWER AND WOULD INDICATE MORE OF A SNOWSTORM FOR NE PA BUT GFS STILL INDICATES POTNL FOR ICE ACRS SE ZONES. BEST COURSE OF ACTION WAS TO BLEND THESE TWO AS REALITY WILL LIKELY BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. GIVEN THE ABV...AND FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT WE`LL SEE SOME TYPE OF WARNING SCENARIO ACRS OUR SE ZONES...WE DECIDED (IN COLLAB W/OUR NEIGHBORS) TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF THE SUSQ RGN/WRN CATSKILLS IN NY, AND ALL OF NE PA. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... LEANING WITH EXPERT HPC GUIDANCE TODAY...WHICH FOLLOWS CLOSELY WITH ECMWF NWP SUITE. LOW PRESSURE FROM THURS-FRI EVENT IS PROGGED TO BE WELL TO OUR NE BY FRIDAY NIGHT...WITH IMPROVING CONDITIONS ON NWLY WIND FLOW. COLDER TEMPS ALOFT WILL MEAN SOME LAKE SNOW SHOWERS FRIDAY NIGHT...BUT THEN HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN BY EARLY SATURDAY...AND LINGERS INTO MONDAY. EXPECTING A MILDER TURN OF EVENTS FOR THE UPCOMING WEEK WITH THE PATTERN SHIFT TO TROF WEST...RIDGE EAST. TEMPS LOOK NEAR TO SLGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL. COLD FRONT EARLY NEXT WEEK HAS TRENDED A BIT SLOWER...WITH SHOWERS NOW MAINLY FOR TUESDAY. MADE JUST A FEW CHANGES TO POPS OVER THE WEEKEND...TO SOFTEN THE CLIMO INFLUENCE. && .AVIATION /05Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... UPDATE AT 0430UTC TO ADD LLWS ALL SITES GIVEN LATEST ACARS AND KBGM VWP DATA WHICH IS IN LINE WITH OVERNIGHT MODEL GUIDANCE IN BRINGING 2KFT WINDS TO 40-50KTS /FROM THE SOUTHWEST/ OVERNIGHT WITH 10-20KTS AT THE SURFACE INDICATING THE POTENTIAL FOR AT LEAST 20KTS OF LLWS. SHEAR LIKELY HIGHEST AT KRME WHERE SURFACE WINDS ARE LIGHT NORTHERLY ATTM. SHEAR WILL SUBSIDE WITH APPROACH OF FRONT WEDNESDAY MORNING. AS OF 0400UTC UPDATED TAFS TO DELAY ONSET OF MVFR AND LATER IFR CONDITIONS. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS AT THE EARLY START OF THE TAF PERIOD THIS EVENING WILL DETERIORATE AS RAIN MOVES IN WITH A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. EXPECT CEILINGS TO DROP TO MVFR AND IFR AS SLUG OF RAINFALL IN WESTERN NY AND PA MOVES INTO THE REGION OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS. PROLONGED PERIOD OF IFR CEILINGS WITH IFR TO MVFR VISBY EXPECTED THRU THE OVERNIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING. PRECIP WILL CHANGE OVER TO SHSN FROM WEST TO EAST ACROSS MOST OF THE TAF SITES DURING THE AFTN...AND TAPER OFF TWD THE LATER PART OF THE TAF PERIOD WITH IMPROVEMENT TO MVFR EXPECTED. SWLY WINDS 10 TO 15 KTS WITH GUSTS TO 25 KTS AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT...WILL SHIFT TO NWLY IN THE AFTN BEHIND FROPA. OUTLOOK... WED NGT...VFR. AREAS MVFR IN LAKE SNOW SHOWERS UPSTATE NY. THU-FRI...MVFR/IFR. CHC FZRA/IP/SN. MIXED PCPN MOST LIKELY VCNTY KAVP-KBGM...SNOW MOST LIKELY WEST OF THERE. FRI NITE...VFR. AREAS MVFR VCNTY KSYR-KRME. SAT-SUN. VFR. NO SIG WX. && .BGM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING FOR PAZ038>040-043-044-047-048-072. NY...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING FOR NYZ045-046-055>057-062. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TAC NEAR TERM...TAC LONG TERM...JAB AVIATION...JMA

