Here are the messages between 20080301 and 20080331. 1. Simulate multi-purpose reservoir 2. Re: Simulate multi-purpose reservoir 3. RE: Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a 2004HSPF project 4. Loading AQUATOX from BASINS and setup of HSPF. 5. Re: Loading AQUATOX from BASINS and setup of HSPF. 6. RE: Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a 2004HSPF project 7. RE: Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a 2004HSPF project 8. Re: Simulate multi-purpose reservoir 9. Modeling a Thermally Stratified Artificial Reservoir in BASINS 10. Displaying DRG and NAIP data in Basins 11. Re: Displaying DRG and NAIP data in Basins 12. Model versions in BASINS? 13. Clarification of HSPF Documentation 14. Sediment Diversion Option 15. RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation 16. Re: Model versions in BASINS? 17. RE: Model versions in BASINS? 18. RE: Model versions in BASINS? 19. nutrient simulation at hourly time step! 20. RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation 21. RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation 22. RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation 23. RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation 24. Lakes in BASINS, Dew point temp., WDM Utility 25. Calculate MET data 26. Re: Calculate MET data 27. RE: Calculate MET data 28. Re: Calculate MET data 29. Cloud Cover from Solar script 30. FTable Development from Rating Curves 31. BASINS on VISTA 32. Re: FTable Development from Rating Curves 33. Re: FTable Development from Rating Curves 34. Re: BASINS on VISTA 35. Re: BASINS on VISTA 36. General BASINS questions 37. RE: BASINS on VISTA 38. RE: General BASINS questions 39. RE: General BASINS questions 40. RE: BASINS on VISTA 41. BASINS/HSPF Training Workshop, July 14-18, 2008 42. Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 1 X-lyris-Id: 166881 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:04:14 -0800 (PST) From: Zili He Subject: Simulate multi-purpose reservoir --0-1204149656-1204574654=:2029 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear all There are two big lakes (multi-purpose reservoir) in the upper stream of watershed I studied. As a beginner, I need some reference and suggestions in detail on how to simulate these reservoirs with WinHSPF? I will highly appreciate your suggestions Thanks Zili ________________________________________________________________________________ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --0-1204149656-1204574654=:2029 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

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There are two big lakes (multi-purpose reservoir) in the upper stream of watershed I studied. As a beginner, I need some reference and suggestions in detail on how to simulate these reservoirs with WinHSPF?

 

I will highly appreciate your suggestions

 

Thanks

 

Zili

 

 

 

 


Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1204149656-1204574654=:2029-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 2 X-lyris-Id: 166888 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:22:29 -1000 From: Mery Apple Subject: Re: Simulate multi-purpose reservoir The BASINS Technical Note 1 should help you get started. You can find this on the BASINS Documentation page http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/bsnsdocs.html. I hope this helps. Mery Apple ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graduate Research Assistant University of Hawai'i at Manoa Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 1910 East-West Road Sherman Lab, Room 241 Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 Email: mery@hawaii.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: Zili He Date: Monday, March 3, 2008 10:08 am Subject: [basinsinfo] Simulate multi-purpose reservoir To: Private list for BASINS users > Dear all > > There are two big lakes (multi-purpose reservoir) in the upper > stream of watershed I studied. As a beginner, I need some > reference and suggestions in detail on how to simulate these > reservoirs with WinHSPF? > > I will highly appreciate your suggestions > > Thanks > > Zili > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ ____Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.govOR: > Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi- > bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo- > Owner@lists.epa.gov------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 3 X-lyris-Id: 166890 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:53:50 -0500 (EST) From: plapal1@umbc.edu Subject: RE: Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a 2004HSPF project Mr. Jobes, I have a couple follow-up questions, if you have time. Is there a certain way to rename a .inp as a .uci? I tried simply right clicking the .inp and typing 'patp13.uci' but that became the name and the filetype remained .inp. WinHSPF did not recognize it as a UCI from the File-->Open browser. I looked through the MESSU .ech file and found that it ended with the run's termination and showed an error saying that the WDMS routines were not successfully initialized. Might you know what is the problem behind this? Thanks again. > Peter, > > First of all, don't worry about .inp or .uci - the old DOS HSPF has no > assumed file extension. > The convention shifted from .inp to .uci beginning in the 1990s, and by > the time that WinHspf > was developed, the feeling was that the .uci extension was superior, as > it more clearly set apart > the files as HSPF inputs, whereas .inp seemed too generic. You should > be able to simply rename > the old file and open it in WinHspf. > > You probably cannot simply copy just the input tables, for example, from > the old to the new input > file because the segmentation, land uses, numbering scheme and such will > almost certainly differ > from the one you built with BASINS. But it is easy to tell how well the > resulting file is being > "assimilated" by reading the MESSU file (typically with .ech extension). > This file "echoes" what > is being read for each operation. > > If you can use the old file as is, then you should have no problems. > Running a subset is also easy, > as all you have to do is remove (or comment out) the unneeded operations > in OPN SEQUENCE. > If you need to update the segmentation, land use classification, etc, > however, you will have to > go through table by table and manually adapt the old parameters to your > new scheme. > > Hope this helps, > > Tom Jobes > St Johns River Water Management District > tjobes@sjrwmd.com > W: 386-328-4463 > C: 386-937-6341 > > -----Original Message----- > From: plapal1@umbc.edu [mailto:plapal1@umbc.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:15 PM > To: Private list for BASINS users > Subject: [basinsinfo] Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a > 2004HSPF project > > I am trying to recreate and edit a model used in a 2004 water quality > report created using HSPF. I have several .inp files which I believe > represent data for several sections of the watershed - I also have a > .wdm > and a wdm.txt file. The .inp files contain code (opened through notepad) > that is similar to the contents of a .uci, created by BASINS. Only one > of > the .inp files is relevant to the watershed I am interested in. > > I have created a new BASINS project for the gunpowder watershed, which > encompasses everything covered by the '04 report (including the Gwynns > Falls - my interest). After saving this basic project, a .uci was > created. > I copied the code from the 2004 .inp file and pasted it over the .uci > for > my new BASINS project. It's hard to tell if BASINS assimilated all of > the > relevant data, however. Could there be a problem caused by taking a .uci > and replacing all of its code with code that may only be relevant to a > small section of the overall watershed? > > Also - when launching WinHSPF from my BASINS project, everything seems > to > work normally. I had to fill out an Initial Met Segment with some > constituents and DSNs (HSPF was able to find them on its own, as many of > the constituents had only one dropdown-menu choice). After completing > this > table I saved the project and closed. Whenever I try to reopen it > winHSPF > gives me an error from the Hspf Engine: > ?Type Mismatch ReceiveMessage(ACTIVATE gf feb25 -1)." > gf feb25 is the name of the HSPF project. > > If I open WinHSPF through BASINS and save without closing it, a layout > of > the RCHRES in the watershed appears - so I launched GenScn to see if I > could recreate any of the output included in the 2004 report. However, > whenever I add Time Series to the list, a message shows that none of the > TS have any data. > > Sorry for the long questions. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. > > - Peter > > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at > basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 4 X-lyris-Id: 166891 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:52:20 +0100 From: Emma Radahl Subject: Loading AQUATOX from BASINS and setup of HSPF. --_34941317-9244-4b61-9d1a-1ecbb9651cd9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've encountered some problems when trying to load AQUATOX from BASINS. I j= ust get the error message that aquatox.exe cannot be found. =20 Should AQUATOX be installed at a certain location in order for BASINS to be= able to find it? Also, is BASINS 4 updated to link up with AQUATOX 2.2? (S= o I know I have the correct version.) =20 (That is a general question, in this new release of Basins, BASINS 4, what = model versions are used and able to link? HSPF 12 or HSPF 12.2? AQUATOX 2.2= ? PLOAD 3? What SWAT version will be included and will that also be able to= link to AQUATOX?) =20 I also have a question about the parameter setup of HSPF. When simulating h= ydrology and wanting to add the SNOW module in HSPF, the ATEMP, ICE-FLAG, S= NOW-FLAGS and SNOW-PARM2,3 - tables do not automatically become active (bol= d). Only the SNOW-PARM1-table does so. Why is this? I figured that the ICE-= FLAG and SNOW-FLAGS tables were important as well, along with the other par= ameter tables (since they do contain parameters that are said to be calibra= tion parameters in the tutorial). Is this a bug in the program or shouldn't= they be active for some reason? (I assume that only the parameters set in = tables that are active (bold) in the input data manager are used in the mod= el.) =20 Sincerely, Emma Radahl =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/= --_34941317-9244-4b61-9d1a-1ecbb9651cd9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've encountered some problems when trying to load AQUATOX from BASINS. I j= ust get the error message that aquatox.exe cannot be found.
 
Should AQUATOX be installed at a certain location in order for BASINS to be= able to find it? Also, is BASINS 4 updated to link up with AQUATOX 2.2? (S= o I know I have the correct version.)
 
(That is a general question, in this new release of Basins, BASINS 4, what = model versions are used and able to link? HSPF 12 or HSPF 12.2? AQUATOX 2.2= ? PLOAD 3? What SWAT version will be included and will that also be able to= link to AQUATOX?)
 
I also have a question about the parameter setup of HSPF. When simulating h= ydrology and wanting to add the SNOW module in HSPF, the ATEMP, ICE-FLAG, S= NOW-FLAGS and SNOW-PARM2,3 - tables do not automatically become active (bol= d). Only the SNOW-PARM1-table does so. Why is this? I figured that the ICE-= FLAG and SNOW-FLAGS tables were important as well, along with the other par= ameter tables (since they do contain parameters that are said to be calibra= tion parameters in the tutorial). Is this a bug in the program or shouldn't= they be active for some reason? (I assume that only the parameters set in = tables that are active (bold) in the input data manager are used in the mod= el.)
 
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl
 
 

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At 08:52 PM 3/3/2008, you wrote:
I've encountered some problems when trying to load AQUATOX from BASINS. I just get the error message that aquatox.exe cannot be found.
 
Should AQUATOX be installed at a certain location in order for BASINS to be able to find it? Also, is BASINS 4 updated to link up with AQUATOX 2.2? (So I know I have the correct version.)
 
(That is a general question, in this new release of Basins, BASINS 4, what model versions are used and able to link? HSPF 12 or HSPF 12.2? AQUATOX 2.2? PLOAD 3? What SWAT version will be included and will that also be able to link to AQUATOX?)
 
I also have a question about the parameter setup of HSPF. When simulating hydrology and wanting to add the SNOW module in HSPF, the ATEMP, ICE-FLAG, SNOW-FLAGS and SNOW-PARM2,3 - tables do not automatically become active (bold). Only the SNOW-PARM1-table does so. Why is this? I figured that the ICE-FLAG and SNOW-FLAGS tables were important as well, along with the other parameter tables (since they do contain parameters that are said to be calibration parameters in the tutorial). Is this a bug in the program or shouldn't they be active for some reason? (I assume that only the parameters set in tables that are active (bold) in the input data manager are used in the model.)
 
