Re: your command request > get basinsinfo 20080401-20080430 Here are the messages between 20080401 and 20080430. 1. Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# 2. Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# 3. PLOAD error 4. Installing HSPEXP 5. Re: Installing HSPEXP 6. Re: Installing HSPEXP 7. ASCII Output from BASINS/HSPF 8. Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF 9. sediment diversion option 10. RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF 11. RE: sediment diversion option 12. Environmental Specialist Senior (Watershed Improvement) 13. WinHSPF / PEST error 14. RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF 15. RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF 16. RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF 17. HSPEXP Crash 18. Re: WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM 19. using the HSPF Bacterial Tool 20. Re: HSPEXP Crash 21. Re: HSPEXP Crash 22. BASINS/MapWindow Plug-in Writing Contest... 23. RE: WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM 24. RE: HSPEXP Crash 25. Open Source or Not? 26. RE: HSPEXP Crash 27. RE: Open Source or Not? 28. Re: Open Source or Not? 29. BASINS Met WDM Data Update 30. Single Sewer systems in HSPF? 31. Double checking spatial distribution. 32. RE: Single Sewer systems in HSPF? 33. RE: Double checking spatial distribution. 34. RE: Single Sewer systems in HSPF? 35. RE: Single Sewer systems in HSPF? 36. Re: BASINS Met WDM Data Update 37. RE: Open Source or Not? 38. RE: Open Source or Not? 39. RE: Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF 40. PLOAD point sources 41. Research Associate Opportunity 42. What's wrong with Surfer 7 grid and basins 4 readings ? 43. RE: Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF 44. RE: Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF 45. RE:Error while running HSPF - Array subscripts exceeds allocated area 46. RE: Error while running HSPF - Array subscripts exceeds allocated area 47. The Climate Assessment Tool 48. RE: BASINS NED Data Download 49. WinHSPF - PEST Linkage 50. RE:BASINS NED Data Download ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 1 X-lyris-Id: 168054 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:35:25 -0400 From: "Jon Butcher" Subject: Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and output for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run. The file unit number for the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit number. If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run. If it provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of the uci file) you will need this file. If it is only storing output (i.e., referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along with the FILES block reference. As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is check that it is not write protected. This sometimes happens when a file is stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitely prevent the file from opening successfully. The wdm should open in WDMUtil entirely independent of any .uci file. Another, less pleasant possibility, is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed... Jon Butcher Tetra Tech ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Private list for BASINS users" Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# > Hi, > > I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco area > watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am an > undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have the > .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sections of > the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one > pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file. > > When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an > error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan > filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm file > referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as opposed to > the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containing > data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of code > to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking that > it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the UN# > unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the correct > value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to comment > out the WDM line in the FILES block. > > Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the code? > > Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompanying > text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil gave > me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' a > WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first? > > Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input. > > - Peter > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 2 X-lyris-Id: 168056 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:24:09 -0400 From: Liz_Scheessele@URSCorp.com Subject: Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# --0__=0ABBFE8DDFD075A18f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE8DDFD075A1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; Boundary="1__=0ABBFE8DDFD075A18f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE8DDFD075A1" --1__=0ABBFE8DDFD075A18f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE8DDFD075A1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I've also found that I am unable to open a *.wdm file UNLESS I have pla= ced it on my hard drive (as opposed to a network or CD drive, etc.) Theref= ore, I find it easiest to place the *.wdm within the BASINS folder. Liz Liz Scheessele Project Engineer URS Corporation 277 Bendix Rd. Suite 500 Virginia Beach, VA 23452 757-499-4224 ext. 1266 = This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you receive this = message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should not ret= ain, distribute, disclose or use any of this information and you should des= troy the e-mail and any attachments or copies. = = = "Jon Butcher" = = = To 03/31/2008 10:35 PM "Private list for BASINS = users" = = Please respond to = cc "Private list for = BASINS users" Subj= ect 2004 HSPF model run - WDM = Error - UN# = = = = = = = The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and out= put for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run. The file unit numbe= r for the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit numbe= r. If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run. If it provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of = the uci file) you will need this file. If it is only storing output (i.e.,= referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you= comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along= with the FILES block reference. As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is c= heck that it is not write protected. This sometimes happens when a file is stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitel= y prevent the file from opening successfully. The wdm should open in WDM= Util entirely independent of any .uci file. Another, less pleasant possibil= ity, is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed... Jon Butcher Tetra Tech ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Private list for BASINS users" Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN= # > Hi, > > I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco = area > watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am a= n > undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have= the > .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sectio= ns of > the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one > pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file. > > When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an= > error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan > filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm= file > referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as oppos= ed to > the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containi= ng > data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of c= ode > to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking= that > it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the U= N# > unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the correct > value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to comment > out the WDM line in the FILES block. > > Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the code? > > Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompany= ing > text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil g= ave > me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' = a > WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first? > > Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input. > > - Peter > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa= .gov > ------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. 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I've also found that I am unable to open a *.wdm fi= le UNLESS I have placed it on my hard drive (as opposed to a network or= CD drive, etc.) Therefore, I find it easiest to place the *.wdm withi= n the BASINS folder.
Liz

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The wdm file is a binary data storage file that ca= n store input and output
for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run.  The file unit = number for
the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not <= br> conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit numbe= r.
If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run.  If = it
provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of = the
uci file) you will need this file.  If it is only storing output (= i.e.,
referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you=
comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along= with
the FILES block reference.
As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is c= heck
that it is not write protected.  This sometimes happens when a fil= e is
stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitel= y
prevent the file from opening successfully.  The wdm should open i= n WDMUtil
entirely independent of any .uci file.  Another, less pleasant pos= sibility,
is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed...<= br> Jon Butcher
Tetra Tech
----- Original Message -----
From: <plapal1@umbc.edu>
To: "Private list for BASINS users" <basinsinfo@lists.epa.= gov>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN= #


> Hi,
>
> I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Pataps= co area
> watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I a= m an
> undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I h= ave the
> .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sec= tions of
> the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have on= e
> pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file.
>
> When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received= an
> error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan > filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The = wdm file
> referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as op= posed to
> the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master conta= ining
> data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line o= f code
> to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am think= ing that
> it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left th= e UN#
> unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the= correct
> value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to= comment
> out the WDM line in the FILES block.
>
> Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in t= he code?
>
> Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accomp= anying
> text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUti= l gave
> me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'ru= n' a
> WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first?
>
> Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input.
>
> - Peter
>
>
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Latha=20 Chandrasekaran
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C894DF.131CFE06-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 4 X-lyris-Id: 168147 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:33:10 -0000 From: "Mery Apple" Subject: Installing HSPEXP I am trying to install HSPEXP on my computer. I am following the steps outlined in Appendix D. I have downloaded HSPEXP from the web and saved it in c:\basins\models\hspexp. I then extract the files, but when I try to use the "install" command from the DOS prompt I get a message that "install" is not recognized as a command. Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong? Thank you advanced for any help you can share. Mery Apple ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graduate Research Assistant University of Hawai'i at Manoa Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 1910 East-West Road Sherman Lab, Room 241 Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 Email: mery@hawaii.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 5 X-lyris-Id: 168149 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:19:01 -0400 From: Kate Flynn Subject: Re: Installing HSPEXP This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006F9B978525741F_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" hspexp has been updated since Appendix D was written. The current version of hspexp is 2.4. Appendix D was written for an earlier version, 2.3. To install hspexp, you should be able to simply click on the distribution file (hspexp2_4.exe) and follow the installation instructions. There is no separate install step. If you want the program in the Basins directory structure, be sure to specify that when you are asked where to install the program. Kate Flynn U.S. Geological Survey Office of Surface Water "Mery Apple" 04/02/2008 03:33 PM Please respond to "Private list for BASINS users" To "Private list for BASINS users" cc Subject [basinsinfo] Installing HSPEXP I am trying to install HSPEXP on my computer. I am following the steps outlined in Appendix D. I have downloaded HSPEXP from the web and saved it in c:\basins\models\hspexp. I then extract the files, but when I try to use the "install" command from the DOS prompt I get a message that "install" is not recognized as a command. Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong? Thank you advanced for any help you can share. Mery Apple ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graduate Research Assistant University of Hawai'i at Manoa Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 1910 East-West Road Sherman Lab, Room 241 Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 Email: mery@hawaii.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ --=_alternative 006F9B978525741F_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
hspexp has been updated since Appendix D was written.  The current version of hspexp is 2.4.  Appendix D was written for an earlier version, 2.3.  To install hspexp, you should be able to simply click on the distribution file (hspexp2_4.exe) and follow the installation instructions.  There is no separate install step.  If you want the program in the Basins directory structure, be sure to specify that when you are asked where to install the program.  

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I am trying to install HSPEXP on my computer.  I am following the steps outlined in Appendix D.  I have downloaded HSPEXP from the web and saved it in c:\basins\models\hspexp.  I then extract the files, but when I try to use the "install" command from the DOS prompt I get a message that "install" is not recognized as a command.  

Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong?  Thank you advanced for any help you can share.

Mery Apple
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Graduate Research Assistant
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Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM)
1910 East-West Road
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Email: mery@hawaii.edu
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--=_alternative 006F9B978525741F_=-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 6 X-lyris-Id: 168153 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:56:32 -0400 (EDT) From: plapal1@umbc.edu Subject: Re: Installing HSPEXP Mery, I am not sure if this is relevant, because my problem with HSPEXP was a bit different. I had no problem installing the software but running it did not work properly. The steps I took to correct it may or may not help, so good luck: a) found a newer version of hspexp http://water.usgs.gov/software/HSPexp/ b) found instructions for installing hspexp2_4.exe http://water.usgs.gov/software/HSPexp/code/2.4/DOS/README.TXT c) download and install hspexp2_4 to C:\Basins d) to run: Start > Run > Type ?cmd? > Enter . Type ?hspexp? - Peter UMBC - TRC - CUERE \ BES LTER - Urban Hydrology > I am trying to install HSPEXP on my computer. I am following the steps > outlined in Appendix D. I have downloaded HSPEXP from the web and saved > it in c:\basins\models\hspexp. I then extract the files, but when I try > to use the "install" command from the DOS prompt I get a message that > "install" is not recognized as a command. > > Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong? Thank you advanced for any > help you can share. > > Mery Apple > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Graduate Research Assistant > University of Hawai'i at Manoa > Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) > 1910 East-West Road > Sherman Lab, Room 241 > Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 > Email: mery@hawaii.edu > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 7 X-lyris-Id: 168188 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:11:43 -0400 From: "Chin, David A." Subject: ASCII Output from BASINS/HSPF Is there an easy way to specify ASCII output (to a file) of the variables s= elected in the WinHSPF output manager? Thanks, David Chin ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 8 X-lyris-Id: 168245 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:27:29 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF --_71cbfa58-0b5c-4460-9f57-428e2cbc438b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PE= RLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results a= t all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value an= d the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND = module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules. However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and RCHRES t= o the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway.=20 If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? (I = have tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up). =20 Sincerely/Emma Radahl _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=3D7+wonders+world&mkt=3Den-US&form=3DQ= BRE= --_71cbfa58-0b5c-4460-9f57-428e2cbc438b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PE= RLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results a= t all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value an= d the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PE= RLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules.
However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and RCHRES t= o the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? (I = have tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up).
 