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
557 AM CST WED DEC 10 2008 .DISCUSSION... 335 AM CST MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS INCLUDE LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS THIS MORNING...THE NEXT CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS THURSDAY NIGHT...AND THEN THE RATE OF TEMPERATURE MODERATION FOR THE WEEKEND. SATELLITE IMAGERY/SURFACE OBSERVATIONS STILL INDICATING SOME LOW CLOUDS ACROSS FAR NORTHEAST ILLINOIS INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA WITH NORTHERLY FLOW OFF LAKE MICHIGAN. A BAND OF SNOW SHOWERS OFF LAKE MICHIGAN WHICH AFFECTED SOUTHERN COOK COUNTY OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS HAS SHIFTED EASTWARD INTO PORTER COUNTY. PARAMETERS FOR LAKE EFFECT VERY UNDERWHELMING WITH ACARS SOUNDINGS NEAR ORD INDICATING 850 HPA TEMPS OF -6 DEG CELS...AND NOT EXPECTING LOW LEVELS TO GET SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER THIS MORNING WITH STRONGER LOW LEVEL CAA REMAINING TO THE NORTH. SHOULD GRADUALLY SEE BACK EDGE OF LOW CLOUDS SLIDE FURTHER EASTWARD THIS MORNING...POSSIBLY LINGERING THROUGH MIDDAY ACROSS FAR SOUTHEAST COOK/EASTERN WILL AND NWRN INDIANA COUNTIES. WILL MAINTAIN MENTION OF SOME SCATTERED LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES THIS MORNING ACROSS NWRN INDIANA. ELSEWHERE EXPECTING SUNNY SKIES THIS MORNING TO GIVE WAY TO INCREASING HIGH CLOUDINESS THIS AFTERNOON. AN ELONGATED SURFACE RIDGE AXIS EXTENDING FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MS RVR VALLEY WILL TRACK ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS THIS AFTERNOON RESULTING IN DIMINISHING WINDS THROUGH THE DAY. POOR MIXING AND FRESH SNOW COVER WILL MAKE FOR A COLD DAY ACROSS THE AREAS WITH HIGHS RANGING FROM THE LOWER TO MID 20S ACROSS FAR NORTHERN ILLINOIS...TO THE LOWER 30S FAR SOUTH. NEXT FAST MOVING SYSTEM/UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK WILL TRACK INTO NORTHERN/CENTRAL WISCONSIN BY THIS EVENING WITH FAIRLY STRONG PRESSURE FALLS NOTED IN STRONG WARM ADVECTION ZONE ACROSS THE DAKOTAS. STRONGER LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE IS ALREADY SITUATED TO THE NORTH OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...AND THUS WAA/ISENTROPIC LIFT IN ADVANCE OF THIS SHEARED SYSTEM WILL REMAIN TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA AND WILL KEEP FORECAST DRY THROUGH TONIGHT. ON THURSDAY...MODELS HAVE COME AROUND TO GOOD AGREEMENT IN NEXT VORT MAX DIGGING A BIT FURTHER SOUTH WITH A BETTER PUSH OF COLD ADVECTION INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS OVERNIGHT. GIVEN TRACK OF THIS VORT AND STRONG CAA...SOME SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES SEEM LIKE A GOOD BET. WILL INTRODUCE A CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS AT THIS TIME FOR THURSDAY NIGHT. WITH TREND IN MODELS TO TAKE STRONGER COLD ADVECTION A BIT FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS FOR THURSDAY NIGHT/FRIDAY MORNING...AND NEW SNOW COVER FROM YESTERDAY...HAVE LOWERED MAX TEMPS A BIT FOR FRIDAY INTO THE LOWER 20S FAR NORTH TO AROUND 30 SOUTH. SHORT WAVE RIDGING WILL BEGIN TO BUILD INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS FRIDAY NIGHT WITH UPPER LEVEL PATTERN SHIFT AS A BROAD UPPER TROUGH WILL DIG INTO THE WESTERN CONUS. THIS WILL SET UP A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE REGION WITH DEEP LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL RESULT IN MODERATING TEMPS THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH HIGHS BY SUNDAY INTO THE 40S MOST LOCATIONS. GFS/ECMWF SHOWING SOME DIFFERENCES IN HANDLING PROGRESSION OF LEAD SHORT WAVE INTO SOUTHWEST ONTARIO SUNDAY...BUT PRECIP CHANCES WILL INCREASE BY LATE SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW WILL OCCUR EARLY IN THE WEEK WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE AND WITH SOME LINGERING TIMING UNCERTAINTIES AT THIS FORECAST DISTANCE...STILL MUCH TOO EARLY TO TRY AND GET TOO DETAILED CONCERNING PRECIP TYPES. MARSILI && .AVIATION... 557 AM CST 1200 UTC TAFS...MAIN SHORT TERM FORECAST ISSUE IS LINGERING MVFR LAKE INDUCED STRATOCU ACROSS CHICAGO TERMINALS. SURFACE OBS/GOES 11-3.9 MICRON IR IMAGERY DEPICTS STRATOCU EXTENDING FROM KENW TO KDPA THIS MORNING...WITH BASES OBSERVED IN 1200-1800 FOOT RANGE. RECENT ACARS DESCENT SOUNDING FROM KORD AT 11Z SHOWS NORTHEAST WINDS AT/ABOVE 950 HPA...WITH STEEP LAPSE RATES BELOW SHALLOW INVERSION LAYER WHEN MODIFIED FOR LAKE SURFACE CONDITIONS. 09Z RUC FORECAST SOUNDINGS SEEM TO CAPTURE THIS FAIRLY WELL...WITH TREND TOWARD WEAKENING/BACKING LOW LEVEL WIND PROFILE THROUGH 18Z TODAY. IR IMAGERY ALSO HINTS AT SOME EROSION ALONG WESTERN PERIPHERY OF CLOUD DECK ACROSS LAKE/WESTERN COOK COUNTY SO SUSPECT THIS STRATOCU WILL SHIFT EAST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. BASED ON THIS WILL MAINTAIN A MENTION THROUGH 14Z AT KDPA/15Z KORD/16Z KMDW. A FEW FLURRIES REPORTED FARTHER NORTH AT KENW/KRAC THOUGH DRY MID LEVELS AND SHALLOW INVERSION HEIGHT ARGUE AGAINST ANY REAL PRECIP THREAT. NEXT CLIPPER TYPE SHORT WAVE ALREADY NOTED IN SATELLITE IMAGERY DIGGING SOUTHEAST INTO THE DAKOTAS THIS MORNING. CIRRUS SHIELD ALREADY SPREADING ACROSS THE PLAINS AND WILL MOVE QUICKLY INTO MIDWEST THIS AFTERNOON WITH A PERIOD OF BROKEN/OVERCAST MID/HIGH CLOUDS THROUGH THIS EVENING. SOME INDICATION OF MVFR DECK RETURNING THURSDAY MORNING AT END OF KORD 30 HOUR PERIOD THOUGH CONFIDENCE LOW AT THIS TIME. AS FOR WINDS...GRADIENT HAS WEAKENED STEADILY OVERNIGHT AS SURFACE LOW MOVED OFF TO THE EAST. GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE TO WEAKEN TODAY AS SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE MOVES INTO THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON. NORTH WINDS 10-15 KNOTS EARLY WILL DECREASE TO LESS THAN 10 KNOTS BY AFTERNOON...EVENTUALLY BACKING MORE WEST OR JUST GOING VARIABLE IN VICINITY OF RIDGE BY EVENING. THEN LIGHT SOUTHWEST LESS THAN 10 KNOTS OVERNIGHT. RATZER && .MARINE... 