AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
200 AM PDT FRI JUN 13 2008
.SYNOPSIS...
HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT WILL INCREASE THROUGH SATURDAY WITH A SLIGHT
DECREASE SUNDAY...THEN LITTLE CHANGE UNTIL WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY
WHEN HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT WILL DECREASE A BIT MORE. A TROUGH AND
UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL SLOWLY MOVE SOUTH JUST OFF THE
COAST OF CANADA. IT WILL BE JUST NORTHWEST OF VANCOUVER ISLAND BY
THURSDAY. THE MARINE LAYER WILL DECREASE THROUGH SATURDAY. IT WILL
INCREASE ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. SOME DENSE FOG MAY DEVELOP
MAINLY NEAR THE COAST TONIGHT AND SATURDAY MORNING. NO SIGNIFICANT
WINDS EXCEPT LOCALLY BREEZY IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS IN THE
AFTERNOONS AT TIMES.
&&
.DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE...
SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTIES...
MARINE LAYER HAVING AN EASIER TIME MOVING INTO ORANGE COUNTY THAN
SAN DIEGO COUNTY EARLY THIS MORNING. EXPECT LOW CLOUDS TO COVER MOST
OF THE COASTAL AREAS AND MOVE INTO THE WEST PART OF THE INLAND
VALLEYS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY BY SUNRISE. SOME EARLY MORNING FOG MAY
DEVELOP IN THE WEST PART OF THE INLAND EMPIRE. HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT
BUILDS IN FROM THE SOUTHEAST THROUGH SATURDAY. THE HIGH DROPS SOUTH
SLIGHTLY SUNDAY BUT THERE WILL BE LITTLE CHANGE THROUGH TUESDAY. THE
MARINE LAYER MAY BECOME NON-EXISTENT BY SUNDAY MORNING BUT SOME LOW
CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED LATE NIGHT AND EARLY MORNING NEAR THE COAST. AN
UPPER LEVEL LOW IS FORECAST TO DROP SLOWLY SOUTH ALONG THE CANADIAN
COAST. BY WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY A WEAK TROUGH IS FORECAST TO
DECREASE HIGH PRESSURE OVER SOCAL A BIT MORE. THE MARINE LAYER WILL
INCREASE A LITTLE BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK WITH A BIT MORE
EXTENSIVE NIGHT AND MORNING LOW CLOUDS. PRESSURE GRADIENTS INCREASE
AT TIMES DURING THE AFTERNOONS FOR BREEZY WINDS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND
DESERTS OCCASIONALLY. MID AND HIGH CLOUDS ARE FORECAST TO MOVE OVER
SOCAL SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. MODELS HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT
TO DO WITH THE UPPER LEVEL LOWS AND TROUGHS MOSTLY ROTATING THROUGH
CANADA OR DROPPING SOUTH OFF THE COAST. ECMWF MOSTLY KEEPS HIGH
PRESSURE OVER THE AREA ALTHOUGH IT AGREES WITH THE GFS WITH A TROUGH
DECREASING HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY NEXT WEEK.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE MOSTLY IN CONTROL FOR THE
NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN IF THE MARINE LAYER WILL
DRY UP OFF SOCAL. EXPECT SOME STRATUS TO REMAIN LATE NIGHT AND EARLY
MORNING NEAR THE COAST.
&&
.AVIATION...
130800Z...MDCRS SOUNDINGS INDICATE THE MARINE LAYER DEPTH WAS AROUND
1800 FEET THIS MORNING. SOME LOWERING IS EXPECTED TODAY TO AROUND
1500 FEET BY THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. COASTAL STRATUS WITH BASES
AROUND 1500 FEET MSL IS SOMEWHAT DISRUPTED ALONG THE COAST AT THIS
TIME BUT IS SHOWING SIGNS OF BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED...ESPECIALLY
OFF ORANGE COUNTY AND NORTHERN SAN DIEGO COUNTY. EXPECT THE STRATUS
TO FILL IN ALONG THE COAST AND SPREAD INLAND BETWEEN NOW AND SUNRISE
WITH SOME STRATUS REACHING NEAR KONT BY SUNRISE. STRATUS SHOULD
BEGIN TO BURN OFF OVER THE INLAND AREAS BY 15Z AND CLEAR TO THE
COAST BETWEEN 16Z AND 17Z. EXPECT STRATUS TO RETURN TO THE COASTLINE
BY SUNRISE AND SPREAD INLAND DURING THE LATE EVENING.
ABOVE THE MARINE LAYER INCLUDING THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS...A
MOSTLY CLEAR SKY WITH UNRESTRICTED VISIBILITIES WILL CONTINUE
THROUGH SATURDAY.
FOR DENSITY ALTITUDE PLANNING...MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE AT KPSP AND KTRM
IS EXPECTED TO BE 40 TO 42 DEG C TODAY AND SATURDAY. KONT SHOULD
REACH 30 DEG C TODAY AND 33 DEG ON SATURDAY. TEMPERATURES AT THE
COASTAL AIRPORTS SUCH AS KSNA AND KSAN IS NOT EXPECTED TO EXCEED 25C
TODAY AND SATURDAY.
&&
.SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CA...NONE.
PZ...NONE.
&&
$$
PUBLIC...WHITLOW
AVIATION/MARINE...HORTON
NWS ON THE WEB AT WEATHER.GOV/SANDIEGO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TAUNTON MA
930 PM EDT SAT JUN 14 2008
.SYNOPSIS...
A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE INTO THE REGION LATE TONIGHT AND SUN AS LOW
PRESSURE DEVELOPS OFF THE COAST. THE LOW WILL MOVE OFFSHORE SUN
NIGHT...THEN ANOTHER COLD FRONT AND AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE
INTO THE REGION MON NIGHT INTO TUE. A COOL AND UNSETTLED WEATHER
PATTERN WILL FOLLOW FOR THE REST OF THE WORK WEEK.
&&
.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM SUNDAY MORNING/...
CONVECTION ACROSS WESTERN MA SOUTHWARD INTO CT CONTINUES TO WEAKEN
WITH LOSS OF DAYTIME HEATING. PER MESO ANALYSIS GREATEST LOW LEVEL
INSTABILITY REMAINS WELL TO THE SW ACROSS LI/NYC AND NJ. EXPECT
CONVECTION TO CONTINUE WEAKENING AS MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES /PER
AIRCRAFT SOUNDINGS/ OVER SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND ARE LESS THAN MOIST
ADIABATIC AND SHEAR IS VERY WEAK. SO WE WILL LIMIT AREAL COVERAGE OF
THUNDER IN TONIGHT/S FORECAST.
HOWEVER...THERE SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT LIFT IN THE FORM OF MID LEVEL
CONVERGENCE ON THE NOSE OF A WEAK JET IMPULSE MOVING ACROSS THE AREA TO
SUPPORT NUMEROUS SHOWERS. THESE SHOWERS WILL ALSO LIKELY WEAKEN AS
THEY OUT RUN BEST INSTABILITY FARTHER TO THE WEST. HOWEVER...MEASURABLE
RAIN SHOULD MAKE IT INTO RI AND EASTERN MA...ESPECIALLY INTO THE I495
CORRIDOR. FARTHER EAST ALONG THE EASTERN MA COAST INCLUDING CAPE
COD...SHOWER ACTIVITY MAY FIZZLE BEFORE REACHING THESE AREAS.