Sincerely/Emma Radahl

Explore the seven wonders of the world= Learn more! = --_71cbfa58-0b5c-4460-9f57-428e2cbc438b_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 9 X-lyris-Id: 168247 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:48:54 -0700 From: "Pak, Jay H HEC" Subject: sediment diversion option Hello, Is there a sediment diversion option or way for each grain size (clay, = silt, sand and gravel) from the main channel to diversion channels in HSPF? Thanks,=20 Jay Pak ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 10 X-lyris-Id: 168250 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8967E.00E25D84 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 2BEBF641-B05E-4536-99B5-675B3E1BD67B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emma, =20 The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are summarized in the "print" (text) output file. =20 There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN). =20 The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) defines all of the entries in those tables, if you want to=20 understand what they do. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:27 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF =20 I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules. However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway.=20 If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? (I have tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up). =20 Sincerely/Emma Radahl ________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8967E.00E25D84 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 18C0910F-8628-48F7-8464-F90A80661EE6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Emma,

 

The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the = results are summarized in the “print” (text) output file.  =

There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in = results written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).

 

The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) = defines all of the entries in those tables, if you want to

understand what they do.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in = HSPF

 

I have a question about HSPF; the = values input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have = any effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had by mistake = changed the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value describing how often = output is written in the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES = modules.
However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and = RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. =
If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? = (I have tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up).
 
Sincerely/Emma Radahl

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C8967E.00E25D84-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 11 X-lyris-Id: 168251 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:22:50 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: sediment diversion option Jay, Normally, there is no way for a diversion exit to preferentially capture different grain sizes. The exit-by-exit output variables for suspended sediment OSED(1-3,*) are divided essentially proportional to flow. You could try doing some tricks with the MASS-LINK blocks to alter this, but I've never done this - you'd have to try it yourself and see if the results seem reasonable.=20 For example, say you have are diverting one RCHRES to another with a pump that has a relatively high=20 intake that you expect to take up less sand and more clay than the flow division would indicate, while the remainder of the flow goes downstream. The SCHEMATIC would keep its two lines simply connecting the two upstream exits to the appropriate receiving reach, but instead of simple one-line mass-links=20 for each exit: RCHRES OFLOW 1 -> RCHRES INFLOW and RCHRES OFLOW 2 -> RCHRES INFLOW for diversion and downstream exits respectively, you could route the sediment explicitly with constant fractions like this: RCHRES OVOL 1 -> RCHRES IVOL RCHRES ROSED 1 * 0.10 -> RCHRES ISED 1 RCHRES ROSED 2 * 0.20 -> RCHRES ISED 2 RCHRES ROSED 3 * 0.35 -> RCHRES ISED 3 and RCHRES OVOL 2 -> RCHRES IVOL RCHRES ROSED 1 * 0.90 -> RCHRES ISED 1 RCHRES ROSED 2 * 0.80 -> RCHRES ISED 2 RCHRES ROSED 3 * 0.65 -> RCHRES ISED 3 Note that the fractions above are completely made up, but do need to sum to 1.0 for each fraction. They would=20 have to be estimated on a site-specific basis. If something more complicated than constant fractions are necessary, you could try some combination of GENER and SPEC-ACTIONS to estimate the sediment split as a function of flow, for example. This could get complicated quickly, so you want to be sure it's worth the effort to avoid the default behavior. I don't know if this idea would help you for your particular situation - it's just a quick brainstorm. Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Pak, Jay H HEC [mailto:Jay.Pak@usace.army.mil]=20 Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:49 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] sediment diversion option Hello, Is there a sediment diversion option or way for each grain size (clay, silt, sand and gravel) from the main channel to diversion channels in HSPF? Thanks,=20 Jay Pak ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 12 X-lyris-Id: 168256 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:48:44 -0500 From: "Ikenberry, Charles [DNR]" Subject: Environmental Specialist Senior (Watershed Improvement) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8967C.1FE38945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JOB DESCRIPTION: The Water Improvement Section of the Department's Environmental Services Division has an opening for an Environmental Specialist Senior. Duties include: =20 Functions as the TMDL Program Coordinator and lead worker, assists supervisor by instructing employees, mentoring and training TMDL Program staff, answering questions and distributing, balancing and checking work; may make suggestions on selection, promotions and reassignments. Provides overall day-to-day coordination for the department's TMDL program including project distribution and development, data management, public hearing coordination and submission of required documents. =20 * Develops and executes plans to continuously improve the quality and timeliness of the work of the TMDL Program team members. Working with the section supervisor, sets productivity and quality goals, and monitors efforts to meet those targets. Distributes TMDL projects fairly and in such a way that utilizes staff skills to the program's best advantage. The workload should also be assigned in such a way that it will ensure all timelines are met.=20 * Provides opportunity for staff collaboration to discuss complex issues and ultimately offers alternatives and/or solutions for more complex issues during TMDL development. Practices techniques that facilitate a positive teamwork environment. * Works with other staff to implement the process of obtaining adequate water quality data and information to support TMDL development and implementation. Coordinates the development of the annual TMDL monitoring plan to ensure appropriate data is collected in a timely manner to support SI process and TMDL modeling needs. Guides the TMDL staff in the calculation of maximum pollutant loads and appropriate targets for impaired waters. Ensures consistency in all data collection and modeling applications. * Organizes and coordinates stakeholder meetings and performs related administrative tasks relative to public involvement in the TMDL document development and completion process. Works with staff to determine the scope and number of public meetings. Arranges for public notification and scheduling of meetings. Prepares response letters to written public comments on draft TMDLs and coordinates with TMDL staff to ensure relevant comments are incorporated into final TMDLs, as appropriate. Ensures that all written comments and official responses are attached as an appendix to the final TMDL. * Reviews and amends TMDL documents prepared by staff prior to submittal to EPA to ensure that technical information used is clear and concise and all required aspects of the TMDL document are included and defensible, including proper use of the TMDL Template and Style Guide. Manages the internal peer review process for all draft TMDLs. Coordinates with EPA during the development and finalization of TMDLs and submits final TMDL documents to EPA for approval.=20 *=09 Maintains and increases internal and external stakeholder support, collaboration and commitment to the TMDL program. This includes but is not limited to: * Strengthens the TMDL Program's outreach efforts and mentors TMDL staff in using effective outreach strategies. Responds to media requests regarding the TMDL Program and specific TMDL reports. * Annually updates and extends the 5-year priority list of targeted TMDLs to be completed, using a collaborative and inclusive internal and external stakeholder process. * Coordinates and leads TMDL outreach efforts in a way that encourages stakeholder involvement and ownership in TMDL development and resultant watershed planning and implementation. Develops and maintains positive working relationships with stakeholders. *=09 Is responsible for coordinating development of TMDL implementation plans and subsequent local watershed plans. This includes but is not limited to: * Provides work direction for TMDL Program staff to develop TMDL implementation plans. =20 * Coordinates with Watershed Improvement Section Nonpoint Source Program staff, Lake Restoration Program staff, other appropriate DNR staff, and staff from other federal, state and local agencies interested in implementing EPA approved TMDL documents. Coordinates development of implementation plans for TMDL projects in consultation with other department staff and stakeholder groups as identified in the TMDL project plan. * Facilitates the development and implementation of locally-led watershed planning processes, as needed. Watershed plans should be developed for implementing EPA-approved TMDL documents in cases where there is local stakeholder interest and commitment to pursue water quality improvement plans. ~DNRPOST~ =20 ABILITIES AND SKILLS: Requires ability to meet requirements for DAS Selective Certification Environmental Health or Science (183) and Water Resources (762). Understanding of GIS capability regarding digital elevation models, land use coverages, and soil types is necessary. Requires experience preparing TMDL documents, good analytical skills, and a thorough knowledge and familiarity with EPA TMDL guidance and requirements. Ability to describe complex technical processes in terms understandable by the general public; ability to develop and maintain effective working relationships with staff, other state and federal agencies, agricultural and environmental interests, the regulated public, industry professionals and local stakeholders; ability to lead technical and non-technical groups of both internal staff and external stakeholders; ability to use accepted procedures to measure progress toward goals; ability to develop, read, comprehend laws, rules, policies and position papers related to TMDLs, water quality assessments and water quality standards; ability to use computers and database computer software products for the purposes of data management and generating reports, presentations, tables, and charts; ability to produce quality work products in a timely manner; ability to effectively communicate, both orally and in written work products; ability to write documents that clearly communicate program ideas, goals and objectives; capacity to adjust to change, work pressures or difficult situations without undue stress; must demonstrate initiative, a customer service and team orientation and display high standards of ethical conduct. Position is a full-time position and as such, requires regular attendance. Ability to travel with some overnight stays.. =20 =20 Education, Experience and Special Requirements: Applicants must meet the minimum requirements for an Environmental Specialist Senior based on education, experience and special requirements, or an acceptable combination thereof, as established by the Department of Administrative Services. Applicants must also qualify for DAS Selective Certifications: #183 - Environmental Health or Science AND #762 - Water Resources. =20 HOW TO APPLY: =20 Step 1: Interested applicants must submit a State of Iowa application form for this position by the close of business on April 30th, 2008. Application forms are available from the Iowa Department of Administrative Services' (DAS) web page at www.das.hre.iowa.gov , from any Workforce Development Center, or at the DAS-HRE office in Des Moines. Completed applications must be submitted through the DAS web page or faxed to DAS at 515-281-7970. You must include the job title and job vacancy number on all applications. =20 Step 2: In addition, in order to be considered for this position,=20 =20 A. You must upload a copy of your cover letter, resume and three business references to DAS during the application process. =20 OR=20 =20 B. Email a copy of the materials to allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov or send a hard copy of the requested materials to: Allen Bonini, Supervisor, Water Improvement Section, Iowa Department of Natural Resources, Wallace Building, 502 East 9th Street, Des Moines, IA, 50319. The requested materials must be received within 48 hours (excluding weekends and State holidays) of the closing date. Please be precise when outlining your experience as related to the position and any selective(s) noted. Failure to follow these instructions will disqualify you from consideration for this position. For more information about this position, contact Allen Bonini at 515-281-5107 or allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov . =20 The State of Iowa is an EEO/AA EMPLOYER =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8967C.1FE38945 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

JOB = DESCRIPTION:  The Water Improvement Section of the Department’s Environmental Services = Division has an opening for an Environmental Specialist Senior.  Duties = include:

 

Functions as the TMDL = Program Coordinator and lead worker, assists supervisor by instructing = employees, mentoring and training TMDL Program staff, answering questions and distributing, balancing and checking work; may make suggestions on = selection, promotions and reassignments.  Provides overall day-to-day = coordination for the department’s TMDL program including project distribution and = development, data management, public hearing coordination and submission of required documents.