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl
 
 

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----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 6 X-lyris-Id: 166899 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:59:41 -0500 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a 2004HSPF project Peter, I think the problem with renaming has to do with hidden file extensions. It may be that patp13.inp is being renamed to patp13.uci.inp rather than patp13.uci. The fact that it is still listed as type INP is what makes me suspect that. Also, when you change file extensions, you'll typically be asked to confirm, with a warning that the file may become unusable. (This warning can be safely ignored in this case, but you should still see it.) In Windows Explorer, open the Tools menu, and click Folder Options. Then select the View=20 tab. Find the entry "Hide extensions for known file types" and turn it off. This will allow you to be sure that you're seeing and changing the full filename. As far as failure of the WDM routine initialization, I'll need to dig a bit further, but I suspect that your WDM file is corrupt. Try opening with WDMUtil. If this works okay, then we'll have to do some more thinking. Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: plapal1@umbc.edu [mailto:plapal1@umbc.edu]=20 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:54 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a 2004HSPF project Mr. Jobes, I have a couple follow-up questions, if you have time. Is there a certain way to rename a .inp as a .uci? I tried simply right clicking the .inp and typing 'patp13.uci' but that became the name and the filetype remained .inp. WinHSPF did not recognize it as a UCI from the File-->Open browser. I looked through the MESSU .ech file and found that it ended with the run's termination and showed an error saying that the WDMS routines were not successfully initialized. Might you know what is the problem behind this? Thanks again. > Peter, > > First of all, don't worry about .inp or .uci - the old DOS HSPF has no > assumed file extension. > The convention shifted from .inp to .uci beginning in the 1990s, and by > the time that WinHspf > was developed, the feeling was that the .uci extension was superior, as > it more clearly set apart > the files as HSPF inputs, whereas .inp seemed too generic. You should > be able to simply rename > the old file and open it in WinHspf. > > You probably cannot simply copy just the input tables, for example, from > the old to the new input > file because the segmentation, land uses, numbering scheme and such will > almost certainly differ > from the one you built with BASINS. But it is easy to tell how well the > resulting file is being > "assimilated" by reading the MESSU file (typically with .ech extension). > This file "echoes" what > is being read for each operation. > > If you can use the old file as is, then you should have no problems. > Running a subset is also easy, > as all you have to do is remove (or comment out) the unneeded operations > in OPN SEQUENCE. > If you need to update the segmentation, land use classification, etc, > however, you will have to > go through table by table and manually adapt the old parameters to your > new scheme. > > Hope this helps, > > Tom Jobes > St Johns River Water Management District > tjobes@sjrwmd.com > W: 386-328-4463 > C: 386-937-6341 > > -----Original Message----- > From: plapal1@umbc.edu [mailto:plapal1@umbc.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:15 PM > To: Private list for BASINS users > Subject: [basinsinfo] Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a > 2004HSPF project > > I am trying to recreate and edit a model used in a 2004 water quality > report created using HSPF. I have several .inp files which I believe > represent data for several sections of the watershed - I also have a > .wdm > and a wdm.txt file. The .inp files contain code (opened through notepad) > that is similar to the contents of a .uci, created by BASINS. Only one > of > the .inp files is relevant to the watershed I am interested in. > > I have created a new BASINS project for the gunpowder watershed, which > encompasses everything covered by the '04 report (including the Gwynns > Falls - my interest). After saving this basic project, a .uci was > created. > I copied the code from the 2004 .inp file and pasted it over the .uci > for > my new BASINS project. It's hard to tell if BASINS assimilated all of > the > relevant data, however. Could there be a problem caused by taking a .uci > and replacing all of its code with code that may only be relevant to a > small section of the overall watershed? > > Also - when launching WinHSPF from my BASINS project, everything seems > to > work normally. I had to fill out an Initial Met Segment with some > constituents and DSNs (HSPF was able to find them on its own, as many of > the constituents had only one dropdown-menu choice). After completing > this > table I saved the project and closed. Whenever I try to reopen it > winHSPF > gives me an error from the Hspf Engine: > ?Type Mismatch ReceiveMessage(ACTIVATE gf feb25 -1)." > gf feb25 is the name of the HSPF project. > > If I open WinHSPF through BASINS and save without closing it, a layout > of > the RCHRES in the watershed appears - so I launched GenScn to see if I > could recreate any of the output included in the 2004 report. However, > whenever I add Time Series to the list, a message shows that none of the > TS have any data. > > Sorry for the long questions. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. > > - Peter > > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at > basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 7 X-lyris-Id: 166904 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: plapal1@umbc.edu Subject: RE: Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a 2004HSPF project I'll be back in the office on Wednesday to try this out. Thank you. > Peter, > > I think the problem with renaming has to do with hidden file extensions. > It may be that > patp13.inp is being renamed to patp13.uci.inp rather than patp13.uci. > The fact that it is > still listed as type INP is what makes me suspect that. Also, when you > change file extensions, > you'll typically be asked to confirm, with a warning that the file may > become unusable. (This > warning can be safely ignored in this case, but you should still see > it.) > > In Windows Explorer, open the Tools menu, and click Folder Options. > Then select the View > tab. Find the entry "Hide extensions for known file types" and turn it > off. This will allow > you to be sure that you're seeing and changing the full filename. > > As far as failure of the WDM routine initialization, I'll need to dig a > bit further, but I suspect > that your WDM file is corrupt. Try opening with WDMUtil. If this > works okay, then we'll > have to do some more thinking. > > Tom Jobes > St Johns River Water Management District > tjobes@sjrwmd.com > W: 386-328-4463 > C: 386-937-6341 > > -----Original Message----- > From: plapal1@umbc.edu [mailto:plapal1@umbc.edu] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:54 PM > To: Private list for BASINS users > Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a > 2004HSPF project > > Mr. Jobes, > > I have a couple follow-up questions, if you have time. Is there a > certain > way to rename a .inp as a .uci? I tried simply right clicking the .inp > and > typing 'patp13.uci' but that became the name and the filetype remained > .inp. WinHSPF did not recognize it as a UCI from the File-->Open > browser. > > I looked through the MESSU .ech file and found that it ended with the > run's termination and showed an error saying that the WDMS routines were > not successfully initialized. Might you know what is the problem behind > this? > > Thanks again. > > >> Peter, >> >> First of all, don't worry about .inp or .uci - the old DOS HSPF has no >> assumed file extension. >> The convention shifted from .inp to .uci beginning in the 1990s, and > by >> the time that WinHspf >> was developed, the feeling was that the .uci extension was superior, > as >> it more clearly set apart >> the files as HSPF inputs, whereas .inp seemed too generic. You should >> be able to simply rename >> the old file and open it in WinHspf. >> >> You probably cannot simply copy just the input tables, for example, > from >> the old to the new input >> file because the segmentation, land uses, numbering scheme and such > will >> almost certainly differ >> from the one you built with BASINS. But it is easy to tell how well > the >> resulting file is being >> "assimilated" by reading the MESSU file (typically with .ech > extension). >> This file "echoes" what >> is being read for each operation. >> >> If you can use the old file as is, then you should have no problems. >> Running a subset is also easy, >> as all you have to do is remove (or comment out) the unneeded > operations >> in OPN SEQUENCE. >> If you need to update the segmentation, land use classification, etc, >> however, you will have to >> go through table by table and manually adapt the old parameters to > your >> new scheme. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Tom Jobes >> St Johns River Water Management District >> tjobes@sjrwmd.com >> W: 386-328-4463 >> C: 386-937-6341 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: plapal1@umbc.edu [mailto:plapal1@umbc.edu] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:15 PM >> To: Private list for BASINS users >> Subject: [basinsinfo] Creating a BASINS4.0 and HSPF project from a >> 2004HSPF project >> >> I am trying to recreate and edit a model used in a 2004 water quality >> report created using HSPF. I have several .inp files which I believe >> represent data for several sections of the watershed - I also have a >> .wdm >> and a wdm.txt file. The .inp files contain code (opened through > notepad) >> that is similar to the contents of a .uci, created by BASINS. Only one >> of >> the .inp files is relevant to the watershed I am interested in. >> >> I have created a new BASINS project for the gunpowder watershed, which >> encompasses everything covered by the '04 report (including the Gwynns >> Falls - my interest). After saving this basic project, a .uci was >> created. >> I copied the code from the 2004 .inp file and pasted it over the .uci >> for >> my new BASINS project. It's hard to tell if BASINS assimilated all of >> the >> relevant data, however. Could there be a problem caused by taking a > .uci >> and replacing all of its code with code that may only be relevant to a >> small section of the overall watershed? >> >> Also - when launching WinHSPF from my BASINS project, everything seems >> to >> work normally. I had to fill out an Initial Met Segment with some >> constituents and DSNs (HSPF was able to find them on its own, as many > of >> the constituents had only one dropdown-menu choice). After completing >> this >> table I saved the project and closed. Whenever I try to reopen it >> winHSPF >> gives me an error from the Hspf Engine: >> ?Type Mismatch ReceiveMessage(ACTIVATE gf feb25 -1)." >> gf feb25 is the name of the HSPF project. >> >> If I open WinHSPF through BASINS and save without closing it, a layout >> of >> the RCHRES in the watershed appears - so I launched GenScn to see if I >> could recreate any of the output included in the 2004 report. However, >> whenever I add Time Series to the list, a message shows that none of > the >> TS have any data. >> >> Sorry for the long questions. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. >> >> - Peter >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. >> >> To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to >> lyris@lists.epa.gov >> OR: >> Use the listserver's web interface at >> https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your >> subscription. >> OR >> Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at >> basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov >> ------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. >> >> To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to >> lyris@lists.epa.gov >> OR: >> Use the listserver's web interface at >> https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your >> subscription. >> OR >> Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at > basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov >> ------------------------------------------ >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at > basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 8 X-lyris-Id: 166906 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:42:46 -0500 From: Mohamoud.Yusuf@epamail.epa.gov Subject: Re: Simulate multi-purpose reservoir Zili, HSPF has the flexibility to represent reservoirs. However, accurate representation would depend on data availability. If you have elevation-area-volume relationships of these reservoirs, you can use that data to build the first three columns of the FTABLE. If you know the elevation (depth) and the type of flow control devices of each reservoir, you can also build the fourth, fifth etc. columns of the FTABLE. Note that the number of columns would depend on the number of flow control structures (orifices and weirs). If you do not have existing elevation, area, volume tables or plots for the reservoirs, you can use several cross-sections (x and y) and the length between them to build an FTABLE. You can use the natural channel option of the HSPF webtool. Please follow this link. http://www.epa.gov/athens/research/modeling/ftable/index.htm If you have no cross-section data, but would like to run preliminary model simulations, you need to create an FTABLE that have an approximate elevation or depth, surface area, and storage of each reservoir. It may take several trial FTABLES and HSPF runs to get an FTABLE that has the storage and outflow characteristics of each reservoir. You can find more help on FTABLEs for streams and reservoirs in Basins Technical Note 1, 2, and 9 at this website. http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/bsnsdocs.html Yusuf Mohamoud Ph.D., P.E. Research Hydrologist Ecosystems Research Division 960 College Station Road Athens, Georgia 30605 Tel 706-355-8109 Fax 706-355-8104 Zili He To "Private list for BASINS users" 03/03/2008 03:04 PM cc Subject Please respond [basinsinfo] Simulate to multi-purpose reservoir "Private list for BASINS users" Dear all There are two big lakes (multi-purpose reservoir) in the upper stream of watershed I studied. As a beginner, I need some reference and suggestions in detail on how to simulate these reservoirs with WinHSPF? I will highly appreciate your suggestions Thanks Zili Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 9 X-lyris-Id: 166940 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:05:10 -0800 From: "Andrew McLaren" Subject: Modeling a Thermally Stratified Artificial Reservoir in BASINS This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C87F36.E73A2C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello to the many BASINS & Modeling experts out there, I have started setting up the rainfall and other data in the Hartbeespoort Dam Catchment in a WDM file for use in BASINS. Some (unnamed) members of the team that is involved in the efforts to remediate the very seriously impacted, through nutrient enrichment, dam are negative about the use of BASINS in South Africa. One of the questions that these guys ask, and for which I have no real reply to, is: "How are you going to handle the modeling of the actual dam as part of the overall river system?" The Hartbeespoort Dam is probably the most seriously impacted artificial dam in the world. Or at least one of the top contenders for this dishonor! Much of the information about the dam and the remediation plans can be found on the website referenced below. In essence the inflow is dominated by the Crocodile River (about 95+% of both nutrient load and flow) with the remainder contributed by two minor rivers and another number of small creeks. I am particularly interested in generalized advice on how the movement of influent water and the associated nutrients and sediment behave when the inflow is at a temperature (really density) either above or below that of the upper layers of water in the dam. Any guidance on the most appropriate models to use, those that can "accept" flow simulated in HSPF and pass the outflow from the dam back into an HSPF model of the river downstream of the dam. An accurate survey of the original as well present dam bottom, as changed by sedimentation, is avaiable. I do well realize that my question is very broad, but any guidance will be appreciated. Andrew McLaren Integrated Monitoring http://www.dwaf.gov.za/Harties Andrew.McLaren@vodamail.co.za Cellphone: 082 654 6474 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C87F36.E73A2C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello to the many BASINS & Modeling experts out = there,