THIS IS CAPTURED FAIRLY WELL BY PREVIOUS FORECAST...SO MAIN CHANGE TO
TONIGHT/S FORECAST WILL BE TO LIMIT/RESTRICT MENTION OF TSTMS.
OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL MAINLY BE IN THE UPPER 50S TO MID 60S. USED A
BLEND OF MAVMOS GUIDANCE AND METNAM.
&&
.SHORT TERM /6 AM SUNDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM SUNDAY/...
SUNDAY...
WITH BLOCKING PATTERN CONTINUING OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC...APPEARS
THAT THE FRONT WILL CREEP EVER SO SLOWLY ACROSS THE REGION DURING
FATHERS DAY. THIS WILL KEEP UNSETTLED CONDITIONS THROUGH MOST OF THE
DAY...ESPECIALLY OVER CENTRAL AND EASTERN AREAS. MODELS ALSO TRYING
TO SPIN UP WEAK LOW PRESSURE AND MOVING IT EITHER ACROSS THE SOUTH
COAST OR S OF NEW ENGLAND DURING THE DAY AS WELL...WHICH WILL ALSO
SLOW THINGS DOWN. KEPT CHANCE POPS GOING THROUGH MOST OF THE DAY...
THOUGH TRIED TO END PRECIP OVER THE CT VALLEY IN THE AFTERNOON.
MODELS ALSO TRY TO GIVE SOME HIGHER QPF VALUES...BUT SUSPECT SOME
CONVECTIVE FEEDBACK ON THE SOLUTIONS. DID KEEP SOME HIGHER AMOUNTS
OVER NE MA/S NH...POSSIBLE OVER 1/4".
WITH CLOUDS AND SHOWERS LINGERING...TEMPS WILL BE COOLER THAN
PREVIOUSLY FORECAST. ONLY EXPECT HIGHS IN THE 60S TO AROUND 70 OVER
E MA/RI...WITH LOWER-MID 70S OVER THE CT VALLEY WHERE THERE IS THE
BEST CHANCE OF SOME SUN BREAKING OUT IN THE AFTERNOON.
&&
.LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/...
SOME LINGERING SHOWERS ASSOCD WITH COASTAL LOW SE OF ACK ARE
POSSIBLE ACROSS E MA SUN EVENING AND HAVE CHC POPS IN THIS REGION.
AS STORM PULLS AWAY ANY SHOWERS WILL END BUT EXPECT MOCLDY SKIES FOR
MOST OF THE NIGHT.
UPPER LEVEL VORTEX WILL DIG INTO THE NORTHERN GT LAKES DURING MON
WITH ASSOCD COLD FRONT REACHING CENTRAL NY BY LATE MON OR MON
EVENING. SOME INSTABILITY FCST TO DEVELOP MON AFTN...ESPECIALLY
AWAY FROM THE COAST WHICH SHOULD ALLOW FOR SCT AFTERNOON
SHOWERS/TSTMS IN THE INTERIOR. CONFIDENCE IN SVR WX IS LOW AS BEST
INSTABILITY APPEARS TO BE OVER MID ATLC REGION WHILE STRONGEST 0-6KM
BULK SHEAR IS WELL TO THE WEST.
FRONT EXPECTED TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION MON NGT AND SLOW DOWN AS
WAVE DEVELOPS ON THE FRONT. THIS WAVE WILL ENHANCE LOW LEVEL
CONVERGENCE AND COMBINED WITH ABUNDANT MOISTURE SHOULD RESULT IN
SHOWERS AND A FEW TSTMS SOMETIME MON NGT AND POSSIBLY LINGERING INTO
TUE DEPENDING ON TIMING. THERE ARE DIFFERENCES WITH THE SPEED OF
THE FRONT AND HOW FAST THE FRONT CLEARS THE AREA ON TUE SO
CONFIDENCE ON TIMING OF THE SHOWERS IS LOW. WE HAVE LIKELY POPS
MON NGT FOR MOST OF THE REGION AND KEPT CHC POPS FOR TUE AS WE FAVOR
SLOWER TIMING.
UPPER LEVEL VORTEX EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO NEW ENG AND SE CANADA
WED/THU WHICH WILL RESULT IN COOL AND UNSETTLED PATTERN WITH LOTS OF
CLOUDS AND A FEW SHOWERS FROM TIME TO TIME. MAX TEMPS PROBABLY WILL
ONLY REACH MID 60S HIER TERRAIN TO LOWER 70S ELSEWHERE ACROSS THE
REGION WED/THU.
MODEL CONSENSUS SUGGESTS THE VORTEX WILL GRADUALLY LIFT NORTHWARD
FRI/SAT WHICH SHOULD RESULT IN IMPROVING CONDITIONS AND MILDER TEMPS
APPROACHING SEASONABLE NORMS. ECMWF MORE EMPHATIC ABOUT THIS THAN
GFS SO CONFIDENCE NOT HIGH. EITHER WAY...WE WILL STILL BE UNDER
CYCLONIC FLOW FRI SO CANT RULE OUT A FEW DIURNAL SHOWERS FRI.
BETTER CHC OF DRY AND SEASONABLE SAT.
&&
.AVIATION /01Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/...
TONIGHT...
VFR-MVFR IN SCT SHOWERS AND TSTMS BAF/BDL/ORH. MVFR TO LOCAL IFR IN
LOW CLOUDS AND PATCHY FOG FOR PVD/BOS/HYA/ACK.
SUNDAY...
MVFR-IFR CEILINGS AND MVFR VSBYS IN PATCHY FOG FOR EASTERN MA/RI.
MVFR CIGS/VSBYS SLOWLY IMPROVING OVER W MA/N CENTRAL CT TO VFR BY
AROUND MIDDAY.
OUTLOOK...SUNDAY NIGHT THOUGH THURSDAY...
PATCHY MVFR FOG POSSIBLE SUNDAY EVENING ALONG WITH A FEW SHOWERS E
MA...OTHERWISE MAINLY VFR.
MON/MON NGT...COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE WEST WITH INCREASING
CHC OF MVFR CONDITIONS IN SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS MONDAY AFTERNOON
INTERIOR AND ALL TERMINALS MON NGT.
TUE...LINGERING MVFR CONDITIONS POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY EASTERN
TERMINALS AS FRONT WILL BE SLOW TO CLEAR THE AREA.
WED/THU...MAINLY VFR...BUT AREAS OF MVFR POSSIBLE IN SCT SHOWERS
UNDER UPPER LOW.
&&
.MARINE...
TONIGHT...
EXPECT LIGHT WINDS MAINLY FROM THE E-SE. SEAS 3 FT OR LESS.
SCATTERED SHOWERS OVER THE EASTERN WATERS AFTER MIDNIGHT...WITH
SHOWERS AND SCATTERED TSTMS ON THE SOUTHERN WATERS. 1-3NM VSBYS
AFTER MIDNIGHT IN PATCHY FOG.
SUNDAY...
WEAK FRONT SLOWLY MOVES OVER THE WATERS DURING THE DAY...PUSHING
OFFSHORE BY EVENING. EXPECT PATCHY FOG IN THE MORNING...WITH
SCATTERED SHOWERS THROUGH THE DAY. E-NE WIND 15 KT OR LESS WITH
SEAS 3 FT OR LESS.
