From ntia Mon Nov 14 09:07:56 1994 Received: (from ntia@localhost) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA06933; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:07:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:07:56 -0800 From: NTIA Virtual Conference Message-Id: <199411141707.JAA06933@virtconf.digex.net> To: avail, intellec, opnacces, privacy, redefus, standard Subject: NTIA Virtual Conference KeyNote Address WELCOMING STATEMENT FROM DEPUTY SECRETARY OF COMMERCE DAVID BARRAM Welcome to the Virtual Conference on Universal Service and Open Access to the Telecommunications Network. In hosting this conference we seek to broaden our reach beyond the physical limits of any conference room or auditorium. The NII will tear down the barriers of time and distance. This conference, like the NII itself, is meant to be inclusive and your ideas are welcome and encouraged. Your participation will help make it a success. This effort is jointly sponsored by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) and the Information Infrastructure Task Force (IITF), as part of the Administration's National Information Infrastructure initiative. Through the NII, the Administration is focusing on the ability of computer mediated communications to enhance the life and work of every American. The NII is a harbinger of change, both economic and political, and holds great promise for the future of America. Some benefits of the NII include telecommuting, distance learning and active life-long education, remote consultations with expert medical professionals, as well as new forms of art, entertainment and culture. This conference continues the dialog started by NTIA's five field hearings, held over the past nine months in cities throughout America. Unlike the field hearings, this conference allows for a much wider participation, and more in-depth discussion on the issues. There are over 80 public access points in 25 states. With this conference we are hoping to:  Garner opinions and views on universal telecommunications service that may shape the legislative and regulatory debate.  Demonstrate how networking technology can broaden participation in the development of government policies, specifically, universal service telecommunications policy.  Illustrate the potential for using the NII to create an electronic commons.  Create a network of individuals and institutions that will continue the dialog started by the conference, once the formal sponsorship is over. This conference is an experiment in a new form of dialog among citizens and with their government. The conference is not a one- way, top down approach, it is a conversation. It holds the promise of reworking the compact between citizens and their government. I thank you once again for your participation. From <@QUCDN.QueensU.CA:andrukow@cspo.QueensU.CA> Mon Nov 14 10:01:23 1994 Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA (QUCDN.QueensU.CA [130.15.126.2]) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA10901 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:01:23 -0800 Received: from cspo.QueensU.CA by QUCDN.QueensU.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 14 Nov 94 09:52:36 EST Received: by cspo.QueensU.CA (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14342; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:54:11 +0600 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:54:10 -0600 (CST) From: Alison Andrukow X-Sender: andrukow@cspo To: intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 18 sign me on alison From <@QUCDN.QueensU.CA:andrukow@cspo.QueensU.CA> Mon Nov 14 10:36:02 1994 Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA (QUCDN.QueensU.CA [130.15.126.2]) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA14706 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:36:01 -0800 Received: from cspo.QueensU.CA by QUCDN.QueensU.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 14 Nov 94 10:27:16 EST Received: by cspo.QueensU.CA (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14527; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:28:55 +0600 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:28:55 -0600 (CST) From: Alison Andrukow X-Sender: andrukow@cspo To: intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov Subject: Subscribe Alison Andrukow Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 27 Subscribe Alison Andrukow From BEVR@ksgrsch.harvard.edu Mon Nov 14 11:03:21 1994 Received: from shango.harvard.edu (shango.harvard.edu [128.103.190.22]) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA16680 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 11:03:21 -0800 Received: from ksgrsch.harvard.edu by shango.harvard.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0r73om-000FBRC; Mon, 14 Nov 94 10:59 EST Received: from RESEARCH/MAILQUEUE by ksgrsch.harvard.edu (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 14 Nov 94 10:55:21 -500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by RESEARCH (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 14 Nov 94 10:55:20 -500 From: Organization: Kennedy School of Government To: intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:55:16 EST Subject: intellectual property Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <2DFA9705DCA@ksgrsch.harvard.edu> NTIA Virtual Conference Nov14-18: I would like to subscribe. 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From DMASSON@ucs.indiana.edu Mon Nov 14 13:59:11 1994 Received: from geneva.ucs.indiana.edu (portal.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.4.21]) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA25545 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:59:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199411142159.NAA25545@virtconf.digex.net> Received: from PRISM.DECnet by geneva.