 

I have started setting up the rainfall and other data = in the Hartbeespoort Dam Catchment in a WDM file for use in BASINS. Some = (unnamed) members of the team that is involved in the efforts to remediate the very = seriously impacted, through nutrient enrichment, dam are negative about the use of = BASINS in South = Africa. One of the questions that these guys ask, and for which I have no real = reply to, is: “How are you going to handle the modeling of the actual dam as = part of the overall river system?”

 

The Hartbeespoort Dam is probably the most seriously = impacted artificial dam in the world. Or at least one of the top contenders for = this dishonor! Much of the information about the dam and the remediation = plans can be found on the website referenced below. In essence the inflow is = dominated by the Crocodile River (about 95+% of = both nutrient load and flow) with the remainder contributed by two minor = rivers and another number of small creeks. I am particularly interested in = generalized advice on how the movement of influent water and the associated nutrients and = sediment behave when the inflow is at a temperature (really density) either above = or below that of the upper layers of water in the dam. Any guidance on the = most appropriate models to use, those that can “accept” flow = simulated in HSPF and pass the outflow from the dam back into an HSPF model of the = river downstream of the dam. An accurate survey of the original as well = present dam bottom, as changed by sedimentation, is = avaiable.

 

I do well realize that my question is very broad, but = any guidance will be appreciated.

 

Andrew McLaren

Integrated Monitoring

http://www.dwaf.g= ov.za/Harties

Andrew.McLaren@vo= damail.co.za

Cellphone:   082 654 = 6474

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C87F36.E73A2C50-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 10 X-lyris-Id: 166951 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:42:34 -0000 From: "David Goldblatt" Subject: Displaying DRG and NAIP data in Basins I am having trouble importing rasters to BASINS. Is there a specific format that is required? MRSID doesn't seems to work, and I am finding it difficult to convert those to GRIDs. Is it possible to add IMS services to display data in BASINS? I usually work in AcrGIS 9.2, but am teaching a class on wetland delineation and needed a free GIS that students can use to create shapefiles. Thanks, David ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 11 X-lyris-Id: 166990 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:04:40 -0700 From: "Daniel Ames" Subject: Re: Displaying DRG and NAIP data in Basins ------=_Part_37386_32024607.1204736680902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline David, Most MRSID files should work in BASINS. You can also work with GeoTiff, and various other raster formats. We also have an IMS plugin in testing mode that you could try. Please email me directly if you'd like me to send it to you... Thanks, Dan On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Goldblatt wrote: > I am having trouble importing rasters to BASINS. Is there a specific > format that is required? MRSID doesn't seems to work, and I am finding it > difficult to convert those to GRIDs. Is it possible to add IMS services to > display data in BASINS? I usually work in AcrGIS 9.2, but am teaching a > class on wetland delineation and needed a free GIS that students can use to > create shapefiles. > > Thanks, > David > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesdani@isu.edu www.hydromap.com ------=_Part_37386_32024607.1204736680902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline David,

Most MRSID files should work in BASINS. You can also work with GeoTiff, and various other raster formats.  We also have an IMS plugin in testing mode that you could try.  Please email me directly if you'd like me to send it to you...

Thanks,

Dan

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Goldblatt <dgoldb2@luc.edu> wrote:
I am having trouble importing rasters to BASINS.  Is there a specific format that is required?  MRSID doesn't seems to work, and I am finding it difficult to convert those to GRIDs.  Is it possible to add IMS services to display data in BASINS?  I usually work in AcrGIS 9.2, but am teaching a class on wetland delineation and needed a free GIS that students can use to create shapefiles.

Thanks,
David

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------=_Part_37386_32024607.1204736680902-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 12 X-lyris-Id: 167180 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:35 +0100 From: Emma Radahl Subject: Model versions in BASINS? --_e6bba51c-f321-4543-81f4-6002c26ce47d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, What versions of the HSPF-model and PLOAD-model are currently linked in to the latest update of BASINS 4? I've seen both HSPF 12.0 and HSPF 12.2, and PLOAD I'm not sure of at all what version, I only seem to have an older PLOAD user's manual. =20 Also, what version of SWAT will be linked in to BASINS 4? SWAT2000 or SWAT2= 005?=20 The Map Window version is 4.4?=20 Finally, I'm also wondering if the linkage between the HSPF-version include= d in BASINS 4 and AQUATOX 2.2 works? (I haven't been able to run a complete= HSPF-run, so I haven't been able to test it). I'm feeling rather confused by all the different versions of the models in = BASINS... Sincerely, Emma Radahl, Sweden =20 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/= --_e6bba51c-f321-4543-81f4-6002c26ce47d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,

What versions of the HSPF-model and PLOAD-model are currently linked in to the latest update of BASINS 4? I've seen both HSPF 12.0 and HSPF 12.2, and PLOAD I'm not sure of at all what version, I only seem to have an older PLOAD user's manual. 
Also, what version of SWAT will be linked in to BASINS 4? SWAT2000 or SWAT2= 005?
The Map Window version is 4.4?
Finally, I'm also wondering if the linka= ge between the HSPF-version included in BASINS 4 and AQUATOX 2.2 works? (I = haven't been able to run a complete HSPF-run, so I haven't been able to tes= t it).

I'm feeling rather confused by all the different versions of = the models in BASINS...

Sincerely,
Emma Radahl, Sweden

Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messeng= er = --_e6bba51c-f321-4543-81f4-6002c26ce47d_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 13 X-lyris-Id: 167183 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:47:26 -0400 From: "Chin, David A." Subject: Clarification of HSPF Documentation Hi, The HSPF documentation seems to be missing specific equations on how the fo= llowing processes are quantified: (1) inflow into interflow storage (given the potential interflow inflow) (2) potential ET demand on upper zone storage when UZS/UZSN < 2 It would be helpful if someone (Tom?) could let me know the equations used = in HSPF for these processes. Thanks! David Chin ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 14 X-lyris-Id: 167184 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:04:12 -0700 From: "Pak, Jay H HEC" Subject: Sediment Diversion Option Hello, Is there a sediment diversion option or way for each grain size (clay, = silt, sand and gravel) from the main channel to diversion channels in HSPF or = SWAT? Thanks,=20 Jay Pak ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 15 X-lyris-Id: 167201 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:25:10 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, Sure, I'll take a stab at these... (1) The Functional Description contains this, though perhaps it's not as obvious as it should be. * The diagram for subroutine SURFAC shows the relationship of interflow inflow and infiltration capacity, and the equation for RATIO is given just above it. =20 * The Description for subroutine DISPOS describes (but does not explicitly state) the equation IIBAR=3DIBAR * RATIO=20 and similarly for IIMIN and IIMAX. Also described (only) on this page is the that subroutine DIVISN is called to compute the areas under each of the lines in the SURFAC diagram. =20 * Infiltration INFIL is set to the full area below the IBAR line. =20 * Potential direct runoff PDRO is then simply the total above the first line (if any). This=20 is divided (by DIVISN again) into potential interflow inflow PIFWI, which is the incremental=20 area under the IIBAR line, and potential surface runoff PSUR is the remaining area above both. * UZINF computes the fraction UZFRAC of PIFWI and PSUR that becomes inflow to the upper=20 zone UZI instead.=20 * PIFWI and PSUR are reduced via multiplication by (1.0-UZFRAC) to account for losses to UZI. The former gives you IFWI, which is what you asked, and the latter gives you the new overland flowplane inflow, which is added to SURS and then routed using subroutine PROUTE. (2) The Functional Description for subroutine ETUZON is a little vague, yes. The reduction is simply linear, so that the potential evap from the upper zone UZPET drops from REMPET to zero as UZRAT=3DUZS/UZSN drops from 2 to zero. UZET is then just the lesser of UZPET and UZS. Hope this helps, Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:47 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Hi, The HSPF documentation seems to be missing specific equations on how the following processes are quantified: (1) inflow into interflow storage (given the potential interflow inflow) (2) potential ET demand on upper zone storage when UZS/UZSN < 2 It would be helpful if someone (Tom?) could let me know the equations used in HSPF for these processes. Thanks! David Chin ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 16 X-lyris-Id: 167218 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:44:10 -0400 From: Jonathan Clough Subject: Re: Model versions in BASINS? This response pertains to only the AQUATOX portion of Emma's question, can somebody else please address her questions about HSPF, PLOAD, SWAT, and MapWindow?

Regarding the WinHSPF to AQUATOX linkage, The link between BASINS4 WinHSPF and AQUATOX 2.2 and the link between BASINS4 WinHSPF and AQUATOX 3 both have been tested and appear to have no problems.  The problem is in the less-important BASINS4 GIS to AQUATOX linkage.  This problem has been addressed in the BASINS4 code and will be fixed in the forthcoming BASINS4 update.  For more information about the linkages between AQUATOX and BASINS, and what parameters are passed in each case, please see the following file:  http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/models/aquatox/technical/basins.pdf

-- Jonathan

At 09:31 AM 3/11/2008, you wrote:
Hello,

What versions of the HSPF-model and PLOAD-model are currently linked in to the latest update of BASINS 4? I've seen both HSPF 12.0 and HSPF 12.2, and PLOAD I'm not sure of at all what version, I only seem to have an older PLOAD user's manual. 
Also, what version of SWAT will be linked in to BASINS 4? SWAT2000 or SWAT2005?
The Map Window version is 4.4?
Finally, I'm also wondering if the linkage between the HSPF-version included in BASINS 4 and AQUATOX 2.2 works? (I haven't been able to run a complete HSPF-run, so I haven't been able to test it).

I'm feeling rather confused by all the different versions of the models in BASINS...