 

  • Develops and executes plans to continuously = improve the quality and timeliness of the work of the TMDL Program team = members. Working with the section supervisor, sets productivity and quality = goals, and monitors efforts to meet those targets. Distributes TMDL = projects fairly and in such a way that utilizes staff skills to the = program’s best advantage.  The workload should also be assigned in such = a way that it will ensure all timelines are met. =
  • Provides opportunity for staff collaboration to = discuss complex issues and ultimately offers alternatives and/or solutions = for more complex issues during TMDL development. Practices techniques = that facilitate a positive teamwork = environment.
  • Works with other staff to implement the process = of obtaining adequate water quality data and information to support TMDL = development and implementation. Coordinates the development of the annual TMDL monitoring plan to ensure appropriate data is collected in a timely = manner to support SI process and TMDL modeling needs.  Guides the = TMDL staff in the calculation of maximum pollutant loads and appropriate targets = for impaired waters.  Ensures consistency in all data collection = and modeling applications.
  • Organizes and coordinates stakeholder meetings = and performs related administrative tasks relative to public = involvement in the TMDL document development and completion process.  Works = with staff to determine the scope and number of public meetings.   = Arranges for public notification and scheduling of meetings.  Prepares response = letters to written public comments on draft TMDLs and coordinates with TMDL = staff to ensure relevant comments are incorporated into final TMDLs, as appropriate. Ensures that all written comments and official = responses are attached as an appendix to the final = TMDL.
  • Reviews and amends TMDL documents prepared by staff prior to submittal to = EPA to ensure that technical information used is clear and concise and all required aspects of the TMDL document are included and defensible, including proper use of the TMDL Template and Style Guide. Manages = the internal peer review process for all draft TMDLs. Coordinates with = EPA during the development and finalization of TMDLs and submits final = TMDL documents to EPA for approval.

Maintains and increases internal and external stakeholder support, collaboration and commitment to the TMDL program. This includes but is not limited = to:

  • Strengthens the TMDL Program’s outreach = efforts and mentors TMDL staff in using effective outreach strategies. = Responds to media requests regarding the TMDL Program and specific TMDL = reports.
  • Annually updates and extends the 5-year priority = list of targeted TMDLs to be completed, using a collaborative and = inclusive internal and external stakeholder = process.
  • Coordinates and leads TMDL outreach efforts in a way that encourages = stakeholder involvement and ownership in TMDL development and resultant = watershed planning and implementation. Develops and maintains positive = working relationships with stakeholders.

Is = responsible for coordinating development of TMDL implementation plans and subsequent = local watershed plans. This includes but is not limited = to:

  • Provides work direction for TMDL Program staff = to develop TMDL implementation plans.  =
  • Coordinates with Watershed Improvement Section = Nonpoint Source Program staff, Lake Restoration Program staff, other = appropriate DNR staff, and staff from other federal, state and local agencies interested in implementing EPA approved TMDL documents.  = Coordinates development of implementation plans for TMDL projects in = consultation with other department staff and stakeholder groups as identified in the = TMDL project plan.
  • Facilitates the development and implementation of locally-led watershed = planning processes, as needed. Watershed plans should be developed for = implementing EPA-approved TMDL documents in cases where there is local = stakeholder interest and commitment to pursue water quality improvement = plans.  ~DNRPOST~

 

ABILITIES = AND SKILLS:  Requires ability to meet requirements for DAS Selective Certification Environmental = Health or Science (183) and Water Resources (762). Understanding of GIS capability regarding digital elevation models, land use coverages, and soil types = is necessary.  Requires experience preparing TMDL documents, good = analytical skills, and a thorough knowledge and familiarity with EPA TMDL guidance = and requirements. Ability to describe complex technical processes in terms understandable by the general public; ability to develop and maintain = effective working relationships with staff, other state and federal agencies, agricultural and environmental interests, the regulated public, industry professionals and local stakeholders; ability to lead technical and non-technical groups of both internal staff and external stakeholders; = ability to use accepted procedures to measure progress toward goals; ability to develop, read, comprehend laws, rules, policies and position papers = related to TMDLs, water quality assessments and water quality standards; ability to = use computers and database computer software products for the purposes of = data management and generating reports, presentations, tables, and charts; = ability to produce quality work products in a timely manner; ability to = effectively communicate, both orally and in written work products; ability to write documents that clearly communicate program ideas, goals and objectives; capacity to adjust to change, work pressures or difficult situations = without undue stress; must demonstrate initiative, a customer service and team = orientation and display high standards of ethical conduct. Position is a full-time = position and as such, requires regular attendance. Ability to travel with some = overnight stays..

 

 

Education, Experience and Special = Requirements:  = Applicants must meet the = minimum requirements for an Environmental Specialist Senior based on education, experience and special requirements, or an acceptable combination = thereof, as established by the Department of Administrative Services.   = Applicants must also qualify for DAS Selective Certifications:  #183 – = Environmental Health or Science AND #762 – Water = Resources.

 

HOW TO APPLY:

 

Step 1:  Interested applicants must submit a State of Iowa application form for this = position by the close of business on April 30th, 2008.  Application = forms are available from the Iowa Department of Administrative Services’ = (DAS) web page at www.das.hre.iowa.gov, from any Workforce = Development Center, or at the DAS-HRE office in Des Moines.  Completed applications must be submitted through the DAS web page = or faxed to DAS at 515-281-7970.  You must include the job title and = job vacancy number on all applications.

 

Step = 2:  In addition, in order to be considered for this position, =

 =

  1. You must upload a copy of your cover = letter, resume and three business references to DAS during the application process.

 

OR

 =

  1. Email a copy of the materials to allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov or send a hard copy of the requested materials to:  Allen = Bonini, Supervisor, Water Improvement Section, Iowa Department of Natural Resources, Wallace Building, 502 East = 9th Street, Des Moines, = IA, 50319.  The requested materials must be received within 48 hours = (excluding weekends and State holidays) of the closing date. Please be = precise when outlining your experience as related to the position and any selective(s) noted. Failure to follow these instructions will = disqualify you from consideration for this position. For more information = about this position, contact Allen Bonini at 515-281-5107 or allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov.

 

The State of Iowa is an EEO/AA EMPLOYER

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C8967C.1FE38945-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 13 X-lyris-Id: 168265 Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:44:15 -0400 From: Thomas M Over Subject: WinHSPF / PEST error
I am trying to use WinHSPF to set up a PEST control file and auxi= liary files.
 
I select PEST from the "Functions"= drop-down menu, enter the observed DSN, select the simulated DSN, and push= "Run PEST". It starts to work and indeed writes out several of the files i= ncluding the new UCI with the "~'s" in it but then stops with the message:<= /DIV>
"Object variable or With block variable not set".
At th= is time, the BASINS PEST progress window says:
"Running TSPROC to= set up PEST".
(The tsproc.dat file is not written out.)
 
Any idea what could be causing this error?
 
Thanks a lot,
 
Tom OverHydrologist          &n= bsp;            = ;         
U.S. Geolog= ical Survey          = ;           
= ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 14 X-lyris-Id: 168294 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:33:31 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF --_0a6a7fd7-cc72-4939-9f5f-394c797c60fd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Tom. =20 What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I op= ened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I could only see info= rmation concerning the RCHRES:s. =20 /Emma =20 Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPFDate: Fri, 4 = Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400From: tjobes@sjrwmd.comTo: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Emma, =20 The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are summari= zed in the =93print=94 (text) output file. =20 There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to an= y other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN). =20 The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) defines all of th= e entries in those tables, if you want to=20 understand what they do. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 20= 08 1:27 PMTo: Private list for BASINS usersSubject: [basinsinfo] Parameters= in GENERAL tables in HSPF =20 I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PE= RLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results a= t all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value an= d the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND = module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules.However, when I realized t= his and changed the values in IMPLND and RCHRES to the same value as that f= or PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. If they do not affect the res= ult, what do these parameters actually do? (I have tried reading the HELP a= bout them, but it didn't clear things up). Sincerely/Emma Radahl Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! ------------------------= ------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserve= r. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa= .gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bi= n/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserve= r owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ---------------------------------= --------- ------------------------------------------ You are currently subs= cribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubsc= ribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interfa= ce at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. O= R Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov= ------------------------------------------=20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=3Den-us&sourc= e=3Dwlmailtagline= --_0a6a7fd7-cc72-4939-9f5f-394c797c60fd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Tom.
 
What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I op= ened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I could only see info= rmation concerning the RCHRES:s.
 
/Emma

 
Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF
Date: Fri= , 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@li= sts.epa.gov

Emma,

 

The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affect= s only how the results are summarized in the =93print=94 (text) output file= . 

There will be no difference in the simula= tion, nor in results written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).

 

The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn i= n the Help menu) defines all of the entries in those tables, if you want to=

understand what they do.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Private list fo= r BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables= in HSPF

 

I have a question about HSPF= ; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do = they have any effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had b= y mistake changed the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value descri= bing how often output is written in the PERLND module, but not in the = IMPLND and RCHRES modules.
However, when I realized this and changed the= values in IMPLND and RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got th= e same flow result anyway.
If they do not affect the result, what do th= ese parameters actually do? (I have tried reading the HELP about them, but = it didn't clear things up).
 
Sincerely/Emma Radahl

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Connec= t to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 Get it now! = --_0a6a7fd7-cc72-4939-9f5f-394c797c60fd_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 15 X-lyris-Id: 168295 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:41:19 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C898DE.F88F4888 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 83D4BE37-33AB-4999-B760-A981CEA4BB0F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emma, =20 Yes, that's the most common extension, though sometimes people use other extensions, like a single letter followed=20 by the unit number. =20 If you see only RCHRES data, then check the PRINT-INFO tables to see if the output for the other operations are turned off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all active sections). =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:34 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF =20 Thank you Tom. =20 What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I opened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I could only see information concerning the RCHRES:s. =20 /Emma =20 ________________________________ Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400 From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Emma, =20 The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are summarized in the "print" (text) output file. =20 There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN). =20 The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) defines all of the entries in those tables, if you want to=20 understand what they do. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:27 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF =20 I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules. However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway.=20 If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? (I have tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up). =20 Sincerely/Emma Radahl ________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 =20 ________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C898DE.F88F4888 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 623A94C4-8B78-4CBA-B837-559A6FF226C3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Emma,

 

Yes, that’s the most common extension, though = sometimes people use other extensions, like a single letter followed

by the unit number.

 

If you see only RCHRES data, then check the PRINT-INFO = tables to see if the output for the other operations are turned

off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all active = sections).

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:34 PM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in = HSPF

 

Thank you Tom.
 
What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I = opened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I could only see = information concerning the RCHRES:s.
 
/Emma

 

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters = in GENERAL tables in HSPF
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,

 

The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the = results are summarized in the “print” (text) output file.  =

There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in = results written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).

 

The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) = defines all of the entries in those tables, if you want to

understand what they do.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in = HSPF

 

I have a question about HSPF; the = values input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have = any effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had by mistake = changed the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value describing how often = output is written in the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES = modules.
However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and = RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. =
If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? = (I have tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up).
 