OUTLOOK...SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...
A FEW NE WIND GUSTS TO 20-25 KTS POSSIBLE FOR A BRIEF TIME SUN
EVENING ASSOCD WITH COASTAL LOW...THEN DIMINISHING WINDS BECOMING
SOUTHERLY 15 KTS OR LESS MON.
SMALL CRAFT WINDS POSSIBLE LATE MON NGT AND TUE MORNING JUST AHEAD
OF THE COLD FRONT. A FEW G25 KTS POSSIBLE. WE UNDERCUT WNAWAVE
GUIDANCE WITH SW FLOW...BUT SEAS STILL SHOULD BUILD TO 5 FT OVER
OUTER WATERS LATE MON NGT AND TUE.
WED/THU...GENERALLY SW WINDS 15 KTS OR LESS WITH A FEW G20 KTS
POSSIBLE WED. SEAS GENERALLY 2-4 FT ON OUTER WATERS WITH A PERIOD
OF 5 FT SEAS POSSIBLE LATE WED/WED NIGHT.
&&
.BOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CT...FLASH FLOOD WATCH UNTIL 11 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR CTZ002.
MA...FLASH FLOOD WATCH UNTIL 11 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR MAZ002-008-
009.
NH...NONE.
RI...NONE.
MARINE...NONE.
&&
$$
SYNOPSIS...KJC
NEAR TERM...NOCERA - UPDATED 930 PM
SHORT TERM...EVT
LONG TERM...KJC
AVIATION...KJC/EVT
MARINE...KJC/EVT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WICHITA KS
1224 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008
.AVIATION...
18Z TAFS...VFR CONDITIONS FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE TAF
PERIOD...BUT STRATUS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL
KANSAS OVERNIGHT. SOME CONVECTION COULD DEVELOP TOWARD DAYBREAK
ACROSS CENTRAL KANSAS AND COULD AFFECT THE KRSL...KSLN...KHUT AND
KICT TAF SITES DURING THE MORNING HOURS. WE INTRODUCED SOME CB TO
THESE SITES...BUT WILL LEAVE VCTS OUT UNTIL CONFIDENCE INCREASES.
SCHRECK
&&
.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 637 AM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008/
AVIATION...
12Z TAF UPDATE...LIFR CIGS AND VISIBILITIES WILL CONTINUE TO
AFFECT CNU TERMINAL UNTIL MID MORNING...WITH LIFR CIGS ALSO HITTING
HUT/ICT TERMINALS DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. SOUTHERLY WINDS
WILL GRADUALLY INCREASE ACROSS THE REGION WITH VFR CONDITIONS
EXPECTED FOR THE AFTERNOON/EVENING TIME FRAME. A FEW STORMS COULD
DEVELOP JUST WEST OF CENTRAL KANSAS AND MOVE INTO THE AREA AFTER
6PM...HOWEVER DUE TO THE SPARSE COVERAGE WILL NOT MENTION THUNDER
FOR ANY TERMINAL AT THIS JUNCTURE.
JAKUB
PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 316 AM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008/
DISCUSSION...
THE MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS FORECAST PACKAGE IS THE FOG POTENTIAL
THIS MORNING AND PRECIPITATION CHANCES ENTERING THE PICTURE AGAIN
TONIGHT AND CONTINUING THROUGH WEDNESDAY.
TODAY-TONIGHT:
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO SETTLE ACROSS SOUTHEAST
KANSAS EARLY THIS MORNING...BEFORE RETURN FLOW SETS UP AGAIN THIS
AFTERNOON. AS A RESULT...THE AREAS OF DENSE FOG SHOULD BURN OFF
FAIRLY QUICKLY THIS MORNING DUE LIMITED DEPTH. THIS RETURN FLOW WILL
ALSO BRING BACK THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY...MAINLY
ACROSS AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF THE I-35/135 CORRIDOR. THIS AREA MAY
START SEEING SCATTERED ELEVATED CONVECTION DEVELOP MAINLY AFTER 00Z
WITH SOME OF THE STORMS POSSIBLY BECOME SEVERE DUE TO GOOD
DIRECTIONAL SHEAR IN THE 0-6KM LAYER (35-40KTS). MOST OF THE STORMS
SHOULD TRAVEL IN A WEST TO EAST MANNER...BUT THE DEVIANT RIGHT
MOVERS WILL GENERALLY MOVE SOUTH-SOUTHEAST. THESE STORMS COULD
PERSIST THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT DUE TO GOOD ISENTROPIC LIFT IN THE
310-315K LAYER.
SUNDAY-SUNDAY NIGHT:
LATEST WATER VAPOR LOOP WAS SHOWING A FAIRLY WOUND UP PIECE OF
ENERGY ROTATING THROUGH BRITISH COLUMBIA. THIS FEATURE IS EXPECTED
TO MOVE EAST AND CAUSE MORE JET ENERGY TO MOVE THROUGH THE NORTHERN
AND CENTRAL PLAINS MAINLY ON SUNDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR A
FRONTAL BOUNDARY TO TRAVEL THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA ON SUNDAY
NIGHT. THE GFS IS THE MOST PROGRESSIVE IN DRIVING THIS BOUNDARY
SOUTH ON SUNDAY NIGHT WHILE THE ECMWF/UKMET ARE A LITTLE SLOWER. WE
ARE FAVORING MORE OF THE SLOWER ECMWF/UKMET APPROACH...DUE TO THE
BULK OF THE ENERGY REMAINING IN THE NORTHERN PLAINS. HOWEVER...WE
WILL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE AIRCRAFT DATA FOR POTENTIAL JET
MAXES MOVING THROUGH THE REGION. WE SHOULD BEGIN TO SEE THE
CONVECTION FIRING UP ALONG THE COLD FRONT ON SUNDAY NIGHT. THE
POSITION OF THIS FRONT WILL BE QUITE TRICKY THIS FAR OUT...BUT IT
APPEARS LIKE SOUTHEAST KANSAS MAY BE LESS CAPPED SO THEY MAY SEE THE
CONVECTION FIRE FIRST WITH THE CONVECTION BUILDING WESTWARD ALONG
THE COLD FRONT DURING THE EVENING. SOME OF THESE STORMS WILL ALSO
HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME SEVERE WITH LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING
WINDS BEING THE MAIN THREATS AT THIS TIME. MORE HEAVY
RAINFALL/FLOODING ALSO LOOKS PROMISING FOR SOUTHEAST KANSAS...BUT WE
WILL HOLD OFF ON THE FLOOD WATCH FOR NOW.
MONDAY:
THE COLD FRONT SHOULD CONTINUE TO SLIDE SOUTH INTO AREAS NEAR THE
KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA BORDER ON MONDAY MORNING...WITH MOST OF THE
CONVECTION ENDING BY AFTERNOON. THE REMAINDER OF DAY...SHOULD BE
FAIRLY MILD WITH LOWER DEWPOINTS DUE TO DECENT SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE
FRONT/CONVECTION.
MONDAY NIGHT-TUESDAY NIGHT:
THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE BUILDING IN THE
ROCKIES AND ALLOW FOR THE LOW LEVEL FLOW TO BECOME MORE EASTERLY.