Sincerely,
Emma Radahl, Sweden


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----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 17 X-lyris-Id: 167226 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:34:20 -0400 From: "Paul Duda" Subject: RE: Model versions in BASINS? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C88384.FE7373C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Emma, HSPF is version 12.2. PLOAD has a new user interface for BASINS 4.0, but the underlying calculations are the same as the earlier versions of BASINS. There is no longer a seperate PLOAD user's manual; it is now documented with the rest of BASINS 4.0 in that user's manual. The MapWindow version in the November BASINS 4.0 update is version 4.4. Paul Duda AQUA TERRA Consultants -----Original Message----- From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:32 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Model versions in BASINS? Hello, What versions of the HSPF-model and PLOAD-model are currently linked in to the latest update of BASINS 4? I've seen both HSPF 12.0 and HSPF 12.2, and PLOAD I'm not sure of at all what version, I only seem to have an older PLOAD user's manual. Also, what version of SWAT will be linked in to BASINS 4? SWAT2000 or SWAT2005? The Map Window version is 4.4? Finally, I'm also wondering if the linkage between the HSPF-version included in BASINS 4 and AQUATOX 2.2 works? (I haven't been able to run a complete HSPF-run, so I haven't been able to test it). I'm feeling rather confused by all the different versions of the models in BASINS... Sincerely, Emma Radahl, Sweden ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C88384.FE7373C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Emma,
 
HSPF is=20 version 12.2. 
 
PLOAD has a=20 new user interface for BASINS 4.0, but the underlying calculations are = the same=20 as the earlier versions of BASINS.  There is no longer a seperate = PLOAD=20 user's manual; it is now documented with the rest of BASINS 4.0 in that = user's=20 manual.
 
The MapWindow=20 version in the November BASINS 4.0 update is version = 4.4.
 
Paul=20 Duda
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 = 9:32=20 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: = [basinsinfo]=20 Model versions in BASINS?

Hello,

What = versions of=20 the HSPF-model and PLOAD-model are currently linked in to the latest = update of=20 BASINS 4? I've seen both HSPF 12.0 and HSPF 12.2, and PLOAD I'm not = sure of at=20 all what version, I only seem to have an older PLOAD user's = manual. =20
Also, what version of SWAT will be linked in to BASINS 4? SWAT2000 = or=20 SWAT2005?
The Map Window version is 4.4?
Finally, I'm also = wondering=20 if the linkage between the HSPF-version included in BASINS 4 and = AQUATOX 2.2=20 works? (I haven't been able to run a complete HSPF-run, so I haven't = been able=20 to test it).

I'm feeling rather confused by all the different = versions=20 of the models in BASINS...

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Emma Radahl,=20 Sweden


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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C88384.FE7373C0-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 18 X-lyris-Id: 167228 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:00:36 -0400 From: "Bijhouwer, Paul LRB" Subject: RE: Model versions in BASINS? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C883AA.30B96514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see no response addressing SWAT yet. Some traffic on this list back = in June of last year indicated that SWAT2005 was being migrated to BASINS4. Status update on this effort? =20 =20 Thanks, Paul =20 ________________________________ From: Paul Duda [mailto:pbduda@aquaterra.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:34 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Model versions in BASINS? Hi Emma, =20 HSPF is version 12.2. =20 =20 PLOAD has a new user interface for BASINS 4.0, but the underlying calculations are the same as the earlier versions of BASINS. There is = no longer a seperate PLOAD user's manual; it is now documented with the = rest of BASINS 4.0 in that user's manual. =20 The MapWindow version in the November BASINS 4.0 update is version 4.4. =20 Paul Duda AQUA TERRA Consultants -----Original Message----- From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:32 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Model versions in BASINS? =09 =09 Hello, =09 What versions of the HSPF-model and PLOAD-model are currently linked in to the latest update of BASINS 4? I've seen both HSPF 12.0 and HSPF = 12.2, and PLOAD I'm not sure of at all what version, I only seem to have an = older PLOAD user's manual. =20 Also, what version of SWAT will be linked in to BASINS 4? SWAT2000 or SWAT2005?=20 The Map Window version is 4.4?=20 Finally, I'm also wondering if the linkage between the HSPF-version included in BASINS 4 and AQUATOX 2.2 works? (I haven't been able to run = a complete HSPF-run, so I haven't been able to test it). =09 I'm feeling rather confused by all the different versions of the models in BASINS... =09 Sincerely, Emma Radahl, Sweden =09 =09 =09 ________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 =09 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 =09 ________________________________ If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam =20 ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to = lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at = https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at = basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C883AA.30B96514 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I see no response addressing SWAT yet.  Some = traffic on this=20 list back in June of last year indicated that SWAT2005 was being = migrated to=20 BASINS4.  Status update on this effort? 
 
Thanks,
Paul
 

From: Paul Duda [mailto:pbduda@aquaterra.com] =
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:34 PM
To: Private = list for=20 BASINS users
Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Model versions in=20 BASINS?

Hi=20 Emma,
 
HSPF is=20 version 12.2. 
 
PLOAD has a=20 new user interface for BASINS 4.0, but the underlying calculations are = the same=20 as the earlier versions of BASINS.  There is no longer a seperate = PLOAD=20 user's manual; it is now documented with the rest of BASINS 4.0 in that = user's=20 manual.
 
The MapWindow=20 version in the November BASINS 4.0 update is version = 4.4.
 
Paul=20 Duda
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-----Original Message-----
From: Emma Radahl=20 [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 = 9:32=20 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: = [basinsinfo]=20 Model versions in BASINS?

Hello,

What = versions of=20 the HSPF-model and PLOAD-model are currently linked in to the latest = update of=20 BASINS 4? I've seen both HSPF 12.0 and HSPF 12.2, and PLOAD I'm not = sure of at=20 all what version, I only seem to have an older PLOAD user's = manual. =20
Also, what version of SWAT will be linked in to BASINS 4? SWAT2000 = or=20 SWAT2005?
The Map Window version is 4.4?
Finally, I'm also = wondering=20 if the linkage between the HSPF-version included in BASINS 4 and = AQUATOX 2.2=20 works? (I haven't been able to run a complete HSPF-run, so I haven't = been able=20 to test it).

I'm feeling rather confused by all the different = versions=20 of the models in BASINS...