Sincerely/Emma Radahl

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C898DE.F88F4888-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 16 X-lyris-Id: 168296 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:47:25 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF --_22a2d3b6-a8af-4db1-94c0-946c227db3d1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, once again thank you. =20 I had checked the PRINT-INFO table and turned the sections I wanted to look= at on, but I cannot seem to find them in the out-file. I'll try it again a= nd make sure I haven't overlooked something. Thanks! Emma Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPFDate: Mon, 7 = Apr 2008 14:41:19 -0400From: tjobes@sjrwmd.comTo: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Emma, =20 Yes, that=92s the most common extension, though sometimes people use other = extensions, like a single letter followed=20 by the unit number. =20 If you see only RCHRES data, then check the PRINT-INFO tables to see if the= output for the other operations are turned off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all active sections). =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 20= 08 2:34 PMTo: Private list for BASINS usersSubject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parame= ters in GENERAL tables in HSPF =20 Thank you Tom. What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *= .out-file? I opened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I coul= d only see information concerning the RCHRES:s. /Emma=20 Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPFDate: Fri, 4 = Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400From: tjobes@sjrwmd.comTo: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Emma, =20 The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are summari= zed in the =93print=94 (text) output file. =20 There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to an= y other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN). =20 The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) defines all of th= e entries in those tables, if you want to=20 understand what they do. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 20= 08 1:27 PMTo: Private list for BASINS usersSubject: [basinsinfo] Parameters= in GENERAL tables in HSPF =20 I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PE= RLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results a= t all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value an= d the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND = module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules.However, when I realized t= his and changed the values in IMPLND and RCHRES to the same value as that f= or PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. If they do not affect the res= ult, what do these parameters actually do? (I have tried reading the HELP a= bout them, but it didn't clear things up). Sincerely/Emma Radahl Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! ------------------------= ------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserve= r. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa= .gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bi= n/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. 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I had checked the PRINT-INFO table and turned the sections I wanted to look= at on, but I cannot seem to find them in the out-file. I'll try it again a= nd make sure I haven't overlooked something.

Thanks!
Emma


Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF
Date: Mon= , 7 Apr 2008 14:41:19 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@li= sts.epa.gov

Emma,

 

Yes, that=92s the most common extension, = though sometimes people use other extensions, like a single letter followed=

by the unit number.

 

If you see only RCHRES data, then check t= he PRINT-INFO tables to see if the output for the other operations are turn= ed

off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all act= ive sections).

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:34 PM
To: Private list fo= r BASINS users
Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL ta= bles in HSPF

 

Thank you Tom.
 
What output file are these sum= maries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I opened the *.out-file created fo= r my project, but in it I could only see information concerning the RCHRES:= s.
 
/Emma

 

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Pa= rameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400<= BR>From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,

 

The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affect= s only how the results are summarized in the =93print=94 (text) output file= . 

There will be no difference in the simula= tion, nor in results written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).

 

The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn i= n the Help menu) defines all of the entries in those tables, if you want to=

understand what they do.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Private list fo= r BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables= in HSPF

 

I have a question about HSPF= ; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do = they have any effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had b= y mistake changed the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value descri= bing how often output is written in the PERLND module, but not in the = IMPLND and RCHRES modules.
However, when I realized this and changed the= values in IMPLND and RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got th= e same flow result anyway.
If they do not affect the result, what do th= ese parameters actually do? (I have tried reading the HELP about them, but = it didn't clear things up).
 
Sincerely/Emma Radahl

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Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with= Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! = --_22a2d3b6-a8af-4db1-94c0-946c227db3d1_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 17 X-lyris-Id: 168304 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:26:36 -0000 From: "Mery Apple" Subject: HSPEXP Crash I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties. Everytime I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to type anything. Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone have any suggestions on how to avoid this? Thank you, Mery Apple ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graduate Research Assistant University of Hawai'i at Manoa Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 1910 East-West Road Sherman Lab, Room 241 Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 Email: mery@hawaii.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 18 X-lyris-Id: 168346 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: plapal1@umbc.edu Subject: Re: WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM When you say that the file unit number for a WDM within the FILES block of the UCI can be arbitrary so long as it does not match a number already in use - does that mean that I can replace the value with any I choose provided that the number doesnt appear anywhere else in the uci? In reference to being unable to open a .wdm file in WDMUtil: I checked the security properties of the pat.wdm file and no permissions are denied as far as "Full Control, Modify, Read, Write" etc goes. Does my not being able to open the file in WDMUtil ["The selected file (path...) is not a valid WDM file and may not be opened."] automatically mean then that the .wdm is corrupt? If so - can I use the accompanying pat_wdm.txt notepad file I have.. which has what I assume is all of the code from the corrupt WDM file, to create a new .WDM? In reference to UN# / EXT SOURCES: When I open my .uci in WinHSPF (with the WDM line commented out, which is the only way it will open right now), several errors indicate that several VOLNO or wdm references are missing. There are about six of these missing numbers. Does each correspond do a different .wdm file or do the numbers just indicate that different constituents within a single WDM are being used? I assume it is the latter since only one WDM file is included in the FILES block. Here is an example line of code within the EXTSOURCES block for a VOLNO that HSPF has been unable to find: # # tem strg<-factor->strg # # # # *** WDM 333 HPRC 10 ENGLZERO SAME RCHRES 10 EXTNL PREC Thanks again, - Peter > The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and output > for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run. The file unit number > for > the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not > conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit number. > If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run. If it > provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of the > uci file) you will need this file. If it is only storing output (i.e., > referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you > comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along > with > the FILES block reference. > As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is > check > that it is not write protected. This sometimes happens when a file is > stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitely > prevent the file from opening successfully. The wdm should open in > WDMUtil > entirely independent of any .uci file. Another, less pleasant > possibility, > is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed... > Jon Butcher > Tetra Tech > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Private list for BASINS users" > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM > Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# > > >> Hi, >> >> I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco >> area >> watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am an >> undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have >> the >> .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sections >> of >> the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one >> pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file. >> >> When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an >> error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan >> filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm >> file >> referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as opposed >> to >> the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containing >> data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of code >> to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking >> that >> it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the UN# >> unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the >> correct >> value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to >> comment >> out the WDM line in the FILES block. >> >> Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the >> code? >> >> Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompanying >> text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil gave >> me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' a >> WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first? >> >> Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input. >> >> - Peter >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. >> >> To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to >> lyris@lists.epa.gov >> OR: >> Use the listserver's web interface at >> https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your >> subscription. >> OR >> Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at >> basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov >> ------------------------------------------ >> > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 19 X-lyris-Id: 168350 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:03:48 -0400 From: "Diz, Harry R" Subject: using the HSPF Bacterial Tool Dear Basins List: Do any of you have experience using the Bacterial Indicator Tool developed in conjunction with HSPF? =20 We are trying to model the release and transport of coliform bacteria in several small watersheds along the shoreline of Lake Erie, and are having trouble. We can get WinHSPF to run without the bacterial data we generated using the bacterial tool (which is a spreadsheet used to develop loadings), but get error messages when we insert the data from the spreadsheet. A response from anyone with experience modeling non-point source coliform bacteria would be appreciated. Rick Diz, Ph.D., PE, =20 Dept of Environmental Science & Engineering Gannon University, Erie, PA 16541 http://www.gannon.edu/departmental/env/default.asp=20 (814) 871-7633 (o) (814) 871-7382 (fax)=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Private list for BASINS users digest [mailto:basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov]=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:00 AM To: basinsinfo digest recipients Subject: basinsinfo digest: April 08, 2008 BASINSINFO Digest for Tuesday, April 08, 2008. 1. HSPEXP Crash ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: HSPEXP Crash From: "Mery Apple" Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:26:36 -0000 X-Message-Number: 1 I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties. Everytime I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to type anything. Has anyone else had this problem? 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For problems with this list, contact basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov --- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 20 X-lyris-Id: 168374 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Zili He Subject: Re: HSPEXP Crash --0-1231490798-1207759503=:54872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I have the same problem before. Kate Flynn(USGS) have gaven me some suggestions. I tried and found that use a earlier version of Window(such as 2000) without any Anti-virsus software may be the way. Zili 4/9/2008 As your problem appears to be random, it is difficult to identify. I have not encountered this problem on my Windows XP. I occasionally get reports of this kind of problem but never get any feedback on what, if anything, solved the problem. Sometimes it is hard to identify the solution because multiple things have been tried. The best I can offer is . . . Recent Microsoft "upgrades" have slightly changed how the DOS window works on my machine. Rather annoying, but what can we do? If you are plotting, once the screen has gone to full size, don't try to make it small again. When the screen freezes, how are you trying to interact with the program? There used to be a problem where one of the terminal emulators didn't always like non-printing keys such as function and arrow keys. Instead of typing the function keys, try typing a semi colon (;) and then the first letter of the command. For example to Accept, type ;A and to get help type ;h (case does not matter.) Instead of tabbing or using the up and down arrows to move around in a menu, just type the first letter of the menu option (if it is not unique, type the first 2). On a form, use the enter key to move from field to field instead of arrows and tabs. not use the Tab, Esc, and Delete keys. C:\WINDOWS\system32\config.nt Most of the file will probably be comments (REM). At the bottom of the file, you should see something similar to: REM dos=high, umb device=%SystemRoot%\system32\himem.sys files=40 REM Line immediately below added by ANNIE 4.1 device=C:\WINDOWS\system32\ansi.sys Interfering / competing application - It may be that there is another application running that is somehow interfering with your keystrokes. Perhaps a virus scanner, some kind of computer security software, an accessibility tool, or a monitoring tool. You may not even be aware that the program is on your machine or active. You might look at Accessibility Options under Start/Settings/Control Panel to see if anything is set. Also, on my XP, under Start/Program/Accessories/Accessibility, there is an accessibility wizard that appears to set some other things. In the past, there have occasionally been problems with some of the firewall-type of software, but I have not seen this in quite some time. This might also be software that is watching or recording your keystrokes. I googled "dos program freezes" and found: http://www.nocrash.com/ncbbs/msgs/3323.shtml This suggests a problem with an application called SilentTech. Looks like you might want to check for two files: winio.sys and htpatch.exe. These are not on my machine. http://aurora.shashki.com/problem_en.html This site lists a Speedfan application which sounds similar to SilentTech. It also lists 52kControl, Motherboard Monitor, EasyTune, Smart Guardian Keyboard or mouse problems Check that your keyboard is working correctly. Find Keyboard Properties under Start/Settings/Control Panel; under the Hardware tab, look at Troubleshoot. Some people have trouble with trying to use the mouse when running hspexp and similar programs. Once you have launched the program, try moving the mouse out of easy reach. Kate Flynn U.S. Geological Survey Office of Surface Water Mery Apple wrote: I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties. Everytime I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to type anything. Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone have any suggestions on how to avoid this? Thank you, Mery Apple ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graduate Research Assistant University of Hawai'i at Manoa Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 1910 East-West Road Sherman Lab, Room 241 Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 Email: mery@hawaii.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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I have the same problem before. Kate Flynn(USGS) have gaven me some suggestions. I tried and found that use a earlier version of Window(such as 2000) without any Anti-virsus software may be the way.
 
