000 FXUS10 KWNH 081829 PMDHMD MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 128 PM EST SUN FEB 08 2009 VALID FEB 08/1200 UTC THRU FEB 12/0000 UTC ...SEE NOUS42 KWNO ADMNFD FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR INGEST... 12Z/08 FINAL MODEL PREFERENCES...INCLUDING THE ECMWF ANY INITIALIZATION ERRORS WITH THE NAM AND GFS DO NOT APPEAR TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THEIR SOLUTIONS. ...CYCLONE LIFTING THROUGH THE PLAINS DAY 1 INTO DAY 2... THE NAM IS SLOWER THAN BOTH THE GFS AND 00Z/08 ECMWF WITH THE NORTHWARD TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW DAY 1. BY THE BEGINNING OF DAY 3...THE NAM AND GFS ARE SEVERAL MILLIBARS DEEPER THAN THE OLD ECMWF WITH THE CENTER NORTHWEST OF LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH THE GFS THE FARTHEST WEST OF THE THREE MODELS. THE GEM GLOBAL AND UKMET ARE ALSO FARTHER WEST THAN THE NAM AND OLD ECMWF BY 00Z/11 WEDNESDAY...AND OF A COMPARABLE DEPTH TO THE NAM AND GFS. THE 12Z/08 ECMWF CLUSTERS WELL WITH THE GEM GLOBAL AND UKMET WITH THE LOW TRACK AND INTENSITY THROUGH 00Z/10 TUESDAY...SO WILL RELY ON THEIR SOLID CONSENSUS THROUGH THAT TIME. AFTER THAT...THE ECMWF MAINTAINS A MORE EASTWARD TRACK OVER THE ARROWHEAD OF MINNESOTA THAN ALL THE CURRENT MODELS BUT THE NAM...AND DOES NOT INDICATE THE DEPTH OF ANY OF THE 12Z/08 GUIDANCE BY 00Z/11 WEDNESDAY. THE ECMWFS CONTINUITY ALONE MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO DISMISS...AND WITH ITS STRONG VERIFICATION THIS COLD SEASON FOR MUCH OF THE NATION...WILL LEAN TOWARD ITS HANDLING OF THE SYSTEM THROUGH THE END OF DAY 2. ...SECOND WAVE DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AT THE BEGINNING OF DAY 3... THE GFS IS SLOWER THAN THE NAM AND ECMWF TO SWING THE LOW THROUGH THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS EARLY DAY 3...AND UNLIKE THOSE MODELS...SHEARS THE SYSTEM INTO TWO CENTERS AS IT CROSSES THE CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. BY THE END OF DAY 3...THE GFS THEN OUTPACES THE NAM AND ECMWF WITH THE PRIMARY CENTER OVER THE GREAT LAKES. THE UKMET IS CLOSEST TO THE ECMWF THROUGH 12Z/11 WEDNESDAY...AFTER WHICH IT PULLS TO THE LEFT. THE GEM GLOBAL IS CLOSER TO THE CURRENT GFS...BUT FARTHER WEST AND DEEPER BY THE END OF DAY 3. WILL RELY ON THE CURRENT ECMWF FOR THIS SYSTEM AS WELL...CONSIDERING ITS STRONG CONTINUITY AND SUPPORT FROM THE UKMET FOR MOST OF THE PERIOD. ...CYCLONE OFF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST LATE DAY 2 INTO DAY 3... THE NAM AND GEM GLOBAL ARE CONSIDERABLY SHALLOWER THAN THE GFS AND ECMWF WITH THIS LOW...WITH THE UKMET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN. THE ECMWF IS SOUTH OF ALL THESE MODELS WITH THE CENTER AT THE BEGINNING OF DAY 3. FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS...THE ECMWF HAS CONSISTENTLY DEPICTED A DEEP SYSTEM IN THIS REGION...EVEN WHEN THE OTHER MODELS BUILT HIGH PRESSURE INTO THE WEST COAST. ITS STRONG CONTINUITY MAKES IT PREFERABLE OVER THE LOT OF THE 12Z/08 GUIDANCE. ...MODEL TREND GRAPHICS AT WWW.HPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.SHTML... ...500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.HPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML CISCO $$