THIS COULD SET UP A PATTERN FOR THUNDERSTORM COMPLEXES DEVELOPING IN
THE HIGH PLAINS AND ROLLING INTO PORTIONS OF OUR FORECAST AREA
BEGINNING MONDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE
WEEK. THE FIRST COMPLEX COULD MOVE THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL AND
POSSIBLY SOUTHEAST KANSAS BEGINNING MONDAY NIGHT. BEYOND THIS
TIMEFRAME...TIMING AND PLACEMENT OF THESE COMPLEXES ARE QUITE
DIFFICULT TO PREDICT. THEREFORE...WE HAVE KEPT A CHANCE IN THE
FORECAST THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD.
COX
&&
.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
WICHITA-KICT 88 68 90 66 / 10 30 20 40
HUTCHINSON 88 67 90 65 / 10 30 20 40
NEWTON 88 67 89 65 / 10 20 30 50
ELDORADO 86 67 89 65 / 10 30 30 50
WINFIELD-KWLD 87 69 90 66 / 10 30 20 40
RUSSELL 90 67 91 64 / 20 30 30 40
GREAT BEND 90 67 92 65 / 20 30 20 40
SALINA 90 68 90 65 / 10 30 30 40
MCPHERSON 88 67 89 64 / 10 30 30 40
COFFEYVILLE 87 68 89 66 / 10 10 30 50
CHANUTE 86 66 88 66 / 10 10 30 50
IOLA 87 66 88 65 / 10 10 30 50
PARSONS-KPPF 87 67 89 66 / 10 10 30 50
&&
.ICT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NONE.
&&
$$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
130 PM EDT SAT JUN 14 2008
UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAFS
.DISCUSSION... ISSUED AT 405 AM EDT
00Z ROABS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW DEEP CLOSED UPR LO
WITH POCKET OF -20C H5 TEMPS CENTERED OVER NW ONTARIO. SEVERAL
SHRTWS OF NOTE ROTATING ARND THIS UPR LO. THE FIRST IS JUST ABOUT ON
TOP OF DLH AT MIDNGT...WITH A CLUSTER OF CLD COVER OVER THE W HALF
OF THE FA. DRY AIR IN THE LLVLS AS SHOWN ON THE 00Z GRB ROAB/TAMDAR
SDNG FM SAW HAS LIMITED ANY PCPN TO JUST A SPRINKLE OR TWO UNDER
THIS CLD COVER. SCT SHRA NOTED OVER THE MN ARROWHEAD...WHERE DEEPER
MSTR SHOWN ON THE 00Z TAMDAR SDNG FM DLH AND ESPECIALLY THE 00Z INL
RAOB SUGGESTS BETTER SUPPORT FOR SHRA. TEMP PROFILE ON THE INL RAOB
IS ABOUT MOIST ADIABATIC...SO JUST A LTG STRIKE OR TWO WAS OBSVD
EARLIER. ANOTHER SHRTWV IS NOTED JUST SW OF LK WINNIPEG ON THE SW
FLANK OF THE UPR LO. SCT SHRA...WITH A FEW LTG STRIKES EARLIER...
NOTED ALG ACCOMPANYING SFC LO PRES TROF STRETCHING FM ND THRU NW MN
INTO FAR WRN ONTARIO. ANOTHER CLOSED UPR LO UNDER A POOL OF -20C AIR
AT H5 IS PRESENT OVER WRN ALBERTA AND MOVING SLOWLY ESEWD.
MAIN FCST CONCERNS THIS PACKAGE ARE SHRA/TSRA CHCS THIS WEEKEND INTO
MON ASSOCIATED WITH CLOSED LOWS OVER ONTARIO AND ALBERTA.
FOR TDAY...SHRTWV NOW OVER DLH WL SHIFT ACRS THE FA DURING THE EARLY
MRNG HRS. COMBINATION OF DIURNAL COOLING/DRY AIRMASS IN PLACE SUG
ANY SHRA WL LIKELY DSPT DURING THE NGT. STRONGER SHRTWV NOW SW OF LK
WINNIPEG IS PROGGED TO MOVE TO THE MN ARROWHEAD BY 12Z SAT AND THEN
SWING ACRS LK SUP INTO ONTARIO BY 00Z SUN. TIMING OF THIS SHRTWV
INDICATES THE ACCOMPANYING DPVA/H85-5 QVECTOR CNVGC WL BE BEST IN
SYNC WITH THE DIURNAL HTG CYCLE OVER THE CNTRL AND ERN ZNS AS H5
THERMAL TROF (TEMP ARND -18C) SWINGS OVHD. 00Z NAM/RUC13/LOCAL
REGIONAL HI RES WRF MODEL SUG CNVCTN WL DVLP OVER THE INTERIOR
WCNTRL TOWARD NOON WITH CONVECTIVE TEMPS NOT FAR FM 70. HOWEVER...
00Z RUC13/LOCAL HI RES WRF MODEL SHOW COMBINATION OF FAIRLY STRONG
LLVL SLY FLOW AHEAD OF SHRTWV AND LK BREEZE OFF LK MI WL OVERSPREAD
THE ERN ZNS DURING THE DAY AND LIMITS DESTABILIZATION THERE WITH LK
COOLING...WITH NO LK SUP BREEZE MOVING INLAND INTO THE E TO ENHANCE
LLVL CNVGC AT INTERSECTION OF THESE BNDRYS. WL GO WITH HIER POPS
OVER THE INTERIOR CNTRL ZNS WHERE SPC SREF PAGE SHOWS HIER
PROBABILITY OF SUBSTANTIVE CAPSES AOA 500 J/KG. SPC FCST SHOWS MUCH
OF THE FA IN A SLGT RISK FOR SVR TS TDAY. FCST MODEST LAPSE RATES
CLOSE TO MOIST ADIABATIC (H7-5 LAPSE RATES ARND 6.5C/KM) SHOWN BY
ALL NUMERICAL MODELS (AND SHOWN ON THE 00Z INL RAOB) DO NOT SEEM TO
JUSTIFY THIS LISTING...BUT FAST UNIDIRECTIONAL MID LVL FLOW...MID
LVL DRYING ON THE SRN FLANK OF SHRTWV TRACK (MAX SFC-H7 THETA E
DIFFERENCE FCST TO REACH 18C AT ERY LATE IN THE DAY)...AND FCST
0-6KM BULK SHEAR APRCHG 40 KTS IN CONCERT WITH UNSTABLE PBL MIGHT
INDICATE A THREAT OF DAMAGING WINDS AND LARGE HAIL...ESPECIALLY WITH
FCST WBZ IN THE FVRBL 8.5-9.5K FT RANGE. IN FACT...MOT IN ND
REPORTED A WIND GUST OF 44 KT LAST EVNG AT 01Z WHEN TS PASSED THERE.
BEST CHC FOR SVR TS WOULD SEEM TO BE OVER THE CENTRAL IN AREA OF
HIER CAPES AND WHERE LK BREEZE CNVGC WOULD SEEM TO MOST LIKELY WITH
CNVGC NEAR THE LIMITING STREAMLINE OFF LK MI. DRYING/DVLPG MID LVL
CAP OVER THE W IN THE AFTN IN THE WAKE OF THE SHRTWV WL LIMIT POPS
THERE...ESPECIALLY WITH AN INFLUX OF LK SUP COOLING/STABILIZATION.