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As your problem appears to be random, it is difficult to identify.  I have not encountered this problem on my Windows XP.  I occasionally get reports of this kind of problem but never get any feedback on what, if anything, solved the problem.  Sometimes it is hard to identify the solution because multiple things have been tried.  The best I can offer is . . .
  • Recent Microsoft "upgrades" have slightly changed how the DOS window works on my machine.  Rather annoying, but what can we do?  If you are plotting, once the screen has gone to full size, don't try to make it small again.
  • When the screen freezes, how are you trying to interact with the program?  There used to be a problem where one of the terminal emulators didn't always like non-printing keys such as function and arrow keys.  Instead of typing the function keys, try typing a semi colon (;) and then the first letter of the command.  For example to Accept, type ;A and to get help type ;h (case does not matter.)  Instead of tabbing or using the up and down arrows to move around in a menu, just type the first letter of the menu option (if it is not unique, type the first 2).  On a form, use the enter key to move from field to field instead of arrows and tabs.  not use the Tab, Esc, and Delete keys.
  • C:\WINDOWS\system32\config.nt

Most of the file will probably be comments (REM).  At the bottom of the file, you should see something similar to:

REM
dos=high, umb
device=%SystemRoot%\system32\himem.sys
files=40
REM Line immediately below added by ANNIE 4.1
device=C:\WINDOWS\system32\ansi.sys
  • Interfering / competing application - It may be that there is another application running that is somehow interfering with your keystrokes.  Perhaps a virus scanner, some kind of computer security software, an accessibility tool, or a monitoring tool.  You may not even be aware that the program is on your machine or active.
You might look at Accessibility Options under Start/Settings/Control Panel to see if anything is set. Also, on my XP, under Start/Program/Accessories/Accessibility, there is an accessibility wizard that appears to set some other things.

In the past, there have occasionally been problems with some of the firewall-type of software, but I have not seen this in quite some time.

This might also be software that is watching or recording your keystrokes.
  • I googled "dos program freezes" and found:

          http://www.nocrash.com/ncbbs/msgs/3323.shtml

This suggests a problem with an application called SilentTech.  Looks like you might want to check for two files:  winio.sys and htpatch.exe.  These are not on my machine.

          http://aurora.shashki.com/problem_en.html

This site lists a Speedfan application which sounds similar to SilentTech.   It also lists 52kControl, Motherboard Monitor, EasyTune, Smart Guardian
  • Keyboard or mouse problems

Check that your keyboard is working correctly.  Find Keyboard Properties under Start/Settings/Control Panel;  under the Hardware tab, look at Troubleshoot.

Some people have trouble with trying to use the mouse when running hspexp and similar programs.  Once you have launched the program, try moving the mouse out of easy reach.


Kate Flynn
U.S. Geological Survey
Office of Surface Water


Mery Apple <mery@hawaii.edu> wrote:
I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties. Everytime I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to type anything. Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone have any suggestions on how to avoid this?

Thank you,
Mery Apple
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Graduate Research Assistant
University of Hawai'i at Manoa
Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM)
1910 East-West Road
Sherman Lab, Room 241
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822
Email: mery@hawaii.edu
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I would be happy to share it.

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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Mery Apple <mery@hawaii.edu> wrote:
I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties.  Everytime I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to type anything.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to avoid this?

Thank you,
Mery Apple
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Graduate Research Assistant
University of Hawai'i at Manoa
Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM)
1910 East-West Road
Sherman Lab, Room 241
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822
Email: mery@hawaii.edu
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Fax: 650-962-0706 ------=_Part_24532_4730078.1207766432477-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 22 X-lyris-Id: 168415 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:22:14 -0600 From: "Daniel Ames" Subject: BASINS/MapWindow Plug-in Writing Contest... ------=_Part_8632_31911715.1207858934473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear BASINS List, The Department of Geosciences here at Idaho State University is very excited about the future of BASINS as it has integrated with the MapWindow GIS project and as such is sponsoring a MapWindow GIS Plug-in Writing Contest for you programmers! Because it uses the same core components as the desktop MapWindow GIS application, all MapWindow plugins are fully compatible with BASINS. We're looking for creative useful plug-ins that can be included with the core BASINS installer and/or the core MapWindow installer. The prize is a brand new 8 GB iPod Nano. You can read the full contest description here: http://www.mapwindow.org/wiki/index.php/MapWindow_Plug-in_Writing_Contest Please forward this note to anyone you know who may be already working on a BASINS/MapWindow plugin and/or who you think might want to give it a shot! There are lots of examples and instructions linked to the contest web site to help you get started! All it takes is a little .NET skill and a good idea... Thanks, Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software Lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesdani@isu.edu www.hydromap.com ------=_Part_8632_31911715.1207858934473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear BASINS List,

The Department of Geosciences here at Idaho State University is very excited about the future of BASINS as it has integrated with the MapWindow GIS project and as such is sponsoring a MapWindow GIS Plug-in Writing Contest for you programmers!  Because it uses the same core components as the desktop MapWindow GIS application, all MapWindow plugins are fully compatible with BASINS. 

We're looking for creative useful plug-ins that can be included with the core BASINS installer and/or the core MapWindow installer. 

The prize is a brand new 8 GB iPod Nano. You can read the full contest description here: http://www.mapwindow.org/wiki/index.php/MapWindow_Plug-in_Writing_Contest< br>
Please forward this note to anyone you know who may be already working on a BASINS/MapWindow plugin and/or who you think might want to give it a shot! There are lots of examples and instructions linked to the contest web site to help you get started! All it takes is a little .NET skill and a good idea...

Thanks,

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------=_Part_8632_31911715.1207858934473-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 23 X-lyris-Id: 168418 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:56:23 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM Peter, Yes, the unit number in the FILES block can technically be anything from 1-99, that's not Being used for anything else in the FILES block. (All unit numbers elsewhere should refer to one of the FILES block entries.) Don't confuse the unit number with WDM dataset numbers. VOLNO refers to the dataset numbers. It sounds like you're missing some datasets in your WDM file - all of the references in the EXT SOURCES or EXT TARGETS must exist and match the information in the WDM. If this doesn't work, then post an example of your error message and someone will tell you what it might mean in more detail. In terms of being unable to open a WDM file in WdmUtil, the most common cause is a pathname that is too long. Make sure that the full path, including the drive letter at the beginning and the=20 actual filename at the end, fits into 64 characters. Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: plapal1@umbc.edu [mailto:plapal1@umbc.edu]=20 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:27 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM When you say that the file unit number for a WDM within the FILES block of the UCI can be arbitrary so long as it does not match a number already in use - does that mean that I can replace the value with any I choose provided that the number doesnt appear anywhere else in the uci? In reference to being unable to open a .wdm file in WDMUtil: I checked the security properties of the pat.wdm file and no permissions are denied as far as "Full Control, Modify, Read, Write" etc goes. Does my not being able to open the file in WDMUtil ["The selected file (path...) is not a valid WDM file and may not be opened."] automatically mean then that the .wdm is corrupt? If so - can I use the accompanying pat_wdm.txt notepad file I have.. which has what I assume is all of the code from the corrupt WDM file, to create a new .WDM? In reference to UN# / EXT SOURCES: When I open my .uci in WinHSPF (with the WDM line commented out, which is the only way it will open right now), several errors indicate that several VOLNO or wdm references are missing. There are about six of these missing numbers. Does each correspond do a different .wdm file or do the numbers just indicate that different constituents within a single WDM are being used? I assume it is the latter since only one WDM file is included in the FILES block. Here is an example line of code within the EXTSOURCES block for a VOLNO that HSPF has been unable to find: # # tem strg<-factor->strg # # # # *** WDM 333 HPRC 10 ENGLZERO SAME RCHRES 10 EXTNL PREC Thanks again, - Peter > The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and output > for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run. The file unit number > for > the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not > conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit number. > If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run. If it > provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of the > uci file) you will need this file. If it is only storing output (i.e., > referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you > comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along > with > the FILES block reference. > As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is > check > that it is not write protected. This sometimes happens when a file is > stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitely > prevent the file from opening successfully. The wdm should open in > WDMUtil > entirely independent of any .uci file. Another, less pleasant > possibility, > is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed... > Jon Butcher > Tetra Tech > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Private list for BASINS users" > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM > Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# > > >> Hi, >> >> I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco >> area >> watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am an >> undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have >> the >> .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sections >> of >> the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one >> pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file. >> >> When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an >> error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan >> filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm >> file >> referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as opposed >> to >> the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containing >> data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of code >> to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking >> that >> it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the UN# >> unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the >> correct >> value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to >> comment >> out the WDM line in the FILES block. >> >> Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the >> code? >> >> Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompanying >> text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil gave >> me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' a >> WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first? >> >> Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input. >> >> - Peter >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. >> >> To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to >> lyris@lists.epa.gov >> OR: >> Use the listserver's web interface at >> https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your >> subscription. >> OR >> Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at >> basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov >> ------------------------------------------ >> > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 24 X-lyris-Id: 168527 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:42:16 -0400 From: "Paul Duda" Subject: RE: HSPEXP Crash One more tip that may not have been offered yet -- Right-click on the = .EXE file, choose 'Properties', and from the 'Compatibility' tab choose = Windows 98 as the 'compatibility mode'. Paul Duda AQUA TERRA Consultants -----Original Message----- From: Mery Apple [mailto:mery@hawaii.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:27 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] HSPEXP Crash I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties. Everytime = I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to = type anything. Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone have any = suggestions on how to avoid this? =20 Thank you, Mery Apple=20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=20 Graduate Research Assistant=20 University of Hawai'i at Manoa=20 Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM)=20 1910 East-West Road=20 Sherman Lab, Room 241=20 Honolulu, Hawaii 96822=20 Email: mery@hawaii.edu=20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to = lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at = https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription. 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I have heard both yes and no on this fr= om people who should know, which confuses me to no end. =20 Sincerely, Emma Radahl _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Space= s. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=3Dcreate&wx_url=3D/friends.= aspx&mkt=3Den-us= --_031d8625-52ab-42d1-9b99-6db0a5dfc5a8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,
 
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and wheth= er or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened o= ut since it is something that is of importance to me.
 
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to u= se with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this fr= om people who should know, which confuses me to no end.
 