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------------------------------------------ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C883AA.30B96514-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 19 X-lyris-Id: 167230 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:35:36 +0100 From: Hong Quan Nguyen Subject: nutrient simulation at hourly time step! Dear All, I am very sorry to raise this question again. Is it possible to simulate nutrient dynamic at hourly time step in HSPF? Thanks in advanced, Best regards, Quan ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 20 X-lyris-Id: 167236 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:24:18 -0400 From: "Chin, David A." Subject: RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation Tom, Thanks for the response. On point (1), I have two follow-up questions: (a) according to the document= ation, UZINF computes FRAC, is this the same as the UZFRAC that you mentio= n?; (b) I can see where FRAC*PDRO is added to UZS and (1-FRAC)*PDRO is adde= d to SURS, but how do you calculate the contribution to IFWS? Hope this question makes sense to you. Thanks, David _____________________________________ From: Tom Jobes [tjobes@sjrwmd.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:25 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, Sure, I'll take a stab at these... (1) The Functional Description contains this, though perhaps it's not as obvious as it should be. * The diagram for subroutine SURFAC shows the relationship of interflow inflow and infiltration capacity, and the equation for RATIO is given just above it. * The Description for subroutine DISPOS describes (but does not explicitly state) the equation IIBAR=3DIBAR * RATIO and similarly for IIMIN and IIMAX. Also described (only) on this page is the that subroutine DIVISN is called to compute the areas under each of the lines in the SURFAC diagram. * Infiltration INFIL is set to the full area below the IBAR line. * Potential direct runoff PDRO is then simply the total above the first line (if any). This is divided (by DIVISN again) into potential interflow inflow PIFWI, which is the incremental area under the IIBAR line, and potential surface runoff PSUR is the remaining area above both. * UZINF computes the fraction UZFRAC of PIFWI and PSUR that becomes inflow to the upper zone UZI instead. * PIFWI and PSUR are reduced via multiplication by (1.0-UZFRAC) to account for losses to UZI. The former gives you IFWI, which is what you asked, and the latter gives you the new overland flowplane inflow, which is added to SURS and then routed using subroutine PROUTE. (2) The Functional Description for subroutine ETUZON is a little vague, yes. The reduction is simply linear, so that the potential evap from the upper zone UZPET drops from REMPET to zero as UZRAT=3DUZS/UZSN drops from 2 to zero. UZET is then just the lesser of UZPET and UZS. Hope this helps, Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:47 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Hi, The HSPF documentation seems to be missing specific equations on how the following processes are quantified: (1) inflow into interflow storage (given the potential interflow inflow) (2) potential ET demand on upper zone storage when UZS/UZSN < 2 It would be helpful if someone (Tom?) could let me know the equations used in HSPF for these processes. Thanks! David Chin ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. 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OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 21 X-lyris-Id: 167340 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:43:27 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, (a) Yes, FRAC inside the UZINF routines described in the manual is the same as UZFRAC in the calling routine I referred to before. (b) You are correct that (UZ)FRAC * PDRO is the upper zone inflow UZI, and thus added to UZS. However, (1-FRAC) is applied not to PDRO (potential direct runoff: the amount of available water above the infiltration line), but separately to its two components:=20 PSUR (potential surface runoff: the portion above the interflow line) and PIFWI (potential interflow inflow: between the two lines). =20 This is done in DISPOS. The reduced PSUR is passed to PROUTE to be added to SURS for overland flow routing in subroutine PROUTE,=20 and the reduced PIFWI equals actual IFWI (interflow inflow). Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:24 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Tom, Thanks for the response. On point (1), I have two follow-up questions: (a) according to the documentation, UZINF computes FRAC, is this the same as the UZFRAC that you mention?; (b) I can see where FRAC*PDRO is added to UZS and (1-FRAC)*PDRO is added to SURS, but how do you calculate the contribution to IFWS? Hope this question makes sense to you. Thanks, David _____________________________________ From: Tom Jobes [tjobes@sjrwmd.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:25 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, Sure, I'll take a stab at these... (1) The Functional Description contains this, though perhaps it's not as obvious as it should be. * The diagram for subroutine SURFAC shows the relationship of interflow inflow and infiltration capacity, and the equation for RATIO is given just above it. * The Description for subroutine DISPOS describes (but does not explicitly state) the equation IIBAR=3DIBAR * RATIO and similarly for IIMIN and IIMAX. Also described (only) on this page is the that subroutine DIVISN is called to compute the areas under each of the lines in the SURFAC diagram. * Infiltration INFIL is set to the full area below the IBAR line. * Potential direct runoff PDRO is then simply the total above the first line (if any). This is divided (by DIVISN again) into potential interflow inflow PIFWI, which is the incremental area under the IIBAR line, and potential surface runoff PSUR is the remaining area above both. * UZINF computes the fraction UZFRAC of PIFWI and PSUR that becomes inflow to the upper zone UZI instead. * PIFWI and PSUR are reduced via multiplication by (1.0-UZFRAC) to account for losses to UZI. The former gives you IFWI, which is what you asked, and the latter gives you the new overland flowplane inflow, which is added to SURS and then routed using subroutine PROUTE. (2) The Functional Description for subroutine ETUZON is a little vague, yes. The reduction is simply linear, so that the potential evap from the upper zone UZPET drops from REMPET to zero as UZRAT=3DUZS/UZSN drops from 2 to zero. UZET is then just the lesser of UZPET and UZS. Hope this helps, Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:47 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Hi, The HSPF documentation seems to be missing specific equations on how the following processes are quantified: (1) inflow into interflow storage (given the potential interflow inflow) (2) potential ET demand on upper zone storage when UZS/UZSN < 2 It would be helpful if someone (Tom?) could let me know the equations used in HSPF for these processes. Thanks! David Chin ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. 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OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 22 X-lyris-Id: 167350 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:13 -0400 From: "Chin, David A." Subject: RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation Tom, Thanks for the response...it is now clear. Can you explain to me the following: I am looking at the runoff from a single pervious land segment for the firs= t 1-h time increment of a simulation where LSUR=3D300, SLSUR=3D0.043805, NS= UR=3D0.2, PSUR =3D0.0 (no precipitation in first hour), PEVT=3D0.0 (no ET i= n first hour), and SURS=3D0.01 (initial value). Applying Equations (12) to = (14) in PROUTE documentation gives SURO=3D0.00112 inches as the runoff in t= he first time increment. However, the HSPF output gives 0.000000 in. for th= e runoff in the first 24 h. What am I missing? Thanks... David ________________________________________ From: Tom Jobes [tjobes@sjrwmd.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:43 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, (a) Yes, FRAC inside the UZINF routines described in the manual is the same as UZFRAC in the calling routine I referred to before. (b) You are correct that (UZ)FRAC * PDRO is the upper zone inflow UZI, and thus added to UZS. However, (1-FRAC) is applied not to PDRO (potential direct runoff: the amount of available water above the infiltration line), but separately to its two components: PSUR (potential surface runoff: the portion above the interflow line) and PIFWI (potential interflow inflow: between the two lines). This is done in DISPOS. The reduced PSUR is passed to PROUTE to be added to SURS for overland flow routing in subroutine PROUTE, and the reduced PIFWI equals actual IFWI (interflow inflow). Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:24 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Tom, Thanks for the response. On point (1), I have two follow-up questions: (a) according to the documentation, UZINF computes FRAC, is this the same as the UZFRAC that you mention?; (b) I can see where FRAC*PDRO is added to UZS and (1-FRAC)*PDRO is added to SURS, but how do you calculate the contribution to IFWS? Hope this question makes sense to you. Thanks, David _____________________________________ From: Tom Jobes [tjobes@sjrwmd.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:25 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, Sure, I'll take a stab at these... (1) The Functional Description contains this, though perhaps it's not as obvious as it should be. * The diagram for subroutine SURFAC shows the relationship of interflow inflow and infiltration capacity, and the equation for RATIO is given just above it. * The Description for subroutine DISPOS describes (but does not explicitly state) the equation IIBAR=3DIBAR * RATIO and similarly for IIMIN and IIMAX. Also described (only) on this page is the that subroutine DIVISN is called to compute the areas under each of the lines in the SURFAC diagram. * Infiltration INFIL is set to the full area below the IBAR line. * Potential direct runoff PDRO is then simply the total above the first line (if any). This is divided (by DIVISN again) into potential interflow inflow PIFWI, which is the incremental area under the IIBAR line, and potential surface runoff PSUR is the remaining area above both. * UZINF computes the fraction UZFRAC of PIFWI and PSUR that becomes inflow to the upper zone UZI instead. * PIFWI and PSUR are reduced via multiplication by (1.0-UZFRAC) to account for losses to UZI. The former gives you IFWI, which is what you asked, and the latter gives you the new overland flowplane inflow, which is added to SURS and then routed using subroutine PROUTE. (2) The Functional Description for subroutine ETUZON is a little vague, yes. The reduction is simply linear, so that the potential evap from the upper zone UZPET drops from REMPET to zero as UZRAT=3DUZS/UZSN drops from 2 to zero. UZET is then just the lesser of UZPET and UZS. Hope this helps, Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:47 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Hi, The HSPF documentation seems to be missing specific equations on how the following processes are quantified: (1) inflow into interflow storage (given the potential interflow inflow) (2) potential ET demand on upper zone storage when UZS/UZSN < 2 It would be helpful if someone (Tom?) could let me know the equations used in HSPF for these processes. Thanks! David Chin ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. 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OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 23 X-lyris-Id: 167374 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:45:28 -0400 From: "Tom Jobes" Subject: RE: Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, You'll have to send me your detailed calculation offline and we'll go from there. Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:26 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Tom, Thanks for the response...it is now clear. Can you explain to me the following: I am looking at the runoff from a single pervious land segment for the first 1-h time increment of a simulation where LSUR=3D300, = SLSUR=3D0.043805, NSUR=3D0.2, PSUR =3D0.0 (no precipitation in first hour), PEVT=3D0.0 (no = ET in first hour), and SURS=3D0.01 (initial value). Applying Equations (12) to (14) in PROUTE documentation gives SURO=3D0.00112 inches as the runoff = in the first time increment. However, the HSPF output gives 0.000000 in. for the runoff in the first 24 h. What am I missing? Thanks... David ________________________________________ From: Tom Jobes [tjobes@sjrwmd.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:43 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, (a) Yes, FRAC inside the UZINF routines described in the manual is the same as UZFRAC in the calling routine I referred to before. (b) You are correct that (UZ)FRAC * PDRO is the upper zone inflow UZI, and thus added to UZS. However, (1-FRAC) is applied not to PDRO (potential direct runoff: the amount of available water above the infiltration line), but separately to its two components: PSUR (potential surface runoff: the portion above the interflow line) and PIFWI (potential interflow inflow: between the two lines). This is done in DISPOS. The reduced PSUR is passed to PROUTE to be added to SURS for overland flow routing in subroutine PROUTE, and the reduced PIFWI equals actual IFWI (interflow inflow). Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:24 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Tom, Thanks for the response. On point (1), I have two follow-up questions: (a) according to the documentation, UZINF computes FRAC, is this the same as the UZFRAC that you mention?; (b) I can see where FRAC*PDRO is added to UZS and (1-FRAC)*PDRO is added to SURS, but how do you calculate the contribution to IFWS? Hope this question makes sense to you. Thanks, David _____________________________________ From: Tom Jobes [tjobes@sjrwmd.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:25 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation David, Sure, I'll take a stab at these... (1) The Functional Description contains this, though perhaps it's not as obvious as it should be. * The diagram for subroutine SURFAC shows the relationship of interflow inflow and infiltration capacity, and the equation for RATIO is given just above it. * The Description for subroutine DISPOS describes (but does not explicitly state) the equation IIBAR=3DIBAR * RATIO and similarly for IIMIN and IIMAX. Also described (only) on this page is the that subroutine DIVISN is called to compute the areas under each of the lines in the SURFAC diagram. * Infiltration INFIL is set to the full area below the IBAR line. * Potential direct runoff PDRO is then simply the total above the first line (if any). This is divided (by DIVISN again) into potential interflow inflow PIFWI, which is the incremental area under the IIBAR line, and potential surface runoff PSUR is the remaining area above both. * UZINF computes the fraction UZFRAC of PIFWI and PSUR that becomes inflow to the upper zone UZI instead. * PIFWI and PSUR are reduced via multiplication by (1.0-UZFRAC) to account for losses to UZI. The former gives you IFWI, which is what you asked, and the latter gives you the new overland flowplane inflow, which is added to SURS and then routed using subroutine PROUTE. (2) The Functional Description for subroutine ETUZON is a little vague, yes. The reduction is simply linear, so that the potential evap from the upper zone UZPET drops from REMPET to zero as UZRAT=3DUZS/UZSN drops from 2 to zero. UZET is then just the lesser of UZPET and UZS. Hope this helps, Tom Jobes St Johns River Water Management District tjobes@sjrwmd.com W: 386-328-4463 C: 386-937-6341 -----Original Message----- From: Chin, David A. [mailto:dchin@miami.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:47 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Clarification of HSPF Documentation Hi, The HSPF documentation seems to be missing specific equations on how the following processes are quantified: (1) inflow into interflow storage (given the potential interflow inflow) (2) potential ET demand on upper zone storage when UZS/UZSN < 2 It would be helpful if someone (Tom?) could let me know the equations used in HSPF for these processes. Thanks! David Chin ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. 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OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 24 X-lyris-Id: 167411 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:45:56 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: Lakes in BASINS, Dew point temp., WDM Utility --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FD88F8D47shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am new to BASINS 4/ HSPF and have some questions which I couldn't find st= raight answers in the user's manual. 1) Is it possible to model lakes in BASINS/HSPF by first merging a stream/r= iver shapefile with a lakes/ponds shapefile and then delineating the waters= hed using the merged shapefile instead of the NHD river/stream shapefile. H= as anyone tried it? I was trying to merge the shapefiles, but it wasn't wor= king (a new shapefile was not being created). I was using the "merge shapef= ile" icon at the top. 2) In BASINS, is there any tool to calculate dew point temperature is we ha= ve the relative humidity data? If so how do I do it? 3) I have met data from a particular station in the watershed and I want to= use that data only. It's not clear to me whether I will have to create ind= ividual wdm scripts for reading each parameter and then creating the respec= tive files? Should the inp'ut files have only one set of information or can= it have all the parameters? If thats the case, while data-mapping in the s= cript creation wizard, how should the 'Beg-End Col' be specified for 'Repea= ting' and 'Repeats'? I'd really appreciate your help. Thanks, Biswarup. ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FD88F8D47shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am new to BASINS 4/ HSPF and have some= questions which I couldn't find straight answers in the user's manual.

1) Is it possible to model lakes in BASI= NS/HSPF by first merging a stream/river shapefile with a lakes/ponds shapef= ile and then delineating the watershed using the merged shapefile instead o= f the NHD river/stream shapefile. Has anyone tried it? I was trying to merge the shapefiles, but it wasn't worki= ng (a new shapefile was not being created). I was using the "merge sha= pefile" icon at the top.

2) In BASINS, is there any tool to calcu= late dew point temperature is we have the relative humidity data? If so how= do I do it?

3) I have met data from a particular sta= tion in the watershed and I want to use that data only. It's not clear to m= e whether I will have to create individual wdm scripts for reading each par= ameter and then creating the respective files? Should the inp'ut fi= les have only one set of information or can it have all the parameters? If = thats the case, while data-mapping in the script creation wizard, how should the 'Beg-End Col' be specified for 'Rep= eating' and 'Repeats'?

I'd really appreciate your help.

Thank= s,

Biswa= rup.


This electronic message, and= any attachments transmitted with it, may contain privileged and/or confide= ntial information. It is intended to be viewed only by the individual or en= tity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited.
 --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FD88F8D47shelterhydroq_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 25 X-lyris-Id: 167568 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:38:15 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: Calculate MET data --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE7662C5shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am stuck on a few things while creating the MET input information for BAS= INS/HSPF. I do not have hourly evaporation, potential evaporation and cloud= cover data. All I have is hourly precipitation, temperature, windspeed/dir= ection, solar radiation, dewpoint temprature (calculated from relative humi= dity and temperature). Anybody has any idea how to calculate these information from what I have? Thanks in advance for your help, Biswarup. ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE7662C5shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= Hi,
 
I am stuck on a few thing= s while creating the MET input information for BASINS/HSPF. I do not have h= ourly evaporation, potential evaporation and cloud cover data. All I have i= s hourly precipitation, temperature, windspeed/direction, solar radiation, dewpoint temprature (calculated from relative humidity an= d temperature).
 
Anybody has any idea how = to calculate these information from what I have?
 
Thanks in advance for you= r help,
 
Biswarup.
 