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/9.6jsm) id AA10480; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:02:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 13:03:17 EST From: DOUG MASSON X-To: PO%"intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov" Subject: Subscribe virt conference To: intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov Subscribe dmasson@indiana.edu "Doug Masson" From DMASSON@ucs.indiana.edu Mon Nov 14 14:48:34 1994 Received: from geneva.ucs.indiana.edu (portal.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.4.21]) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA02332 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 14:48:33 -0800 Message-Id: <199411142248.OAA02332@virtconf.digex.net> Received: from PRISM.DECnet by geneva.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/9.6jsm) id AA02703; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 14:23:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 14:40:41 EST From: DOUG MASSON X-To: PO%"intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov" Subject: Modifying existing Copyright law probably insufficient To: intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov It is usually the habit of legislators to modify old law in order to deal with new problems. Normally, this is somewhat desirable since it provides continuity and a degree of predictability. However, in the case of fashioning a copyright law that can deal with the exigencies of the new digital technology, I'm afraid the standard approach will be like trying to pound square pegs into round holes; sure it can be done if you pound hard enough, but you normally end up breaking the frame work. The basic reason why copyright can no longer operate as it does is because at its base, it assumes fixation of a work in the physical realm, subject to all the limitations of physical objects (ie scarcity and difficulty of transportation). Physical limitations play a very small role in the digital transmission of information, ideas, and the like. Any limitation based on physical existence must now be ineffective. It seems to me that the only way to protect the economic investment of the copyright holder must be rigidly limiting to the uses to which a work can be put without the express consent of the copyright holder if we are to play by the old rules in a digital age. Of course, I don't have a comprehensive vision of what the new regime should look like, but I suspect that, in order to preserve the rights of both society and the copyright holder, the whole of copyright law will end up looking like the fair use exception. But, then again, I suppose I'm falling into the trap of thinking in the old fashion, but it seems like without the existence of the physical product as a limiting factor, all decisions will have to be based on considerations of the nature of the work and the use. In any case, since my thinking is obviously drifting to the level of ramblings, my time is running short, I have a desire for feedback considering my premises before moving forward with them, and since I know my reading becomes less careful after the first couple of pages and I don't expect more from others; I shall pause this discussion in the hopes that others have thoughts on the matter. ===Doug Masson Indiana University School of Law From wc_resa@server.greatlakes.k12.mi.us Mon Nov 14 15:04:21 1994 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA03610 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:04:21 -0800 Received: from server.greatlakes.k12.mi.us (server.greatlakes.k12.mi.us [198.108.4.7]) by merit.edu (8.6.8.1/merit-1.0) with SMTP id OAA11009 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 14:56:28 -0500 Received: from [198.111.160.21] by server.greatlakes.k12.mi.us (4.1/1123-1.2) id AA07598; Mon, 14 Nov 94 14:57:53 EST Message-Id: <9411141957.AA07598@server.greatlakes.k12.mi.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 14:56:36 -0500 To: intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov From: wc_resa@server.greatlakes.k12.mi.us (Wayne County RESA) Subject: Re: [INTELLEC:6] Modifying existing Copyright law probably insufficient > >The basic reason why copyright can no longer operate as it does is >because at its base, it assumes fixation of a work in the physical >realm, subject to all the limitations of physical objects (ie >scarcity and difficulty of transportation).> >===Doug Masson > Indiana University School of Law I operate an information service for a regional educational service agency. One of the problems we run into is that we access a database and download the information but are forbidden to resend it digitally or post it to a bulletin board. We can, however, make print copy with the obligatory source noted. This hampers our turnaround time. I recognize that copyright protects the author or owner and it allows them to profit from their work but it has to be balanced with the need for information and its distribution. There are government sources we would like to see online and be FREE. They slowly are becoming so. But some of the privatized databases are not cheap to search and a number of libraries public or otherwise can't afford them economically. Its a dillema and a very real one for searchers/librarians trying to access and provide inforamtion. Federico Acerri From miriam@watson.ibm.com Mon Nov 14 15:09:00 1994 Received: from watson.ibm.com (watson.ibm.com [129.34.139.4]) by virtconf.digex.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04067 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:09:00 -0800 From: miriam@watson.ibm.com Message-Id: <199411142309.PAA04067@virtconf.digex.net> Received: from YKTVMV by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7483; Mon, 14 Nov 94 15:01:16 EST Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 15:00:42 EST To: intellec@virtconf.ntia.doc.gov Subject: [INTELLEC:7] Re: Modifying existing Copyright law probably insufficient Ref: Your note of Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:07:36 -0800 please cancel subscription