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl

Invite your mail contacts to join your friends l= ist with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! = --_031d8625-52ab-42d1-9b99-6db0a5dfc5a8_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 26 X-lyris-Id: 168544 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:34:44 -0000 From: "Mery Apple" Subject: RE: HSPEXP Crash Paul, Thanks so much! That was the issue making the program freeze up. Mery ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 27 X-lyris-Id: 168547 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Open Source or Not? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C89EF3.2FDD4FB3 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 95EA9C8A-A3A8-4F7E-9298-C39BC61EE0D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emma, =20 I believe the confusion may be between the terms "open source" and "public domain". I believe all three models you list are public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including having access to the source code. "Open source" implies more=20 than that - that the community of users contribute to the software development effort. Anyone can freely modify the source for these models for their own use, but those changes generally do not contribute back to the official versions, unless specific arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the code. Therefore I would not consider them "open source" models. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not? =20 Hello, =20 I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and whether or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me. =20 Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to use with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from people who should know, which confuses me to no end. =20 Sincerely, Emma Radahl ________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C89EF3.2FDD4FB3 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 685E8B70-7845-4846-95FC-8B66DF4B8EA3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Emma,

 

I believe the confusion may be between the terms = “open source” and “public domain”.  I believe all three = models you list are

public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including having access to the source code.  “Open = source” implies more

than that – that the community of users contribute = to the software development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the source

for these models for their own use, but those changes = generally do not contribute back to the official versions, unless = specific

arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of = the code.  Therefore I would not consider them “open = source” models.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?

 

Hello,
 
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and = whether or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.
 
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible = to use with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this = from people who should know, which confuses me to no end.
 
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C89EF3.2FDD4FB3-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 28 X-lyris-Id: 168592 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:11:07 -0600 From: "Daniel Ames" Subject: Re: Open Source or Not? ------=_Part_31193_30369410.1208286667378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline To expand on Tom's answer, "public domain" specifically indicates that ther= e is no copyright holder. Hence anyone can do anything with any part of it. "Open source" indicates that the software is licensed under a specific license (MapWindow uses the Mozilla Public License) which lists the copyright holder and any restrictions on use of the code. MPL allows one to use the code for any purpose, commercial or otherwise with the constraint that if you modify the code you share it back with the community. Hope tha= t helps. - Dan On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Tom Jobes wrote: > Emma, > > > > I believe the confusion may be between the terms "open source" and "publi= c > domain". I believe all three models you list are > > public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including havin= g > access to the source code. "Open source" implies more > > than that =96 that the community of users contribute to the software > development effort. Anyone can freely modify the source > > for these models for their own use, but those changes generally do not > contribute back to the official versions, unless specific > > arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the code. > Therefore I would not consider them "open source" models. > > > > Tom Jobes > > St Johns River Water Management District > > tjobes@sjrwmd.com > > W: 386-328-4463 > > C: 386-937-6341 > > > > *From:* Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM > *To:* Private list for BASINS users > *Subject:* [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not? > > > > Hello, > > I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and > whether or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this > straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me. > > Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to > use with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this > from people who should know, which confuses me to no end. > > Sincerely, > Emma Radahl > ------------------------------ > > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces. It's easy! Try it!-----------------------------= ------------- > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > --=20 Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software Lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesdani@isu.edu www.hydromap.com ------=_Part_31193_30369410.1208286667378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline To expand on Tom's answer, "public domain" specifically indic= ates that there is no copyright holder. Hence anyone can do anything with a= ny part of it. "Open source" indicates that the software is licen= sed under a specific license (MapWindow uses the Mozilla Public License) wh= ich lists the copyright holder and any restrictions on use of the code. MPL= allows one to use the code for any purpose, commercial or otherwise with t= he constraint that if you modify the code you share it back with the commun= ity.  Hope that helps. - Dan

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Tom Jobes &= lt;tjobes@sjrwmd.com> wrote:

Emma,

 <= /p>

I believe the = confusion may be between the terms "open source" and "public domain".  I believe all three models you list are

public domain,= meaning that anyone can use them for free, including having access to the source code.  "Open source" implies more

than that =96 = that the community of users contribute to the software development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the source

for these mode= ls for their own use, but those changes generally do not contribute back to the official versions, unless specific

arrangements a= re made with the maintainers/controllers of the code.  Therefore I would not consider them "open source" models.

 <= /p>

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 <= /p>

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_198= 2@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?

 

Hello,  
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and wheth= er or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.
 
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to u= se with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from people who should know, which confuses me to no end.
 
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl

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------=_Part_31193_30369410.1208286667378-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 29 X-lyris-Id: 168731 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:52:53 -0400 From: "Chin, David A." Subject: BASINS Met WDM Data Update Dear all: The Met Data downloaded within BASINS 4 covers 1970 - 1996 (at least for Ge= orgia) . These seem a bit old, are there any updated public Met WDM files t= hat use more recent data, such as up to 2006? David Chin ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 30 X-lyris-Id: 168737 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:57:28 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: Single Sewer systems in HSPF? --_183ba198-23e6-4b8a-aba6-f70b7ec36dc0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First of all, thanks to the people who helped me in sorting out the public = domain / open source issue. Although I am still a little confused, since I = read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that=20 "There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because all softw= are=20 components integrated into the program are open source." Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then? I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large = source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on h= ow to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or i= s it something that's not dealt with in the model? /Emma _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Space= s. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=3Dcreate&wx_url=3D/friends.= aspx&mkt=3Den-us= --_183ba198-23e6-4b8a-aba6-f70b7ec36dc0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First of all, thanks to the people who helped me in sorting out the public = domain / open source issue. Although I am still a little confused, since I = read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that
"There are no additional softwa= re requirements for BASINS because all software=20 components integrated into the program are open source."
Does this only = refer to the MapWindow software then?

I'm also curious as to how HSP= F handles single sewers? It's a rather large source when it comes to pollut= ion, and I haen't found a good reference on how to deal with that in the mo= del. Is it simply input as point sources or is it something that's not deal= t with in the model?

/Emma


Invite your mail conta= cts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! = --_183ba198-23e6-4b8a-aba6-f70b7ec36dc0_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 31 X-lyris-Id: 168739 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:50:16 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: Double checking spatial distribution. --_503699e9-6dbd-481c-ae8b-0d26443b5c5f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I was just wondering if I could double check one thing about the HSPF model= . All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration etc), they are = applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After which each PE= RLND and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which leads to separate = runoff values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are then added to give the= total runoff value to a RCHRES, together with inflow from upstream reaches= ? (I am comparing the HSPF model with a somewhat less spatially distributed m= odel, and I just want to make sure I get the distributions right when compa= ring them...) //Emma Radahl M.Sc Student, Sweden _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=3Den-us&sourc= e=3Dwlmailtagline= --_503699e9-6dbd-481c-ae8b-0d26443b5c5f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,

I was just wondering if I could double check one thing about = the HSPF model. All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration e= tc), they are applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After= which each PERLND and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which lead= s to separate runoff values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are then add= ed to give the total runoff value to a RCHRES, together with inflow from up= stream reaches?

(I am comparing the HSPF model with a somewhat less = spatially distributed model, and I just want to make sure I get the distrib= utions right when comparing them...)

//Emma Radahl
M.Sc Student, = Sweden

Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 <= a href=3D'http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=3De= n-us&source=3Dwlmailtagline' target=3D'_new'>Get it now! = --_503699e9-6dbd-481c-ae8b-0d26443b5c5f_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 32 X-lyris-Id: 168741 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Single Sewer systems in HSPF? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A14D.00009E44 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 76A5A65D-5372-4CF4-932C-3294E1E87453 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little clearer on that issue then. =20 What kind of sewers are you talking about? Sanitary? Storm? Combined? Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are generally treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment plant in between or not. Storm sewers are generally ignored, and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption that the flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not significantly different than water running down the street, say. Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with - if it's a significant volume or load source, then HSPF doesn't really handle it well - linking with something like SWMM might work much better. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF? =20 First of all, thanks to the people who helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although I am still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that=20 "There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because all software components integrated into the program are open source." Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then? I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on how to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or is it something that's not dealt with in the model? /Emma ________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A14D.00009E44 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: A02429BA-D660-4E8B-994D-F849F13ADA6E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little = clearer on that issue then.

 

What kind of sewers are you talking about?  = Sanitary? Storm? Combined?  Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are = generally

treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment = plant in between or not.  Storm sewers are generally ignored,

and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption = that the flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not

significantly different than water running down the = street, say.  Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with

significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with = – if it’s a significant volume or load source, then HSPF = doesn’t

really handle it well – linking with something like = SWMM might work much better.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?

 

First of all, thanks to the people = who helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although = I am still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that =
"There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because = all software components integrated into the program are open = source."
Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?

I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather = large source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference = on how to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or = is it something that's not dealt with in the model?

/Emma

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A14D.00009E44-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 33 X-lyris-Id: 168742 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:15:10 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Double checking spatial distribution. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A14D.D997AA60 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: AB69BE58-1F8E-4625-9EE6-4C3C2853749D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, that sums it up pretty well. Just add in point sources as another possible inflow to a reach. =20 It's also good to be clear that the PERLND and IMPLND runoff values are computed on a unit-area basis, and then multiplied by the respective areas before they are added up. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:50 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Double checking spatial distribution. =20 Hello, I was just wondering if I could double check one thing about the HSPF model. All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration etc), they are applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After which each PERLND and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which leads to separate runoff values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are then added to give the total runoff value to a RCHRES, together with inflow from upstream reaches? (I am comparing the HSPF model with a somewhat less spatially distributed model, and I just want to make sure I get the distributions right when comparing them...) //Emma Radahl M.Sc Student, Sweden ________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A14D.D997AA60 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 092AFA2F-2436-41D5-8D4A-3C06BA44A25F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, that sums it up pretty well.  Just add in point sources as another possible inflow to a reach.

 

It’s also good to be clear that the PERLND and = IMPLND runoff values are computed on a unit-area basis, and then

multiplied by the respective areas before they are added = up.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:50 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Double checking spatial = distribution.

 

Hello,

I was just wondering if I could double check one thing about the HSPF = model. All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration etc), they are applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After which each = PERLND and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which leads to separate = runoff values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are then added to give the = total runoff value to a RCHRES, together with inflow from upstream = reaches?

(I am comparing the HSPF model with a somewhat less spatially = distributed model, and I just want to make sure I get the distributions right when comparing them...)

//Emma Radahl
M.Sc Student, Sweden

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A14D.D997AA60-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 34 X-lyris-Id: 168743 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:25:22 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: RE: Single Sewer systems in HSPF? --_591d4c1a-a7c3-4130-b84a-240777905f65_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I assume it should be. I have now taken it to mean that no additional = software is needed (like ArcGIS), since everything that BASINS uses can be = run without extra programs that would otherwise have to be bought. Hope tha= t is what it really means. Mainly sanitary sewers. I hope it is the correct English term, what I mean = are drains from private properties that aren't connected to the main system= that leads to large treatment plants. From what I have read, they are rath= er significant sources of pollution here. So it would be possible to link HSPF to another model to get good values of= these pollutant loads for use in HSPF?=20 Thank you. Emma Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400 From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little clearer on that issue then. =20 What kind of sewers are you talking about? Sanitary? Storm? Combined? Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are generally treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment plant in between or not. Storm sewers are generally ignored, and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption that the flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not significantly different than water running down the street, say. Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with =96 if it=92s a significant volume or load source, then HSPF doesn=92t really handle it well =96 linking with something like SWMM might work much better. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF? =20 First of all, thanks to the people who helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although I = am still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that=20 "There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because all software components integrated into the program are open source." Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then? I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on h= ow to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or is i= t something that's not dealt with in the model? /Emma Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your=20 subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx= --_591d4c1a-a7c3-4130-b84a-240777905f65_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I assume it should be. I have now taken it to mean that no additional = software is needed (like ArcGIS), since everything that BASINS uses can be = run without extra programs that would otherwise have to be bought. Hope tha= t is what it really means.