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 --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE7662C5shelterhydroq_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 26 X-lyris-Id: 167571 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:50:46 -0400 From: Liz_Scheessele@URSCorp.com Subject: Re: Calculate MET data --0__=0ABBFE83DFF275EE8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE83DFF275EE Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Biswarup, WDMUtil has several routines for calculating missing data series based = on others. I'd check there first. Liz Liz Scheessele Project Engineer URS Corporation 277 Bendix Rd. Suite 500 Virginia Beach, VA 23452 757-499-4224 ext. 1266 = This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you receive this = message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should not ret= ain, distribute, disclose or use any of this information and you should des= troy the e-mail and any attachments or copies. = = = --0__=0ABBFE83DFF275EE8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE83DFF275EE Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Biswarup,
WDMUtil has several routines for calculating missing d= ata series based on others.
I'd check there first.
Liz

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= --0__=0ABBFE83DFF275EE8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE83DFF275EE-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 27 X-lyris-Id: 167572 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:21:03 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: RE: Calculate MET data --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE7662C6shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for responding! I've checked those. I can calculate the PET and pan evaporation using those= tools. There is an option of calculating daily cloud cover from percent sun. I hav= e solar radiation data. Do you know how to get the percent sun that is used= in this model? Is cloud cover a compulsory data set? I mean if we have sol= ar radiation information do we still need cloud cover information? Thanks again, Biswarup (Roop) Guha, P.E. Project Engineer HydroQual, Inc. mail to: bguha@hydroqual.com 1200 MacArthur Boulevard Mahwah, NJ 07430 Phone: 201-529-5151, ext. 7216 Fax: 201-529-5728 ________________________________ From: Liz_Scheessele@URSCorp.com [Liz_Scheessele@URSCorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:50 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] Calculate MET data Biswarup, WDMUtil has several routines for calculating missing data series based on o= thers. I'd check there first. Liz Liz Scheessele Project Engineer URS Corporation 277 Bendix Rd. Suite 500 Virginia Beach, VA 23452 757-499-4224 ext. 1266 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you receive this messa= ge in error or are not the intended recipient, you should not retain, distr= ibute, disclose or use any of this information and you should destroy the e= -mail and any attachments or copies. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE7662C6shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks = for responding!
 
I've checked those. I can= calculate the PET and pan evaporation using those tools. 
 
There is an option of cal= culating daily cloud cover from percent sun. I have solar = radiation data. Do you know how to get the percent sun that is used in this= model? Is cloud cover a compulsory data set? I mean if we h= ave solar radiation information do we still need cloud cover information?
 
Thanks again,
 
Biswarup (Roop)= Guha, P.E.
Project Enginee= r
HydroQual, Inc.<= font size=3D"3">
mail to: bguha@hydroqual.com
1200 MacArthur Boulevard
Mahwah, NJ 07430=
Phone: 201-529-5151, ext. 7216=
Fax: 201-529-5728
From: Liz_Scheessele@URSCorp.com [L= iz_Scheessele@URSCorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:50 PM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] Calculate MET data

Biswarup,
WDMUtil has several routines for calculating missing data = series based on others.
I'd check there first.
Liz

Liz Scheessele
Project Engineer
URS Corporation
277 Bendix Rd. Suite 500
Virginia Beach, VA 23452
757-499-4224 ext. 1266
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Hi Biswarup,
If you have daily data you can use WDMUtil to generate the hourly data. See the user manual.
Good luck
 
G. A. Sillah Kargbo, PhD., P.Eng.
Water Resources Engineering
34 Gardenwood Drive
London, ON Canada N6J 3M6
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Subject: [basinsinfo] Calculate MET data

Hi,
 
I am stuck on a few things while creating the MET input information for BASINS/HSPF. I do not have hourly evaporation, potential evaporation and cloud cover data. All I have is hourly precipitation, temperature, windspeed/direction, solar radiation, dewpoint temprature (calculated from relative humidity and temperature).
 
Anybody has any idea how to calculate these information from what I have?
 
Thanks in advance for your help,
 
Biswarup.
 

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--0-2114030314-1205926408=:6237-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 29 X-lyris-Id: 167651 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:50:51 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: Cloud Cover from Solar script --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE7662D2shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Does anybody has a script for calculating cloud cover from solar radiation?= BASINS has the field under 'COMPUTATION', but it says that there is no int= erface available. Thanks, Biswarup (Roop) Guha, P.E. Project Engineer HydroQual, Inc. mail to: bguha@hydroqual.com 1200 MacArthur Boulevard Mahwah, NJ 07430 Phone: 201-529-5151, ext. 7216 Fax: 201-529-5728 ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE7662D2shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Does anybody has a script= for calculating cloud cover from solar radiation? BASINS has the field und= er 'COMPUTATION', but it says that there is no interface available.<= /div>
 
Thanks,
 
Biswarup (Roop)= Guha, P.E.
Project Enginee= r
HydroQual, Inc.<= font size=3D"3">
mail to: bguha@hydroqual.com
1200 MacArthur Boulevard
Mahwah, NJ 07430=
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Here is the error message that I am getting. "MAPWINDOW GIS has stoppe= d working. A problem has caused the program to wtop working correctly. Wind= ows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available".

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I have > NORTON Antivirus and am not sure if thats causing the problems. I tried > installing MapWindow45RC2.exe as well as MapWinGIS.ocx. > > Here is the error message that I am getting. "MAPWINDOW GIS has stopped > working. A problem has caused the program to wtop working correctly. Windows > will close the program and notify you if a solution is available". > > Anybody facing similar problems? I'd really appreciate any help. > > > > ________________________________ > This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may > contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be > viewed only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software Lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesdani@isu.edu www.hydromap.com ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 35 X-lyris-Id: 168009 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:07:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Alvaro Alfonso Bernal Bernal Subject: Re: BASINS on VISTA --0-37486626-1206770820=:19197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Biswarup welcometo Vista world, the incompatibility software is a common tr= ouble with softwarethat is not from Microsoft, in Windows Vista. Other issu= e is MapWinGIS is based at ESRI's library and ESRI do not supportits softwa= re in Windows Vista yet.=0A=0AA good option is set and run the =93*.exe=94 = file with=0Acompatibility for XP, this is in =93Windows Explorer=94 choose = the file exe and right=0Aclick =93Properties=94 =93Compatibility=94 =93Comp= atibility mode=94 check =93Run this program=0Ain compatibility for=94 and c= hoose =93Windows XP=94 =93Apply=94 and =93Ok=94.=0A=0A=0AI hope you fix you= r trouble=0Awith this; otherwise, the best solution is to return the Window= s XP.=0A =0A=0AAlvaro A. Bernal=0AGraduate Student, Msc. Environmental & Wa= ter Resources Engineering=0AUniversity of Puerto Rico - Mayag=FCez - PR=0A= =0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Biswarup Guha =0ATo: Private list for BASINS users =0ASent= : Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:33:29 AM=0ASubject: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VI= STA=0A=0A P {=0AMARGIN-TOP:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;}=0AI tried several option= s to install the BASINS on my new laptop having VISTA. The installation is = going fine, but then I cannot open the BAISNS. I have NORTON Antivirus and = am not sure if thats causing the problems. I tried installing MapWindow45RC= 2.exe as well as MapWinGIS.ocx. =0A=0AHere is the error message that I am g= etting. "MAPWINDOW GIS has stopped working. A problem has caused the progra= m to wtop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you = if a solution is available".=0A=0AAnybody facing similar problems? 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A good option is set an= d run the =93*.exe=94 file with=0Acompatibility for XP, this is in =93Windo= ws Explorer=94 choose the file exe and right=0Aclick =93Properties=94 =93Co= mpatibility=94 =93Compatibility mode=94 check =93Run this program=0Ain comp= atibility for=94 and choose =93Windows XP=94 =93Apply=94 and =93Ok=94.

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Alvaro A. Bernal
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University of Puerto Rico - Mayag=FCe= z - PR



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No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. = Sweet deal for Yahoo! users and friends. --0-37486626-1206770820=:19197-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 36 X-lyris-Id: 168010 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:19:02 +0200 From: Emma Radahl Subject: General BASINS questions --_9cbdc371-4111-41a5-9e6b-c3c29c0e9af8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, As I have previously stated on this list, I am working on a Swedish = Master's thesis evaluating if BASINS would be a useful tool in Sweden. I am= currently trying to answer a list of "evaluating questions" for this purpo= se, and there are a couple of issues I cannot seem to find a clear answer t= o in the help files, manuals or tutorials, just hints. As a last resort, I'= ll put them up here in case someone with more experience with BASINS than I= have know one or more of them right away. - Is there a way to create shape= files and grids in Map Window, or do these need to have been created in Arc= GIS?- Are the Compute Meteorlogical Timeseries functions in BASINS GIS and = WDMUtil the same thing? (Seems to be a duplicate)- What forms of N and P ca= n HSPF simulate? (I understand that there are 2 ways of simulating, the PQU= AL/IQUAL and the AGCHEM, but what forms of N and P can a user actually get = an output result of?)- Is there a way in HSPF (or GenScn) to produce source= loads to each reach/reservoir from NPS, PS and atmospheric pollution?- Whe= n calibrating HSPF, is there a way to get output on overland flow/interflow= /groundwater flow per PERLND and IMPLND? I found in WinHSPF a way to get "h= ydrologic parameters for calibration", but these only seemed to be given as= total flows per subbasin.- How does HSPF (and PLOAD) handle gaps in the in= put data? Does it interpolate or does it simply refuse to run?- Have I unde= rstood it correctly that HSPF can produce output time series per hour, day,= week, month and year? When producing output with greater interval, is it a= n average value over the month or year HSPF gives?- What time step is prefe= rable in HSPF? When entering meteorologic data, it should be entered with a= n hourly time step. However, the model seems to run on a time step of 1 day= (?)- When calibrating automatically with PEST or HSPEXP, have I understood = it correctly that these calibration help programs cannot calibrate differen= t values per PERLND/IMPLND, they simply calibrate the parameters?- Is the e= vaporation time series ever used? When I produced such a time series in WDM= Util and read the *.wdm into HSPF, it never listed the evaporation time ser= ies.Finally- When using WinHSPF and turning on modules with the control car= ds, should the required tables under Input Data Manager then turn bold? I a= sk this because when I turned on the snow module in Control Cards, the tabl= es for ATEMP and for several other snow parameters were not bold. Is this a= bug? I know these are plenty of questions, but I feel as if I have reached= a wall in reading the literature concering these models. Many, many thanks= in advance. Sincerely,Emma Radahl, Sweden _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=3Den-us&sourc= e=3Dwlmailtagline= --_9cbdc371-4111-41a5-9e6b-c3c29c0e9af8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,
 
As I have previously stated on this list, I am working = on a Swedish Master's thesis evaluating if BASINS would be a useful tool in= Sweden. I am currently trying to answer a list of "evaluating questions" f= or this purpose, and there are a couple of issues I cannot seem to find a c= lear answer to in the help files, manuals or tutorials, just hints. As a la= st resort, I'll put them up here in case someone with more experience with = BASINS than I have know one or more of them right away.
 