WITH DRYING IN THE WAKE OF DEPARTING SHRTWV/LOSS OF DIURNAL HTG...
LOOKS LIKE THERE WL BE A DRY PD AFT ANY LINGERING EVNG CNVCTN OVER
THE SCNTRL AND E WANES IN THE EVNG. HOWEVER...RETURN SW FLOW/DPVA/
DEEP LYR H85-3 QVECTOR CNVGC/DESTABILIZATION WITH HGT FALLS AHEAD OF
APRCHG ALBERTA SHRTWV WHICH IS FCST TO MOVE TO NEAR KDLH BY 12Z SUN
JUSTIFY A RETURN OF CHC POPS OVER THE W HALF OF THE FA LATE. WITH
MORE RAPID RETURN OF MSTR AHD OF THIS SYS... CONTINUED TREND OF
RAISING LO TEMPS.
ON SUN...SHRTWV IS FCST TO PUSH ACRS LK SUP DURING THE DAY...WITH
ATTENDANT SFC COLD FNT CROSSING THE FA AS WELL. SEEMS BEST CHC FOR
SHRA/TSRA WL BE OVER THE CNTRL AND E AGAIN PER TIMING OF THE SFC
COLD FNT. THE NAM/UKMET ARE QUITE AGGRESSIVE WITH MID LVL DRYING
THAT OUTRUNS THE SFC COLD FNT...BUT THE GFS SHOWS A SLOWER DRYING
TREND SO THAT SHRA/TSRA WOULD BE MORE LIKELY ALG THE FNT.
CONSIDERING THE SHRTWV TRACKS JUST TO THE N...WOULD TEND TO FAVOR
THE FASTER DRYING/LOWER QPF EXHIBITED BY THE NAM/UKMET. FASTER
DRYING ALF ALSO WOULD INCRS SFC HTG WITH LESS CLD COVER. IN FACT...
MODIFIED NAM FCST SDNG FOR ERY AT 18Z FOR T/TD 70/55 YIELDS CAPE
CLOSE TO 1300 J/KG. FCST DRYING ALF (MODEL SHOWS SFC-10K FT THETA E
DIFFERENCE APRCHG 25C AT ERY AT 18Z)/STEEPENING LAPSE RATES WITH
UNIDIRECTIONAL MID LVL WSW FLOW ALF WL ENHANCE THE RISK OF SVR TSRA
WITH WBZ A FVRBL 8K FT. IN FACT...LATEST SPC OUTLOOK SHOWS THE SE
PORTIONS OF THE FA IN THE SLGT RISK. WL TEND TOWARD THE HIER ETA MOS
GUIDANCE FOR TEMP FCST.
MUCH COOLER AIR LOOKS TO INVADE THE UPR LKS SUN NGT/MON AS 00Z GFS/
UKMET/ECMWF SHOW CLOSED LO MOVING SE FM ONTARIO TO NOT FAR NE OF
ANJ. SINCE THE GFS/UKMET SHOW DRYING ALF ON THE SW FLANK OF THIS LO
AND THE ARRIVAL OF COOLER LLVL AIR CONTRIBUTING TOWARD GREATER
STABILIZATION SUN NGT IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY SFC HTG...RESTRICTED
MENTION OF POPS AFT DEPARTURE OF EVNG CNVCTN OVER THE SCNTRL AND E
TO UPSLOPE AREAS OF THE NW. BUT JUST SOME LIGHT SPRINKLES/-SHRA
EXPECTED THERE WITH RELATIVELY SHALLOW MSTR. GFS AND ESPECIALLY THE
ECWMF SHOW SOMEWHAT DEEPER MSTR ARRIVING ON MON/MON NGT WITH
REINFORCING SHRTWV/SFC COLD FNT. WENT WITH THE HIER POPS OVER THE
KEWEENAW AND E OF MQT CLOSER TO THE CUTOFF LO/LOWER MID LVL
TEMPS/UPSLOPE FLOW IN CYC NW FLOW. WITH H85 TEMPS ON FCST 2-4C ON
MON...HI TEMPS WL DO NO BETTER THAN ABOUT 65.
&&
.AVIATION (FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE)...
EXPECT VFR CONDITIONS TO PREVAIL AT KCMX/KSAW THRU THIS FCST PERIOD.
THERE IS STILL A POTENTIAL FOR ISOLD/SCT CONVECTION TO FORM THIS
AFTN...ESPECIALLY OVER CNTRL UPPER MI...AS A DISTURBANCE PASSES THRU
THE UPPER LAKES. HAVE THUS MAINTAINED A MENTION OF -SHRA AT KSAW
LATER IN THE AFTN. ANOTHER DISTURBANCE APPROACHING LATE TONIGHT/SUN
MORNING WILL BRING THE POSSIBILITY OF MORE -SHRA. INCLUDED A MENTION
OF -SHRA FOR A FEW HRS SUN MORNING AT KCMX AND LATE MORNING/EARLY
AFTN AT KSAW.
&&
.MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)...
WINDS SHOULD REMAIN UNDER 25KT THROUGH THURSDAY. IN GENERAL...THE
STRONGEST WINDS WILL LIKELY OCCUR SUNDAY NIGHT THRU MONDAY NIGHT AS
LOW PRESSURE EAST OF LAKE SUPERIOR SLOWLY MOVES TO SOUTHERN QUEBEC
AND HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS. NORTHWEST WINDS
SHOULD BE IN THE 15-25KT RANGE DURING THAT TIME...MAINLY OVER THE
EAST HALF OF LAKE SUPERIOR.
&&
.MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE.
&&
$$
DISCUSSION...KC
AVIATION...ROLFSON
MARINE...DLG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
752 AM EDT FRI JUN 13 2008
UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 12Z TAF ISSUANCE.
.DISCUSSION...
00Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW DEEP UPR LO NEAR
THE ND/CNDN BORDER DRIFTING SLOWLY EWD BTWN RDG OVER THE PAC NW AND
HI AMPLITUDE RDG STRETCHING FM HUDSON BAY TO THE SE STATES. SURGE OF
MSTR AHD OF THIS TROF WITH 02Z TAMDAR SDNG FM SAW SHOWING 190/50KT
WIND AT H910 AND PWAT AS HI AS 2 INCHES AT DVN HAS FUELED RIBBON OF
SHRA/TSRA THAT IS NOW IMPACTING THE SE PART OF THE FA. ALTHOUGH UPR
LO AND ATTENDANT SFC COLD FNT REMAINS TO THE W IN MN...ARRIVAL OF
DRIER AIR SHOWN ON THE 00Z MPX SDNG IN THE SW FLOW ALF AHEAD OF THE
SFC FNT HAS CAUSED THE PCPN OVER THE W HALF OF THE FA TO DIMINISH TO
JUST ISOLD -SHRA. WHERE DRYING ALF HAS OCCURRED OVER THE W...SOME
PLACES ARE REPORTING VSBY AS LO AS 1/4SM IN FG. CLOSER TO THE SFC
COLD FNT/UPR LO (WHERE H5 TEMPS ARE AOB -20C AS FAR E AS INL)...SOME
SHRA/TSRA ARE IMPACTING NCNTRL MN. MUCH COLDER LLVL AIR IS NOTED TO
THE W OF THE UPR LO POSITIONS WITH 00Z H85 TEMPS 5C AT BIS/GGW.