Mainly sanitary sewers. I hope it is the = correct English term, what I mean are drains from private properties that a= ren't connected to the main system that leads to large treatment plants. Fr= om what I have read, they are rather significant sources of pollution here.=
So it would be possible to link HSPF to another model to get good value= s of these pollutant loads for use in HSPF?

Thank you.
Emma
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Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?<= br>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: = basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Sounds like the BASINS 4 manu= al should be a little clearer on that issue then.

 

What kind of sewers are you t= alking about?  Sanitary? Storm? Combined?  Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are generally<= /p>

treated as point sources, whe= ther there is a treatment plant in between or not.  Storm sewers are generally ignored,

and lumped into the surface r= unoff, on the assumption that the flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not

significantly different than = water running down the street, say.  Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with

significant inflow/infiltrati= on) are harder to deal with =96 if it=92s a significant volume or load source, then HSPF doesn=92t

really handle it well =96 lin= king with something like SWMM might work much better.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?

 

First of all, thanks to = the people who helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although I = am still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that "There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because all software components integrated into the program are open source."
Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?

I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on h= ow to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or is i= t something that's not dealt with in the model?

/Emma

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Get news, entertainment and everything you care ab= out at Live.com. Check it out! = --_591d4c1a-a7c3-4130-b84a-240777905f65_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 35 X-lyris-Id: 168744 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:33:03 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Single Sewer systems in HSPF? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A158.BAA8BCA6 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 92D0F194-3405-454E-9EAB-8FB98CEB9129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you mean septic systems, then, with a tank that drains through a tile-drain system? These are generally also represented as point=20 sources to the stream, with loads estimated by population density and typical local failure rates. (Non-failed septics are typically assumed to reduce the pollutant load to the background level.) =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:25 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF? =20 Yes, I assume it should be. I have now taken it to mean that no additional software is needed (like ArcGIS), since everything that BASINS uses can be run without extra programs that would otherwise have to be bought. Hope that is what it really means. Mainly sanitary sewers. I hope it is the correct English term, what I mean are drains from private properties that aren't connected to the main system that leads to large treatment plants. From what I have read, they are rather significant sources of pollution here. So it would be possible to link HSPF to another model to get good values of these pollutant loads for use in HSPF?=20 Thank you. Emma ________________________________ Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400 From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little clearer on that issue then. =20 What kind of sewers are you talking about? Sanitary? Storm? Combined? Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are generally treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment plant in between or not. Storm sewers are generally ignored, and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption that the flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not significantly different than water running down the street, say. Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with - if it's a significant volume or load source, then HSPF doesn't really handle it well - linking with something like SWMM might work much better. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF? =20 First of all, thanks to the people who helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although I am still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that=20 "There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because all software components integrated into the program are open source." Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then? I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on how to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or is it something that's not dealt with in the model? /Emma ________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! 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Do you mean septic systems, then, with a tank that drains through a tile-drain system?  These are generally also represented = as point

sources to the stream, with loads estimated by population density and typical local failure rates. (Non-failed septics are = typically assumed

to reduce the pollutant load to the background = level.)

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:25 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in = HSPF?

 

Yes, I assume it should be. I have = now taken it to mean that no additional software is needed (like ArcGIS), since everything that BASINS uses can be run without extra programs that would otherwise have to be bought. Hope that is what it really means.

Mainly sanitary sewers. I hope it is the correct English term, what I = mean are drains from private properties that aren't connected to the main system = that leads to large treatment plants. From what I have read, they are rather significant sources of pollution here.
So it would be possible to link HSPF to another model to get good values = of these pollutant loads for use in HSPF?

Thank you.
Emma

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single = Sewer systems in HSPF?
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little = clearer on that issue then.

 

What kind of sewers are you talking about?  = Sanitary? Storm? Combined?  Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are = generally

treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment = plant in between or not.  Storm sewers are generally ignored,

and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption = that the flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not

significantly different than water running down the = street, say.  Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers = with

significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with = – if it’s a significant volume or load source, then HSPF = doesn’t

really handle it well – linking with something like = SWMM might work much better.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?

 

First of all, thanks to the people = who helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although = I am still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that =
"There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because = all software components integrated into the program are open = source."
Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?

I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather = large source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference = on how to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or = is it something that's not dealt with in the model?

/Emma

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Have I understood you c= orrectly that you mean that as it is today, anyone can modify the source co= de for HSPF, AQUATOX and PLOAD for their own use? Sincerely, Emma Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400 From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Emma, =20 I believe the confusion may be between the terms =93open source=94 and =93public domain=94. I believe all three models you list are public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including having access to the source code. =93Open source=94 implies more=20 than that =96 that the community of users contribute to the software development effort. Anyone can freely modify the source for these models for their own use, but those changes generally do not contribute back to the official versions, unless specific arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the code. Therefore I would not consider them =93open source=94 models. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not? =20 Hello, =20 I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and wheth= er or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me. =20 Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to u= se with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from people who should know, which confuses me to no end. =20 Sincerely, Emma Radahl Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! 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I just had to double check something with you here. Have I unde= rstood you correctly that you mean that as it is today, anyone can modify t= he source code for HSPF, AQUATOX and PLOAD for their own use?

Sincer= ely,
Emma

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source o= r Not?
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com<= br>To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,

 

I believe the confusion may b= e between the terms =93open source=94 and =93public domain=94.  I believe all three models you list are

public domain, meaning that a= nyone can use them for free, including having access to the source code.  =93Open source=94 implies more

than that =96 that the commun= ity of users contribute to the software development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the source

for these models for their ow= n use, but those changes generally do not contribute back to the official versions, unless specific

arrangements are made with th= e maintainers/controllers of the code.  Therefore I would not consider them =93open source=94 models.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?

 

Hello,
 
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and wheth= er or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.
 
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to u= se with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from people who should know, which confuses me to no end.
 
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl

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Invite your mail contacts to join your friends lis= t with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! = --_0dfc05ca-3d64-4615-b7e5-f5f44216981b_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 38 X-lyris-Id: 168835 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:58:36 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Open Source or Not? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A489.57DC1F41 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: F21CBFD1-118A-4AB2-B88A-79230B607C4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know that is true of HSPF - people have done so before - and I believe it should be true of the others. If however you modified and tried to sell it, then you might have some issues. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:40 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not? =20 Tom, I just had to double check something with you here. Have I understood you correctly that you mean that as it is today, anyone can modify the source code for HSPF, AQUATOX and PLOAD for their own use? Sincerely, Emma ________________________________ Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400 From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov Emma, =20 I believe the confusion may be between the terms "open source" and "public domain". I believe all three models you list are public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including having access to the source code. "Open source" implies more=20 than that - that the community of users contribute to the software development effort. Anyone can freely modify the source for these models for their own use, but those changes generally do not contribute back to the official versions, unless specific arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the code. Therefore I would not consider them "open source" models. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not? =20 Hello, =20 I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and whether or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me. =20 Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to use with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from people who should know, which confuses me to no end. =20 Sincerely, Emma Radahl ________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 =20 ________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A489.57DC1F41 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: C8C036DF-51B0-4F5A-8A67-35189F030E01 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I know that is true of HSPF – people have done so = before - and I believe it should be true of the others.  If however you modified = and tried to sell it, then you might have some issues.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:40 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?

 

Tom,

I just had to double check something with you here. Have I understood = you correctly that you mean that as it is today, anyone can modify the = source code for HSPF, AQUATOX and PLOAD for their own use?

Sincerely,
Emma

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source = or Not?
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,

 

I believe the confusion may be between the terms = “open source” and “public domain”.  I believe all three models you = list are

public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, = including having access to the source code.  “Open source” = implies more

than that – that the community of users contribute = to the software development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the = source

for these models for their own use, but those changes = generally do not contribute back to the official versions, unless = specific

arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of = the code.  Therefore I would not consider them “open = source” models.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?

 

Hello,
 
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and = whether or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.
 
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible = to use with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this = from people who should know, which confuses me to no end.
 
Sincerely,
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H= i,
 
I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string &q= uot;""" to type 'Double' is not valid.) while transitio= ning from BASINS to HSPF. Surprisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I ran the BASINS.
 
Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me ho= w to rectify this error?
 
I'd really appreciate your help.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Roop.

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I would be grateful if colleagues would forward this message to potential applicants.

Jun Xu

****************************************************************************= *****
Postdoctoral Fellow / Research Associate =96 Watershed Modeling

The Watershed Hydrology lab at Louisiana State University/Agricultural Center seeks a postdoctoral fellow/research associate to work on a spatial hydrologic modeling project that addresses the effectiveness of best management practices in agriculture/forest dominated watersheds. The successful candidate should have (1) a solid background in hydrology and water resources, (2) hands-on experience of using watershed models including SWAT/HSPF/BASINS and GIS/RS applications, (3) physical ability to work in rugged and remote field locations, and (4) ability to work well independently and as part of a team. Experience with common field procedures and equipment used in stream measurements and water quality monitoring (e.g., flowmeter, water logger, ISCO automated sampler system, and Hydrolab/YSI multiprobe) would be a big plus.

The position is for one year with possibility of extension. Salary will be commensurate with qualifications and experience. Benefits include retirement, university holidays, earned annual and sick leave, optional medical and life insurances. The position is immediately available. Applicants should send a statement outlining research interests, resume, university transcripts, and the names and addresses of three references to Jun Xu (yjxu@lsu.edu).


Louisiana State University/Agricultural Center provides equal opportunities in programs and employment. The University is one of only 13 American universities designated as a land-grant, sea-grant and space-grant research center. The institution is home to over 34,000 faculty, staff, and students from every state of America and more than 120 foreign countries.

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Y. Jun Xu, Ph.D.
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Louisiana State University
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 --=====================_1309571750==.ALT-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 42 X-lyris-Id: 169006 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:02:00 -0000 From: "MICHELIN Christophe" Subject: What's wrong with Surfer 7 grid and basins 4 readings ? What?s wrong between Surfer 7 grids and Basins 4 grids? Basins bug or misfit for me? When I import a Surfer 7 grid with the GIS TOOLS/ Raster/ Change Grids format Basins 4 read correctly only X & Y data?s but all Z values are turned to zero. If I transform a Basins 4 grid into Ascii grid and replace Basins zero values with surfer values, the final result is correct except that the map is mirroring along Y axe. If I perform an Y mirroring surfer grid with surfer and replace values into Basins 4 ascii grid, the result is perfect. It?s not so long to do that but not very convenient. What?s wrong ? Is anyone have a solution ? Sincerely yours Email : christophe.michelin@egis.fr ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 43 X-lyris-Id: 169007 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:51:52 -0400 From: "Paul Duda" Subject: RE: Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C8A6B9.FD117740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This error might occur if a feature of the the land use layer has a blank value in the land use code field. In other words, where normally each feature of the land use layer has been assigned a code such as 11 or 21, for instance, there is one that has not been assigned a value, or it is blank. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Biswarup Guha [mailto:bguha@hydroqual.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:57 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE:[basinsinfo] Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF Importance: High Hi, I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string """" to type 'Double' is not valid.) while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF. Surprisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I ran the BASINS. Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me how to rectify this error? I'd really appreciate your help. Thanks in advance, Roop. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C8A6B9.FD117740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This=20 error might occur if a feature of the the land use layer has a = blank value=20 in the land use code field.  In other words, where normally each = feature of=20 the land use layer has been assigned a code such as 11 or 21, for = instance,=20 there is one that has not been assigned a value, or it is blank. =20
 
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I am=20 encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string """" = to type=20 'Double' is not valid.) while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF.=20 Surprisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I = ran the=20 BASINS.
 