- Is t= here a way to create shapefiles and grids in Map Window, or do these need t= o have been created in ArcGIS?
- Are the Compute Meteorlogical Timeserie= s functions in BASINS GIS and WDMUtil the same thing? (Seems to be a duplic= ate)
- What forms of N and P can HSPF simulate? (I understand that there= are 2 ways of simulating, the PQUAL/IQUAL and the AGCHEM, but what forms o= f N and P can a user actually get an output result of?)
- Is there a way= in HSPF (or GenScn) to produce source loads to each reach/reservoir from N= PS, PS and atmospheric pollution?
- When calibrating HSPF, is there a wa= y to get output on overland flow/interflow/groundwater flow per PERLND and = IMPLND? I found in WinHSPF a way to get "hydrologic parameters for calibrat= ion", but these only seemed to be given as total flows per subbasin.
- H= ow does HSPF (and PLOAD) handle gaps in the input data? Does it interpolate= or does it simply refuse to run?
- Have I understood it correctly that = HSPF can produce output time series per hour, day, week, month and year? Wh= en producing output with greater interval, is it an average value over the = month or year HSPF gives?
- What time step is preferable in HSPF? When e= ntering meteorologic data, it should be entered with an hourly time step. H= owever, the model seems to run on a time step of 1 day(?)
- When calibra= ting automatically with PEST or HSPEXP, have I understood it correctly that= these calibration help programs cannot calibrate different values per PERL= ND/IMPLND, they simply calibrate the parameters?
- Is the evaporation ti= me series ever used? When I produced such a time series in WDMUtil and read= the *.wdm into HSPF, it never listed the evaporation time series.
Final= ly
- When using WinHSPF and turning on modules with the control cards, s= hould the required tables under Input Data Manager then turn bold? I ask th= is because when I turned on the snow module in Control Cards, the tables fo= r ATEMP and for several other snow parameters were not bold. Is this a bug?=
 
I know these are plenty of questions, but I feel as if I have= reached a wall in reading the literature concering these models.
 =
Many, many thanks in advance.
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl, Sweden
=
Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 Get it now! = --_9cbdc371-4111-41a5-9e6b-c3c29c0e9af8_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 37 X-lyris-Id: 168015 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:46:42 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: RE: BASINS on VISTA --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE774361shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That really unfortunate for me. I bought a new laptop only to get things fa= ster and it is not working out. I tried the compatibility mode and it doesn= 't work either. ________________________________ From: Alvaro Alfonso Bernal Bernal [mailto:bernal2a2@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:07 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA Biswarup welcome to Vista world, the incompatibility software is a common t= rouble with software that is not from Microsoft, in Windows Vista. Other is= sue is MapWinGIS is based at ESRI's library and ESRI do not support its sof= tware in Windows Vista yet. A good option is set and run the "*.exe" file with compatibility for XP, th= is is in "Windows Explorer" choose the file exe and right click "Properties= " "Compatibility" "Compatibility mode" check "Run this program in compatibi= lity for" and choose "Windows XP" "Apply" and "Ok". I hope you fix your trouble with this; otherwise, the best solution is to r= eturn the Windows XP. Alvaro A. Bernal Graduate Student, Msc. Environmental & Water Resources Engineering University of Puerto Rico - Mayag=FCez - PR ----- Original Message ---- From: Biswarup Guha To: Private list for BASINS users Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:33:29 AM Subject: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA I tried several options to install the BASINS on my new laptop having VISTA= . The installation is going fine, but then I cannot open the BAISNS. I have= NORTON Antivirus and am not sure if thats causing the problems. I tried in= stalling MapWindow45RC2.exe as well as MapWinGIS.ocx. Here is the error message that I am getting. "MAPWINDOW GIS has stopped wor= king. A problem has caused the program to wtop working correctly. Windows w= ill close the program and notify you if a solution is available". Anybody facing similar problems? I'd really appreciate any help. This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ________________________________ No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet d= eal for Yahoo! users and friends. -----------------------------------------= - You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE774361shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That really unfortunate for me. I= bought a new laptop only to get things faster and it is not working out. I= tried the compatibility mode and it doesn't work either.
 

From: Alvaro Alfonso Bernal Bernal = [mailto:bernal2a2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:07 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA

Bis= warup welcome to Vista world, the incompatibility software is a common trou= ble with software that is not from Microsoft, in Windows Vista. Other issue= is MapWinGIS is based at ESRI's library and ESRI do = not support its software in Windows Vista yet.


A good option is set and run the “*.exe”= file with compatibility for XP, this is in “Windows Explorer” = choose the file exe and right click “Properties” “Compati= bility” “Compatibility mode” check “Run this progra= m in compatibility for” and choose “Windows XP” “Apply” and “Ok”.<= /p>


I hope you fix your trouble with this; otherwise, th= e best solution is to return the Windows XP.


 

Alvaro A. Bernal
Graduate Student= , Msc. Environmental & Water Resources Engineering
University of Puerto Rico - Mayag=FCez - PR


----- Original Message ----
From: Biswarup Guha <bguha@hydroqual.com>
To: Private list for BASINS users <basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:33:29 AM
Subject: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA

I tried= several options to install the BASINS on my new laptop having VISTA. The i= nstallation is going fine, but then I cannot open the BAISNS. I have NORTON= Antivirus and am not sure if thats causing the problems. I tried installing MapWindow45RC2.exe as well as MapWinGIS.o= cx.

Here is the error message that I am getting. "MAPWINDOW GIS has stoppe= d working. A problem has caused the program to wtop working correctly. Wind= ows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available".

Anybody facing similar problems? I'd really appreciate any help.
 
 
This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may contain privileged and/or confide= ntial information. It is intended to be viewed only by the individual or en= tity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, distribution, = copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited.
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 --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE774361shelterhydroq_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 38 X-lyris-Id: 168031 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:44:48 -0400 From: "Paul Duda" Subject: RE: General BASINS questions This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C89324.9F65E520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Emma, I'll answer the ones that seem closest to my expertise -- maybe someone else can volunteer to answer some of the other questions. - There are very nice tools for creating and editing shapefiles in MapWindow (see the 'Shapefile Editor' tool). Creating grids is not something I normally do, although I do change grid formats in MapWindow and do things like merge them and resample them. - The Compute Met Timeseries in the BASINS GIS and WDMUtil are essentially the same thing. Functionality from older COM-based BASINS components like WDMUtil are being migrated to the new .Net environment, and while in this transition phase some functions are available in multiple places. - As a general answer to a number of your questions, it would be useful to become familiar with the Time Series Catalog section of the HSPF manual. This section lists every time series available for output from HSPF, by module. So I can look, for example, at the time series catalog for PERLND:PWATER and see a list of a the time series that a user might choose to output from the PWATER section. - When set up through BASINS, HSPF runs at a time interval of 1 hour. By default the output time series written to WDM from HSPF are in the time interval of 1 day, but the user can specify hour if desired. The user may also choose how to aggregate the data from hourly to daily. - The Input Data Manager of WinHSPF displays tables that exist in the current UCI file in bold. Turning on a table through the control cards prompts the user to add any tables that become required as a result of that change. If all values in a table have default values, it may not be added automatically since that table would not be strictly speaking required. I hope this gets you started. Paul Duda AQUA TERRA Consultants -----Original Message----- From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:19 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] General BASINS questions Hello, As I have previously stated on this list, I am working on a Swedish Master's thesis evaluating if BASINS would be a useful tool in Sweden. I am currently trying to answer a list of "evaluating questions" for this purpose, and there are a couple of issues I cannot seem to find a clear answer to in the help files, manuals or tutorials, just hints. As a last resort, I'll put them up here in case someone with more experience with BASINS than I have know one or more of them right away. - Is there a way to create shapefiles and grids in Map Window, or do these need to have been created in ArcGIS? - Are the Compute Meteorlogical Timeseries functions in BASINS GIS and WDMUtil the same thing? (Seems to be a duplicate) - What forms of N and P can HSPF simulate? (I understand that there are 2 ways of simulating, the PQUAL/IQUAL and the AGCHEM, but what forms of N and P can a user actually get an output result of?) - Is there a way in HSPF (or GenScn) to produce source loads to each reach/reservoir from NPS, PS and atmospheric pollution? - When calibrating HSPF, is there a way to get output on overland flow/interflow/groundwater flow per PERLND and IMPLND? I found in WinHSPF a way to get "hydrologic parameters for calibration", but these only seemed to be given as total flows per subbasin. - How does HSPF (and PLOAD) handle gaps in the input data? Does it interpolate or does it simply refuse to run? - Have I understood it correctly that HSPF can produce output time series per hour, day, week, month and year? When producing output with greater interval, is it an average value over the month or year HSPF gives? - What time step is preferable in HSPF? When entering meteorologic data, it should be entered with an hourly time step. However, the model seems to run on a time step of 1 day(?) - When calibrating automatically with PEST or HSPEXP, have I understood it correctly that these calibration help programs cannot calibrate different values per PERLND/IMPLND, they simply calibrate the parameters? - Is the evaporation time series ever used? When I produced such a time series in WDMUtil and read the *.wdm into HSPF, it never listed the evaporation time series. Finally - When using WinHSPF and turning on modules with the control cards, should the required tables under Input Data Manager then turn bold? I ask this because when I turned on the snow module in Control Cards, the tables for ATEMP and for several other snow parameters were not bold. Is this a bug? I know these are plenty of questions, but I feel as if I have reached a wall in reading the literature concering these models. Many, many thanks in advance. Sincerely, Emma Radahl, Sweden ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. 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Hi=20 Emma,
 
I'll answer=20 the ones that seem closest to my expertise -- maybe someone else can = volunteer=20 to answer some of the other questions.
 
- There are=20 very nice tools for creating and editing shapefiles in MapWindow (see = the=20 'Shapefile Editor' tool).  Creating grids is not something I = normally do,=20 although I do change grid formats in MapWindow and do things like merge = them and=20 resample them. 
 
- The Compute=20 Met Timeseries in the BASINS GIS and WDMUtil are essentially the same=20 thing.  Functionality from older COM-based BASINS components like = WDMUtil=20 are being migrated to the new .Net environment, and while in this = transition=20 phase some functions are available in multiple = places.
 
- As a=20 general answer to a number of your questions, it would be useful to = become=20 familiar with the Time Series Catalog section of the HSPF manual.  = This=20 section lists every time series available for output from HSPF, by = module. =20 So I can look, for example, at the time series catalog for PERLND:PWATER = and see=20 a list of a the time series that a user might choose to output from the = PWATER=20 section.
 
- When set up=20 through BASINS, HSPF runs at a time interval of 1 hour.  By = default=20 the output time series written to WDM from HSPF are in the time interval = of 1=20 day, but the user can specify hour if desired.  The user may also = choose=20 how to aggregate the data from hourly to daily.
 
- The Input=20 Data Manager of WinHSPF displays tables that exist in the current UCI = file in=20 bold.  Turning on a table through the control cards prompts the = user to add=20 any tables that become required as a result of that change.  If all = values=20 in a table have default values, it may not be added automatically since = that=20 table would not be strictly speaking required.
 
I hope this=20 gets you started. 
 
Paul=20 Duda
AQUA TERRA=20 Consultants
 
 
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Emma Radahl=20 [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 = 5:19=20 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: = [basinsinfo]=20 General BASINS questions

Hello,
 
As I have previously stated on this = list, I am=20 working on a Swedish Master's thesis evaluating if BASINS would be a = useful=20 tool in Sweden. I am currently trying to answer a list of "evaluating=20 questions" for this purpose, and there are a couple of issues I cannot = seem to=20 find a clear answer to in the help files, manuals or tutorials, just = hints. As=20 a last resort, I'll put them up here in case someone with more = experience with=20 BASINS than I have know one or more of them right away.
 