MAIN FCST CONCERNS THIS PACKAGE INVOLVE SHRA/TSRA CHCS WITH SHRTWVS
ROTATING ARND UPR LO NOW IN THE NRN PLAINS THAT IS FCST TO DRIFT
SLOWLY EWD THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
FOR TDAY...NAM/GFS SHOW UPR LO DRIFTING NEWD INTO NW ONTARIO THRU
00Z SAT. WSW FLOW ON THE SE FLANK OF THIS SYS LOOKS TO ADVECT VERY
DRY AIRMASS SHOWN ON THE 00Z MPX RAOB. THIS MOTION OF THE UPR LO WL
ALSO RESTRICT THE TEMP DROP ALF...WITH CORE OF -20C AIR AT H5
REMAINING WELL TO THE NW. IN FACT...NAM/GFS FCST SDNGS SHOW FAIRLY
IMPRESSIVE MID LVL CAPPING DVLPG ABV H7-6 AND LIMITING DEPTH OF ANY
UPDRAFTS ABV RELATIVELY HI LCL NR H85. SO...EVEN THOUGH SFC COLD FNT
WL DRIFT INTO THE WRN ZNS THIS AFTN...THINK CHCS OF CNVCTN ALG THIS
BNDRY WL BE QUITE A BIT LESS THAN OBSVD IN MN YDAY AFTN/EVNG.
CONSIDERING THE STRENGTH OF THE CAP/LO EQUILIBRIUM LVL WITH
ENVIRONMENTAL TEMP ABV -10C AT THAT LVL...REMOVED MENTION OF TS AND
JUST MENTIONED ISOLD -SHRA WITH 00Z SAT FCST KINX AT IWD ONLY ARND
20. OTRW...ANY MRNG FOG/ST WL DSPT QUICKLY WITH ARRIVAL OF DRY AIR/
DIURNAL HTG/MIXING. AS FOR TEMPS...WL TEND TO BUMP UP FCST MAX TEMPS
THIS AFTN CONSIDERING UPSTREAM REPORTS IN THE UPR 70S OVER SRN MN
YDAY AND MIXING TO H75 OVER THE CNTRL ZNS ON GFS/NAM FCST SDNGS.
EXPECT LOWER HI TEMPS DOWNWIND OF LK MI AND OVER THE W.
AS UPR LO OVER NW ONTARIO DRIFTS OFF TO THE NE TNGT...A SHRTWV
ROTATING ARND THIS FEATURE IS FCST TO PUSH INTO THE MN ARROWHEAD BY
12Z SAT. IN THE ABSENCE OF DIURNAL HTG AND UNDER DRY/STABLE AIRMASS
ALF...MOST OF THE NGT WL BE QUIET AHD OF THIS NEXT FEATURE. ANY
ISOLD -SHRA OVER THE W THIS AFTN WL END QUICKLY WITH LOSS OF DIURNAL
HTG...PROBABLY BY 00Z. INTRODUCED SLGT CHC POPS LATE OVER WRN LK SUP
TO ACCOUNT FOR INCOMING H5 THERMAL TROFFING/WEAKENING OF MID LVL
CAP/MID LVL MOISTENING AHD OF APRCHG SHRTWV IN MN.
COMBINATION OF INCOMING SHRTWV/DIURNAL HTG WL RESULT IN SCT SHRA/
TSRA ON SAT AS H5 THERMAL TROF (TEMPS AS LO AS -18C) SWINGS OVHD
WITH SHRTWV AND CONVECTIVE TEMPS ARE FCST IN THE MID 60S. SINCE THE
ARRIVAL OF THE SHRTWV WL BE BEST IN SYNC WITH THE SOLAR HTG CYCLE
OVER THE CNTRL AND E...WL PAINT A BIT HIER CHC POPS THERE...
ESPECIALLY OVER THE INTERIOR WHERE BREEZE OFF LK MI MIGHT ENHANCE
LLVL CNVGC A BIT. DESPITE ARRIVAL OF H5 THERMAL TROFFING...GFS/NAM
FCST SDNGS SHOW ONLY MODEST MID LVL LAPSE RATES...SO THREAT OF SVR
TS SHOULD BE MINIMAL DESPITE RATHER IMPRESSIVE 0-6KM BULK SHEAR FCST
IN THE 40 KT RANGE. LO WBZ FCST ARND 8.5K FT WOULD SUPPORT MORE LIKE
PEA SIZED HAIL UNDER THE STRONGER CNVCTN. WITH CONVECTIVE TEMPS SO
LO AND MORE CLD ARND... HI TEMPS WL BE QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN TDAY.
PREFER TO TEND TOWARD THE LOWER GFS MOS GUIDANCE FOR HI TEMPS.
AS UPR LO TRACKS SLOWLY ACRS ONTARIO ON SAT NGT/SUN...NUMERICAL
MODELS HINT AT THE PASSAGE OF ADDITIONAL SHRTWVS ON ITS SRN FLANK
ACRS THE UPR GRT LKS. BUT TIMING OF THESE SHRTWVS IS PROBLEMATIC AT
BEST. SINCE THERE IS LIKELY TO BE SOME DRYING IN THE WAKE OF THE
SHRTWV RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHRA CHCS ON SAT...CUT POPS ON SAT NGT TO
TO SCHC TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LOSS OF DIURNAL HTG...EXCEPT IN THE
EVNG OVER THE E DUE TO RESIDUAL IMPACT OF DEPARTING SHRTWV. THEN
MAINTAINED GOING 30 POP ON SUN WITH DIURNAL HTG UNDER H5 THERMAL
TROFFING AND APRCH OF ANOTHER SHRTWV. WITH CONVECTIVE TEMPS FCST A
BIT HIER ON SUN...EXPECT MAX TEMPS A COUPLE OF DEGREES HIER THAN ON
SAT. MAINTAINED LO CHC POPS SUN NGT/MON TO REFLECT DIGGING OF CUTOFF
LO FM ONTARIO INTO THE UPR GRT LKS. EXPECT TEMPS FALLING BLO NORMAL
AS LLVL COOL AIR NOW ON THE WRN FLANK OF THIS SYS FINALLY SURGES
INTO THE FA.
&&
.AVIATION (FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE)...
WITH THE BEGINNING OF DAYTIME HEATING AND STRONGER SOUTHERLY
WINDS...VSBYS HAVE BEEN IMPROVING AT BOTH TAF SITES. CIGS REMAIN
LOW...AT LIFR OR VLIFR...BUT WITH CONTINUED DAYTIME HEATING...THESE
SHOULD JUMP TO VFR IN ABOUT 2 HOURS. VFR CONDITIONS ARE THEN
EXPECTED TO PERSIST THROUGH THE REST OF THE FORECAST...WITH GUSTY
WINDS TODAY AS DAYTIME HEATING MIXES DOWN HIGHER WINDS ALOFT.
&&
.MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)...