Has anybody=20 encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me how to = rectify this=20 error?
 
I'd really=20 appreciate your help.
 
Thanks in=20 advance,
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C8A6B9.FD117740-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 44 X-lyris-Id: 169008 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:58:58 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: RE: Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA747shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Paul. Somehow when reclassifying the landuse, the last landuse did = not have the impervious percent and that was causing this error. Paul, could you please enlighten me how to model lakes in HSPF? In BASINS I= specified the outlets at the lake outlets as Reservoir outlets. I do not h= ave any rating curve data of the lakes, so I am using one rating curve for = the entire watershed. The flow generated by the HSPF is not totally differe= nt from the data (I have few months of data so far) when I do this. Thanks for your help. Roop. ________________________________ From: Paul Duda [mailto:pbduda@aquaterra.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:52 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF This error might occur if a feature of the the land use layer has a blank v= alue in the land use code field. In other words, where normally each featu= re of the land use layer has been assigned a code such as 11 or 21, for ins= tance, there is one that has not been assigned a value, or it is blank. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Biswarup Guha [mailto:bguha@hydroqual.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:57 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE:[basinsinfo] Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF Importance: High Hi, I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string """" t= o type 'Double' is not valid.) while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF. Sur= prisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I ran the B= ASINS. Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me how to= rectify this error? I'd really appreciate your help. Thanks in advance, Roop. ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ________________________________ If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA747shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Paul. Somehow when reclassifying the= landuse, the last landuse did not have the impervious percent and that was= causing this error.
 
Paul, could you please enlighten me how to m= odel lakes in HSPF? In BASINS I specified the outlets at the lake outlets a= s Reservoir outlets. I do not have any rating curve data of the lakes, so I am using one rating curve for the entire wat= ershed. The flow generated by the HSPF is not totally different from the da= ta (I have few months of data so far) when I do this.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Roop.

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This error might occur if a feature of the the land use layer has = a blank value in the land use code field.  In other words, where norma= lly each feature of the land use layer has been assigned a code such as 11 or 21, for instance, there is one that has not = been assigned a value, or it is blank. 
 
Paul
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H= i,
 
I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string &q= uot;""" to type 'Double' is not valid.) while transitio= ning from BASINS to HSPF. Surprisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I ran the BASINS.
 
Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me ho= w to rectify this error?
 
I'd really appreciate your help.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Roop.

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 --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA747shelterhydroq_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 45 X-lyris-Id: 169071 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:33:42 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: RE:Error while running HSPF - Array subscripts exceeds allocated area --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA75Dshelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, While executing the HSPS, I am getting the following error: "Array subscrip= t exceeds allocated area (see "Arrays" in the Lahey Fortran 90 Language Ref= erence). Error occured at line 1945 of the file C:\lib3.0\src\wdm\WDTMS1.FO= R First of all I don't have any lib3.0 directory on my C drive. How do I find= out which array has the problem? Thanks in advance for your help. Roop. ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA75Dshelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

While executing the HSPS, I am getti= ng the following error: "Array subscript exceeds allocated area (see &= quot;Arrays" in the Lahey Fortran 90 Language Reference). Error occure= d at line 1945 of the file C:\lib3.0\src\wdm\WDTMS1.FOR
 
First of all I don't have any lib3.0 directo= ry on my C drive. How do I find out which array has the problem?
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Roop.

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 --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA75Dshelterhydroq_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 46 X-lyris-Id: 169076 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:08:03 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Error while running HSPF - Array subscripts exceeds allocated area This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A9F1.AD78D996 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 07606BDD-5249-4E7C-B0E4-CD439E9C862F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Biswarup, =20 This crash is a problem writing to the WDM file. It's one I've never seen, but seems to be either a date problem or a corrupted WDM file. Check your input dates, and if there is no problem there, try replacing the WDM with a backup if you have one. =20 Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 =20 From: Biswarup Guha [mailto:bguha@hydroqual.com]=20 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:34 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE:[basinsinfo] Error while running HSPF - Array subscripts exceeds allocated area =20 Hi, While executing the HSPS, I am getting the following error: "Array subscript exceeds allocated area (see "Arrays" in the Lahey Fortran 90 Language Reference). Error occured at line 1945 of the file C:\lib3.0\src\wdm\WDTMS1.FOR =20 First of all I don't have any lib3.0 directory on my C drive. How do I find out which array has the problem? =20 Thanks in advance for your help. =20 Roop. =20 ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A9F1.AD78D996 X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: D28254A0-2DDA-4EF2-BD51-FBDF22E65045 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Biswarup,

 

This crash is a problem writing to the WDM file.  = It’s one I’ve never seen, but seems to be either a date problem or a corrupted WDM = file.

Check your input dates, and if there is no problem there, = try replacing the WDM with a backup  if you have one.

 

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

 

From:= = Biswarup Guha [mailto:bguha@hydroqual.com]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:34 PM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: RE:[basinsinfo] Error while running HSPF - Array = subscripts exceeds allocated area

 

Hi,


While executing the HSPS, I am getting the following error: "Array subscript exceeds allocated area (see "Arrays" in = the Lahey Fortran 90 Language Reference). Error occured at line 1945 of the = file C:\lib3.0\src\wdm\WDTMS1.FOR

 

First of all I don't have any lib3.0 directory on my C = drive. How do I find out which array has the problem?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Roop.

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C8A9F1.AD78D996-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 47 X-lyris-Id: 169077 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:52:02 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: The Climate Assessment Tool --_0466f404-8b2c-43ce-af29-840089de11d0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Has anyone run the Climate Assessment Tool in BASINS 4 GIS with good result= s? I was testing it out, and it seems to work fine if I only have it vary t= he precipitation series in my meteorologic wdm-file, but if I add that it s= hould vary both the precipitation series and the temperature series I get v= ery odd results. When I vary only the precipitation time series, and as output define that I= want to get a mean value of the flow series, it gives me 4 different value= s. When I vary both the precipitation time series and the temperature time ser= ies (which means that I also provide CAT with the potential evaporation ser= ies I use) CAT gives me no variation in the output "mean flow values". I ju= st get the first value over and over again. Has anyone encountered this problem and knows what to do? The uci-file I us= ed is just a basic one calibrated for hydrology. /Emma _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=3Den-us&sourc= e=3Dwlmailtagline= --_0466f404-8b2c-43ce-af29-840089de11d0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

Has anyone run the Climate Assessment Tool in BASINS 4 GI= S with good results? I was testing it out, and it seems to work fine if I o= nly have it vary the precipitation series in my meteorologic wdm-file, but = if I add that it should vary both the precipitation series and the temperat= ure series I get very odd results.

When I vary only the precipitatio= n time series, and as output define that I want to get a mean value of the = flow series, it gives me 4 different values.

When I vary both the pr= ecipitation time series and the temperature time series (which means that I= also provide CAT with the potential evaporation series I use) CAT gives me= no variation in the output "mean flow values". I just get the first value = over and over again.

Has anyone encountered this problem and knows w= hat to do? The uci-file I used is just a basic one calibrated for hydrology= .

/Emma

Connect to the next generation of MSN Messeng= er=A0 Get it now! = --_0466f404-8b2c-43ce-af29-840089de11d0_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 48 X-lyris-Id: 169082 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:45:51 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: RE: BASINS NED Data Download --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA764shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am trying to use the 30 m resolution NED Dataset. I downloaded the NED da= ta from the BASINS interface and the elevation units are in cm. I assumed i= nitially that the centimeters would be converted automatically to meters (w= hich is the default). However, the numbers are getting carried over through= out the process and in HSPF as well. So, I am getting elevation drops of 90= 0 ft whereas it should be around 7-9 ft. Also, BASINS is calculating zero s= lopes which is odd too. Could you please suggest a way around this problem? Thanks, Roop. ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA764shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I am trying to use the 30 m resolution NED Dataset. I downloaded the NE= D data from the BASINS interface and the elevation units are in cm. I assum= ed initially that the centimeters would be converted automatically to meters (which is the default). However, the = numbers are getting carried over throughout the process and in HSPF as well= . So, I am getting elevation drops of 900 ft whereas it should be around 7-= 9 ft. Also, BASINS is calculating zero slopes which is odd too. Could you please suggest a way around this p= roblem?
 
Thanks,
Roop.

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 --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FF08CA764shelterhydroq_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 49 X-lyris-Id: 169118 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:09:06 -0400 From: "Chin, David A." Subject: WinHSPF - PEST Linkage Colleagues, I am successfully running a WinHSPF Project where the outflow has a known D= SN (in the output file), and the corresponding measured flow has a known DS= N (in the input MetWDM file). Both time series can be viewed simultaneously= with GenScn utility. Subsequent to these successful runs, PEST is initiated within the WinHSPF e= nvironment. The pop-up window shows the correct DSN for the output time ser= ies, and I put in the DSN for the measured time series. When PEST starts ru= nning, it gives an error that it cannot open the MetWDM file. (I have no pr= oblem opening the file with WDMUtil). Any suggestions on how to fix this problem? Thanks, David Chin ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 50 X-lyris-Id: 169136 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:03:46 -0400 From: Partington.Ed@epamail.epa.gov Subject: RE:BASINS NED Data Download Thanks for pointing out this problem in BASINS4 in the automatic delineation using the 30 m NED dataset. A work around is to put a decimal place 2 digits to the left in the elevation column in the .dbf file which should make it meters. EPA/OW/OST/SHPD/RSTSSB/BASINS Biswarup Guha To "Private list for BASINS users" 04/29/2008 11:45 AM cc Subject Please respond RE:[basinsinfo] BASINS NED Data to Download "Private list for BASINS users" Hi, I am trying to use the 30 m resolution NED Dataset. I downloaded the NED data from the BASINS interface and the elevation units are in cm. I assumed initially that the centimeters would be converted automatically to meters (which is the default). However, the numbers are getting carried over throughout the process and in HSPF as well. So, I am getting elevation drops of 900 ft whereas it should be around 7-9 ft. Also, BASINS is calculating zero slopes which is odd too. Could you please suggest a way around this problem? Thanks, Roop. This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ --- END OF MESSAGES ----------------------------------------------------------