352 AM CST LOW PRESSURE CONTINUES TO PULL AWAY TO THE EAST ACROSS NEW ENGLAND THIS MORNING...ALLOWING SURFACE PRESSURE GRADIENT TO SLOWLY RELAX AS HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. GALE WARNING HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO EXPIRE AS OBSERVATIONS ON SOUTH END OF LAKE NOW SHOWING GUSTS NOW TOPPING OUT AROUND 30 KNOTS. HAVE ISSUED SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR IL/IND NEARSHORE ZONES WHICH WILL GO THROUGH 6 PM CST AS WINDS EXPECTED TO DIMINISH FAIRLY STEADILY THROUGH THE MORNING...BUT WAVES EXPECTED TO BE SLOWER TO SUBSIDE AFTER PERIOD OF STRONG NORTH FETCH. HIGH PRESSURE THEN MOVES ACROSS THE LAKE LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING...WHILE ANOTHER AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVES FROM THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN PRAIRIES TO LAKE SUPERIOR BY THURSDAY MORNING. THIS LOW WILL DEEPEN AS IT THEN LIFTS NORTHEAST TO NEAR JAMES BAY THURSDAY NIGHT...WHILE WEAK HIGH PRESSURE MOVES ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES FRIDAY. DEEPER LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE PLAINS SATURDAY...WITH STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT LIKELY LEADING TO SOUTH GALES ON LAKE MICHIGAN THIS WEEKEND. RATZER && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 6 PM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
600 AM EST WED DEC 10 2008 .AVIATION... DISCUSSION FOR 12Z TAFS. LOW LEVEL CAA IN WAKE OF A SLOW MOVING SFC LOW NOW ACROSS KY WILL PUSH PRECIP TO THE SOUTH OF THE TAF SITES THIS AM. HOWEVER THE LONGWAVE TROUGH REMAINS TO OUR SW SO ADDITIONAL ENERGY WILL BE TAKING AIM AT THE AREA WHICH COULD RESULT IN ADDITIONAL PRECIP ACROSS SOUTHERN INDIANA INCLUDE PERHAPS BMG THROUGH MIDDAY. MEANWHILE...DRIER NE SFC FLOW COULD ACT TO ERODE THE STRATUS FASTER THAN MOS INDICATES AT LAF AND SAT LOOPS SUGGEST THIS SCENARIO IS POSSIBLE. I WILL END MVFR CONDS EARLIEST AT LAF AND HUF WHILE KEEPING MVFR CIGS AT IND/BMG LONGEST TODAY. NNE SFC WINDS COULD ALSO CONTINUE GUSTING TO AROUND 20-24KTS PER BUFKIT WINDS ATOP THE MIXING LAYER TODAY. CONDS SHOULD BECOME VFR AT ALL SITES AFTER 00Z TONIGHT. && .DISCUSSION... FORECAST FOCUS ON THE TEMPERATURES THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS DURING A STRETCH OF QUIET WEATHER. THE EARLY MORNING SURFACE MAP TODAY SHOWS A FRONTAL BOUNDARY STRETCHING FROM LAKE ONTARIO SOUTHWARD THROUGH WESTERN OHIO...THEN THROUGH TENNESSEE AND INTO CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI. HIGH PRESSURE WAS CENTERED ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND COVERED MUCH OF THE NATIONS MIDSECTION. ALOFT AT H5 THE CHARACTER OF THE MID LEVEL PATTERN WAS RIDGING OFF EITHER COAST WITH SHARP