WINDS CONTINUE TO DECREASE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR OVERNIGHT AS A COLD
FRONT HAS BEEN MOVING SLOWLY ACROSS. WINDS NOW ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR
ARE BELOW 25 KNOTS...AND THIS WILL REMAIN THROUGH THE FORECAST
PERIOD. ONLY ITEM OF INTEREST IS A COLD FRONT THAT PASSES SUNDAY
NIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH LOW PRESSURE MOVING SE INTO SE CANADA. THE
PRESSURE GRADIENT MAY BE TIGHT ENOUGH TO RESULT IN SOME 15 TO 25
KNOT NW WINDS ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR ON MONDAY...AIDED BY COLD AIR
FLOWING SOUTH ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR.
&&
.MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE.
&&
$$
DISCUSSION...KC
AVIATION...AJ
MARINE...AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
345 AM EDT FRI JUN 13 2008
.DISCUSSION...
00Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW DEEP UPR LO NEAR
THE ND/CNDN BORDER DRIFTING SLOWLY EWD BTWN RDG OVER THE PAC NW AND
HI AMPLITUDE RDG STRETCHING FM HUDSON BAY TO THE SE STATES. SURGE OF
MSTR AHD OF THIS TROF WITH 02Z TAMDAR SDNG FM SAW SHOWING 190/50KT
WIND AT H910 AND PWAT AS HI AS 2 INCHES AT DVN HAS FUELED RIBBON OF
SHRA/TSRA THAT IS NOW IMPACTING THE SE PART OF THE FA. ALTHOUGH UPR
LO AND ATTENDANT SFC COLD FNT REMAINS TO THE W IN MN...ARRIVAL OF
DRIER AIR SHOWN ON THE 00Z MPX SDNG IN THE SW FLOW ALF AHEAD OF THE
SFC FNT HAS CAUSED THE PCPN OVER THE W HALF OF THE FA TO DIMINISH TO
JUST ISOLD -SHRA. WHERE DRYING ALF HAS OCCURRED OVER THE W...SOME
PLACES ARE REPORTING VSBY AS LO AS 1/4SM IN FG. CLOSER TO THE SFC
COLD FNT/UPR LO (WHERE H5 TEMPS ARE AOB -20C AS FAR E AS INL)...SOME
SHRA/TSRA ARE IMPACTING NCNTRL MN. MUCH COLDER LLVL AIR IS NOTED TO
THE W OF THE UPR LO POSITIONS WITH 00Z H85 TEMPS 5C AT BIS/GGW.
MAIN FCST CONCERNS THIS PACKAGE INVOLVE SHRA/TSRA CHCS WITH SHRTWVS
ROTATING ARND UPR LO NOW IN THE NRN PLAINS THAT IS FCST TO DRIFT
SLOWLY EWD THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
FOR TDAY...NAM/GFS SHOW UPR LO DRIFTING NEWD INTO NW ONTARIO THRU
00Z SAT. WSW FLOW ON THE SE FLANK OF THIS SYS LOOKS TO ADVECT VERY
DRY AIRMASS SHOWN ON THE 00Z MPX RAOB. THIS MOTION OF THE UPR LO WL
ALSO RESTRICT THE TEMP DROP ALF...WITH CORE OF -20C AIR AT H5
REMAINING WELL TO THE NW. IN FACT...NAM/GFS FCST SDNGS SHOW FAIRLY
IMPRESSIVE MID LVL CAPPING DVLPG ABV H7-6 AND LIMITING DEPTH OF ANY
UPDRAFTS ABV RELATIVELY HI LCL NR H85. SO...EVEN THOUGH SFC COLD FNT
WL DRIFT INTO THE WRN ZNS THIS AFTN...THINK CHCS OF CNVCTN ALG THIS
BNDRY WL BE QUITE A BIT LESS THAN OBSVD IN MN YDAY AFTN/EVNG.
CONSIDERING THE STRENGTH OF THE CAP/LO EQUILIBRIUM LVL WITH
ENVIRONMENTAL TEMP ABV -10C AT THAT LVL...REMOVED MENTION OF TS AND
JUST MENTIONED ISOLD -SHRA WITH 00Z SAT FCST KINX AT IWD ONLY ARND
20. OTRW...ANY MRNG FOG/ST WL DSPT QUICKLY WITH ARRIVAL OF DRY AIR/
DIURNAL HTG/MIXING. AS FOR TEMPS...WL TEND TO BUMP UP FCST MAX TEMPS
THIS AFTN CONSIDERING UPSTREAM REPORTS IN THE UPR 70S OVER SRN MN
YDAY AND MIXING TO H75 OVER THE CNTRL ZNS ON GFS/NAM FCST SDNGS.
EXPECT LOWER HI TEMPS DOWNWIND OF LK MI AND OVER THE W.
AS UPR LO OVER NW ONTARIO DRIFTS OFF TO THE NE TNGT...A SHRTWV
ROTATING ARND THIS FEATURE IS FCST TO PUSH INTO THE MN ARROWHEAD BY
12Z SAT. IN THE ABSENCE OF DIURNAL HTG AND UNDER DRY/STABLE AIRMASS
ALF...MOST OF THE NGT WL BE QUIET AHD OF THIS NEXT FEATURE. ANY
ISOLD -SHRA OVER THE W THIS AFTN WL END QUICKLY WITH LOSS OF DIURNAL
HTG...PROBABLY BY 00Z. INTRODUCED SLGT CHC POPS LATE OVER WRN LK SUP
TO ACCOUNT FOR INCOMING H5 THERMAL TROFFING/WEAKENING OF MID LVL
CAP/MID LVL MOISTENING AHD OF APRCHG SHRTWV IN MN.
COMBINATION OF INCOMING SHRTWV/DIURNAL HTG WL RESULT IN SCT SHRA/
TSRA ON SAT AS H5 THERMAL TROF (TEMPS AS LO AS -18C) SWINGS OVHD
WITH SHRTWV AND CONVECTIVE TEMPS ARE FCST IN THE MID 60S. SINCE THE
ARRIVAL OF THE SHRTWV WL BE BEST IN SYNC WITH THE SOLAR HTG CYCLE
OVER THE CNTRL AND E...WL PAINT A BIT HIER CHC POPS THERE...
ESPECIALLY OVER THE INTERIOR WHERE BREEZE OFF LK MI MIGHT ENHANCE
LLVL CNVGC A BIT. DESPITE ARRIVAL OF H5 THERMAL TROFFING...GFS/NAM
FCST SDNGS SHOW ONLY MODEST MID LVL LAPSE RATES...SO THREAT OF SVR
TS SHOULD BE MINIMAL DESPITE RATHER IMPRESSIVE 0-6KM BULK SHEAR FCST
IN THE 40 KT RANGE. LO WBZ FCST ARND 8.5K FT WOULD SUPPORT MORE LIKE
PEA SIZED HAIL UNDER THE STRONGER CNVCTN. WITH CONVECTIVE TEMPS SO
LO AND MORE CLD ARND... HI TEMPS WL BE QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN TDAY.
PREFER TO TEND TOWARD THE LOWER GFS MOS GUIDANCE FOR HI TEMPS.