- = Is=20 there a way to create shapefiles and grids in Map Window, or do these = need to=20 have been created in ArcGIS?
- Are the Compute Meteorlogical = Timeseries=20 functions in BASINS GIS and WDMUtil the same thing? (Seems to be a=20 duplicate)
- What forms of N and P can HSPF simulate? (I understand = that=20 there are 2 ways of simulating, the PQUAL/IQUAL and the AGCHEM, but = what forms=20 of N and P can a user actually get an output result of?)
- Is there = a way=20 in HSPF (or GenScn) to produce source loads to each reach/reservoir = from NPS,=20 PS and atmospheric pollution?
- When calibrating HSPF, is there a = way to=20 get output on overland flow/interflow/groundwater flow per PERLND and = IMPLND?=20 I found in WinHSPF a way to get "hydrologic parameters for = calibration", but=20 these only seemed to be given as total flows per subbasin.
- How = does HSPF=20 (and PLOAD) handle gaps in the input data? Does it interpolate or does = it=20 simply refuse to run?
- Have I understood it correctly that HSPF = can=20 produce output time series per hour, day, week, month and year? When = producing=20 output with greater interval, is it an average value over the month or = year=20 HSPF gives?
- What time step is preferable in HSPF? When entering=20 meteorologic data, it should be entered with an hourly time step. = However, the=20 model seems to run on a time step of 1 day(?)
- When calibrating=20 automatically with PEST or HSPEXP, have I understood it correctly that = these=20 calibration help programs cannot calibrate different values per = PERLND/IMPLND,=20 they simply calibrate the parameters?
- Is the evaporation time = series ever=20 used? When I produced such a time series in WDMUtil and read the *.wdm = into=20 HSPF, it never listed the evaporation time series.
Finally
- = When using=20 WinHSPF and turning on modules with the control cards, should the = required=20 tables under Input Data Manager then turn bold? I ask this because = when I=20 turned on the snow module in Control Cards, the tables for ATEMP and = for=20 several other snow parameters were not bold. Is this a = bug?
 
I=20 know these are plenty of questions, but I feel as if I have reached a = wall in=20 reading the literature concering these models.
 
Many, many = thanks=20 in advance.
Sincerely,
Emma Radahl, Sweden

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------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C89324.9F65E520-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 39 X-lyris-Id: 168032 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:04:53 -0400 From: Biswarup Guha Subject: RE: General BASINS questions --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE774366shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question regarding the COMPUTATIONS. In the BASINS toolbar, there = is an option of computing CLOUD COVER from solar radiation, but when I try = to use it says that the interface is not available and I should use a scrip= t. Does anybody has a script for this type of conversion? I thin kI will ne= ed cloud cover later on for the HSPF. I may have asked this before too, but= didn't get any answer. Also, in HSPF, do I have to include all the flow data in the met.wdm in ord= er to calibrate? Is there any option to write out in ASCII format so that I= can compare the flows so that I can use other tools to compare the data to= model output? Thanks in advance, Biswarup. ________________________________ This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may conta= in privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized= review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication is = strictly prohibited. --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE774366shelterhydroq_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a question regarding the COMPUTATIONS= . In the BASINS toolbar, there is an option of computing CLOUD COVER f= rom solar radiation, but when I try to use it says that the interface is not available and I should use a script. Does a= nybody has a script for this type of conversion? I thin kI will need cloud = cover later on for the HSPF. I may have asked this before too, but didn't get any answer.
 
Also, in HSPF, do I have to include all the = flow data in the met.wdm in order to calibrate? Is there any option to writ= e out in ASCII format so that I can compare the flows so that I can use other tools to compare the data to model outpu= t?
 
Thanks in advance,
Biswarup.

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 --_000_0D45E17D56F3E445825717FF956BDF740FDE774366shelterhydroq_-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 40 X-lyris-Id: 168035 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:29:28 -0400 From: "Bijhouwer, Paul LRB" Subject: RE: BASINS on VISTA This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C89354.C5A63122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is some detailed info regarding how to successfully install = MapWindow under Vista at the following location: http://www.mapwindow.org/phorum/read.php?3,6648,6752 =20 Similarly, although ArcView 3.X is not supported by ESRI under Vista, I = found an account of how to install it at: http://www.jennessent.com/arcview/arcview_extensions.htm =20 Note that I have not actually tried to do either of these things, but I = was curious enough to do a little research since I am currently the = considering purchase of a Vista based laptop. =20 Paul Bijhouwer, P.E.=20 ________________________________ From: Biswarup Guha [mailto:bguha@hydroqual.com]=20 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:47 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA That really unfortunate for me. I bought a new laptop only to get things faster and it is not working out. I tried the compatibility mode and it doesn't work either. =20 ________________________________ From: Alvaro Alfonso Bernal Bernal [mailto:bernal2a2@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:07 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA Biswarup welcome to Vista world, the incompatibility software is a = common trouble with software that is not from Microsoft, in Windows Vista. = Other issue is MapWinGIS is based at ESRI's library and ESRI do not support = its software in Windows Vista yet.=20 A good option is set and run the "*.exe" file with compatibility for XP, = this is in "Windows Explorer" choose the file exe and right click = "Properties" "Compatibility" "Compatibility mode" check "Run this program in = compatibility for" and choose "Windows XP" "Apply" and "Ok". I hope you fix your trouble with this; otherwise, the best solution is = to return the Windows XP. =20 Alvaro A. Bernal Graduate Student, Msc. Environmental & Water Resources Engineering University of Puerto Rico - Mayag=FCez - PR ----- Original Message ---- From: Biswarup Guha To: Private list for BASINS users Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:33:29 AM Subject: [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA I tried several options to install the BASINS on my new laptop having = VISTA. The installation is going fine, but then I cannot open the BAISNS. I = have NORTON Antivirus and am not sure if thats causing the problems. I tried installing MapWindow45RC2.exe as well as MapWinGIS.ocx.=20 Here is the error message that I am getting. "MAPWINDOW GIS has stopped working. A problem has caused the program to wtop working correctly. = Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available".=20 Anybody facing similar problems? I'd really appreciate any help. =20 =20 This electronic message, and any attachments transmitted with it, may = contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended to be viewed = only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this communication = is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to = lyris@lists.epa.gov=20 OR:=20 Use the listserver's web interface at = https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription.=20 OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at = basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------=20 ________________________________ No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. 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There is some detailed info regarding how to=20 successfully install MapWindow under Vista at the following=20 location:
http://www.= mapwindow.org/phorum/read.php?3,6648,6752
 
Similarly, although ArcView 3.X is not = supported by=20 ESRI under Vista, I found an account of how to install it=20 at:
http://= www.jennessent.com/arcview/arcview_extensions.htm
=
 
Note=20 that I have not actually tried to do either of these things, but I was = curious=20 enough to do a little research since I am currently the considering = purchase of=20 a Vista based laptop. 

Paul Bijhouwer, P.E.


From: Biswarup Guha = [mailto:bguha@hydroqual.com]=20
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:47 AM
To: Private = list for=20 BASINS users
Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] BASINS on=20 VISTA

That really unfortunate for me. I bought a = new laptop=20 only to get things faster and it is not working out. I tried the = compatibility=20 mode and it doesn't work either.
 

From: Alvaro Alfonso Bernal Bernal=20 [mailto:bernal2a2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 = 1:07=20 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: Re:=20 [basinsinfo] BASINS on VISTA

Biswarup=20 welcome to Vista world, the incompatibility software is a common trouble = with=20 software that is not from Microsoft, in Windows Vista. Other issue is = MapWinGIS=20 is based at ESRI's library and ESRI = do not=20 support its software in Windows Vista yet.=20


A good option is set and run the =93*.exe=94 file = with=20 compatibility for XP, this is in =93Windows Explorer=94 choose the file = exe and=20 right click =93Properties=94 =93Compatibility=94 =93Compatibility = mode=94 check =93Run this=20 program in compatibility for=94 and choose =93Windows XP=94 =93Apply=94 = and =93Ok=94.


I hope you fix your trouble with this; otherwise, = the best=20 solution is to return the Windows XP.


 

Alvaro A. Bernal
Graduate Student, = Msc.=20 Environmental & Water Resources Engineering
University of Puerto = Rico -=20 Mayag=FCez - PR



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Subject: [basinsinfo] BASINS on=20 VISTA

I tried = several options to=20 install the BASINS on my new laptop having VISTA. The installation is = going=20 fine, but then I cannot open the BAISNS. I have NORTON Antivirus and am = not sure=20 if thats causing the problems. I tried installing MapWindow45RC2.exe as = well as=20 MapWinGIS.ocx.

Here is the error message that I am getting. = "MAPWINDOW=20 GIS has stopped working. A problem has caused the program to wtop = working=20 correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution = is=20 available".

Anybody facing similar problems? I'd really = appreciate any=20 help.
 
 

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------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C89354.C5A63122-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 41 X-lyris-Id: 168039 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:30:04 -0400 From: "Paul Duda" Subject: BASINS/HSPF Training Workshop, July 14-18, 2008 BASINS/HSPF TRAINING WORKSHOP JULY 14-18, 2008 SANTA CLARA, CA The U.S. EPA?s Hydrological Simulation Program-FORTRAN (HSPF) is the primary watershed model included in the EPA BASINS modeling system. HSPF is a comprehensive watershed model of hydrology and water quality, simulating land surface and subsurface hydrologic and water quality processes, linked and closely integrated with corresponding stream and reservoir processes. BASINS/HSPF has been a major tool for watershed and TMDL assessments across the US. This EPA-sponsored workshop will be led by expert instructors from AQUA TERRA Consultants. The workshop will consist of approximately 50 percent lecture and 50 percent computer exercises, and will focus on the application of HSPF through EPA?s BASINS system. Course Dates and Duration This 4-1/2 day workshop will be held July 14-18, 2008. Location The course will be held at the following location in Santa Clara, CA: Ready Serve/Techmart 5201 Great America Parkway Santa Clara, CA 95054 www.readyserve.com See web site for location and directions. Course Schedule The 4-1/2 day course is scheduled as follows: Monday, 1:00pm - 5:00 pm (On-site Check In/Registration 12:00 - 1:00 pm) Tuesday - Thursday, 8:30 am - 5:00 pm Friday, 8:30 am - 4:00 pm A sample schedule can be found online: http://www.aquaterra.com/baswkshop.html Registration The workshop is free, but space is limited and prior registration is required. To request space in the workshop, please email Doris Jean Quiring (djquiring@aquaterra.com) at AQUA TERRA Consultants (phone: 650-962-1864). To complete the registration process you MUST submit the following: - a brief statement explaining your interest in BASINS/HSPF - name, title, organization and address - contact information: phone, fax, email Registration requests must be received by 30 May 2008. Final registrants will be confirmed and notified of their acceptance by 6 June 2008, at the latest and provided travel and hotel information at that time. Prerequisites Workshop participants should have a basic understanding of watershed hydrology and water quality processes. Accommodations and Travel Local hotel and travel information will be provided to registrants in June when confirmed. ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 42 X-lyris-Id: 168050 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:38:09 -0400 (EDT) From: plapal1@umbc.edu Subject: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN# Hi, I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco area watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am an undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have the .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sections of the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file. When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm file referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as opposed to the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containing data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of code to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking that it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the UN# unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the correct value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to comment out the WDM line in the FILES block. Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the code? Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompanying text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil gave me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' a WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first? Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input. - Peter --- END OF MESSAGES ----------------------------------------------------------