TROUGHING IN THE MIDDLE...EXTENDING ROUGHLY FROM THE NORTHERN LAKES SOUTHWESTWARD INTO WEST TEXAS. THE MODELS AND GUIDANCE ARE VERY SIMILAR IN THE FIRST THREE DAYS OF THE FORECAST. A BLEND WAS USED. FOR THIS MORNING THE ONLY QUESTION WILL BE ON LINGERING POPS. PTYPE HAS NOT BEEN THE FACTOR IT WAS EXPECTED TO BE. SOUNDING SHOW A VERY SHALLOW COLD LAYER HAS ADVECTED IN...BUT WITH THE MID LEVEL TROUGH STILL TO THE WEST...THERE IS A STOUT INVERSION WITH H8 TEMPS NEAR +5C PER RECENT MDCRS SOUNDINGS. PRECIP IS ENDING QUICKLY FROM WEST TO EAST. SO THE CHANCE IN THE FAR EAST FOR A FEW HOURS PAST 12Z LOOKS GOOD...AND WILL LEAVE AS A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW AS A FEW ASOS OBS THIS MORNING INDICATE SUCH A MIX. BY 18Z THE H5 TROUGH WILL BE PASSING THE AREA. THIS SHOULD KEEP OUR SKIES PARTLY CLOUDY AND THEN ALLOW FOR COLDER AIR ALOFT TO WORK IN. HIGHS TODAY SHOULD REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE 30S. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO FALL A FEW HOURS THIS MORNING THROUGH 15Z OR SO...BUT THEN RECOVER AS THE SKY IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE OVERCAST. TONIGHT SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN. THE SOUTHERN END OF THE H5 TROUGH WILL DEEPEN RAPIDLY ALONG THE GULF COAST AND START TO DEVELOP A SIGNIFICANT COASTAL LOW WHICH WILL NOT IMPACT THE WEATHER IN INDIANA. INSTEAD HERE THE SKIES WILL BE PARTIALLY CLEAR AND WINDS WILL DIMINISH TO ALLOW A COLD NIGHT IN THE TEENS AND LOW 20S. FOR THE DAY ON THURSDAY SOME COLDER AIR WILL TRY TO WORK IN BUT SHOULD BY AND LARGE STAY WELL TO THE NORTH OF INDIANA. THERE WILL BE GENERALLY A CYCLONIC FLOW IN PLACE WHICH SHOULD KEEP SOME CLOUDINESS. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE 30S AGAIN WITH H8 VALUES AROUND -4C. ANOTHER CHILLY NIGHT THURSDAY NIGHT AS COLD ADVECTION BRINGS H8 TEMPS TO NEAR -8C. THE GFS SHOWS SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND EARLY FRIDAY WITH A VORT MAX CROSSING THE AREA IN THE BASE OF THE CANADIAN TROUGH. THE NAM REMAINS DRY DURING THIS PERIOD. THIS WILL PROBABLY BE FLURRIES IF IT AS IS DEPICTED NOW SINCE THERE IS NOT REALLY ANY MOISTURE FOR THIS SYSTEM. WILL NOT MENTION PRECIP IN THIS PACKAGE BUT HAVE THE 14 POPS IN PLACE ACROSS THE NORTH. FRIDAY SHOULD BRING A COLDER DAY AS A SURFACE HIGH DRIFTS OVERHEAD. WILL EXPECT HIGHS A FEW DEGREES COLDER THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO DAYS AS H8 VALUES FLIRT WITH -10C IN A POORLY MIXED ATMOSPHERE WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN. PATTERN WILL SHARPLY MODERATE THIS WEEKEND AS A STRONG PACIFIC TROUGH FORCES H5 RIDGING ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND EAST COAST. A DEEP SURFACE CYCLONE SHOULD TRACK UP THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND PUSH WARM AIR INTO INDIANA WITH H8 TEMPS NEAR +6C BY SUNDAY. WILL EXPECT HIGHS BACK INTO THE 50S DURING THIS TIME. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ AVIATION...CO PUBLIC...JOHNSON