AS UPR LO TRACKS SLOWLY ACRS ONTARIO ON SAT NGT/SUN...NUMERICAL
MODELS HINT AT THE PASSAGE OF ADDITIONAL SHRTWVS ON ITS SRN FLANK
ACRS THE UPR GRT LKS. BUT TIMING OF THESE SHRTWVS IS PROBLEMATIC AT
BEST. SINCE THERE IS LIKELY TO BE SOME DRYING IN THE WAKE OF THE
SHRTWV RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHRA CHCS ON SAT...CUT POPS ON SAT NGT TO
TO SCHC TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LOSS OF DIURNAL HTG...EXCEPT IN THE
EVNG OVER THE E DUE TO RESIDUAL IMPACT OF DEPARTING SHRTWV. THEN
MAINTAINED GOING 30 POP ON SUN WITH DIURNAL HTG UNDER H5 THERMAL
TROFFING AND APRCH OF ANOTHER SHRTWV. WITH CONVECTIVE TEMPS FCST A
BIT HIER ON SUN...EXPECT MAX TEMPS A COUPLE OF DEGREES HIER THAN ON
SAT. MAINTAINED LO CHC POPS SUN NGT/MON TO REFLECT DIGGING OF CUTOFF
LO FM ONTARIO INTO THE UPR GRT LKS. EXPECT TEMPS FALLING BLO NORMAL
AS LLVL COOL AIR NOW ON THE WRN FLANK OF THIS SYS FINALLY SURGES
INTO THE FA.
&&
.AVIATION (FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE)...
KSAW...SHOWERS HAVE NOW PUSHED EAST OF THE SITE AND WILL REMAIN EAST
OF THE SITE THROUGH TOMORROW. THE ONLY CONCERN LEFT IS POTENTIAL FOR
FOG. WINDS HAVE BEEN TURNING TO THE SOUTH OR EVEN SLIGHTLY WEST OF
DUE SOUTH...WHICH IS NOT THAT FAVORABLE OF A WIND DIRECTION FOR FOG.
PLUS THE WIND SPEEDS ARE UP AROUND 10 MPH. HOWEVER...DRYING ALOFT
COMBINED WITH THE RECENT RAINFALL IS FAVORABLE. THEREFORE HAVE ONLY
INCLUDED A TEMPO GROUP THROUGH 10Z OF IFR CIG/VIS POTENTIAL. VFR
CONDITIONS WILL THEN CONTINUE THROUGH TOMORROW WITH DAYTIME CUMULUS
AND GUSTY WINDS DEVELOPING. THE GUSTY WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH
IN THE EVENING WITH THE LOSS OF HEATING.
KCMX...ERLY FLOW KEPT SOME LOW CIG AND VIS THERE THIS PAST EVENING.
HOWEVER...WINDS HAVE SWITCHED TO THE SE...WHICH IS NOT NEARLY AS
FAVORABLE...AND AS A RESULT THE CIG AND VIS HAVE WENT MVFR. SINCE
MODELS KEEP THE WINDS AT A SE OR EVEN SOUTH DIRECTION THROUGH THE
NIGHT...HAVE ONLY WENT AS LOW AS IFR ON THE VIS AND MVFR ON THE CIG.
VSBYS AND CIGS WILL IMPROVE LATE TONIGHT AS A COLD FRONT PASSES AND
DRIER AIR WORKS IN. VFR CONDITIONS WILL THEN CONTINUE THROUGH
TOMORROW WITH DAYTIME CUMULUS AND GUSTY WINDS DEVELOPING. THE GUSTY
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH IN THE EVENING WITH THE LOSS OF
HEATING.
&&
.MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)...
WINDS CONTINUE TO DECREASE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR OVERNIGHT AS A COLD
FRONT HAS BEEN MOVING SLOWLY ACROSS. WINDS NOW ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR
ARE BELOW 25 KNOTS...AND THIS WILL REMAIN THROUGH THE FORECAST
PERIOD. ONLY ITEM OF INTEREST IS A COLD FRONT THAT PASSES SUNDAY
NIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH LOW PRESSURE MOVING SE INTO SE CANADA. THE
PRESSURE GRADIENT MAY BE TIGHT ENOUGH TO RESULT IN SOME 15 TO 25
KNOT NW WINDS ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR ON MONDAY...AIDED BY COLD AIR
FLOWING SOUTH ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR.
&&
.MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE.
&&
$$
DISCUSSION...KC
AVIATION...VOSS/AJ
MARINE...AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
122 AM EDT FRI JUN 13 2008
.AVIATION...
THERE IS SOME CONCERN FOR A BRIEF SHOWER OR THUNDERSTORM DURING THE
EARLY MORNING HOURS DUE TO OVERHEAD DEVELOPMENT. WE CONTINUE TO
EXPECT THE STORMS OVER NORTHERN LOWER AND CENTRAL LAKE MICHIGAN TO
REMAIN TO OUR NORTH AND WEST. ANY ACTIVITY TO AFFECT SE MICHIGAN
WILL DEVELOP OVERHEAD BUT COVERAGE IS EXPECTED TO BE TOO LOW TO
INCLUDE IN THE FORECAST FOR ANY ONE AIRPORT. OUTSIDE OF THAT, A
PERIOD OF MVFR VISIBILITY IN FOG/HAZE AROUND SUNRISE IS POSSIBLE BUT
A BETTER CHANCE OF MVFR CONDITIONS WILL ARRIVE DURING THE AFTERNOON
AND EVENING WITH PROSPECTS OF HEAVIER SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.
SURFACE ANALYSIS AND MODEL FORECASTS INDICATE TOO MUCH GRADIENT FLOW
FOR MUCH OF AN OBSTRUCTION BUT SOME LIGHT HAZE SHOULD BE TO BE
EXPECTED AS SURFACE DEWPOINT APPROACHES 70F AROUND SUNRISE.
&&
.PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 1027 PM EDT THU JUN 12 2008
UPDATE...
WHILE THE STORMS TO OUR WEST AND NORTH ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN
THERE, OUTSIDE OF SOME DECAYING ACTIVITY LATE TONIGHT IN THE
SAGINAW VALLEY, WE STILL EXPECT A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS THROUGHOUT OUR AREA DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. THIS
REMAINS THE CASE AS WARM AND HUMID AIR CONTINUES TO MAKE PROGRESS
INTO SE MICHIGAN FROM INDIANA AND OHIO. THE 00Z DTX SOUNDING TELLS
THE STORY AS IT SHOWS MODEST LOW LEVEL MOISTURE BELOW 800 MB WITH
DRY AIR ABOVE. THIS DRY AIR INDICATES SOME POTENTIAL FOR COOLING
DURING THE OVERNIGHT AND FURTHER DESTABILIZATION AS LOW LEVEL
MOISTURE INCREASES ON INCREASING SOUTH FLOW. OUR GOING FORECAST
HAS THIS HANDLED WELL WITH THE HIGHEST CHANCE OF RAIN OVERNIGHT IN
THE SAGINAW VALLEY, TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY STORM REMNANTS FROM OUT
WEST, AND LOWER CHANCES NEAR THE OHIO BORDER WHERE DEVELOPMENT
OVERHEAD WILL HAVE LESS COVERAGE.
PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 411 PM EDT THU JUN 12 2008
SHORT TERM...TONIGHT
SURFACE WARM FRONT POSITIONED FROM A CHICAGO TO FINDLEY LINE WITH
SOUTHEASTERLY BACKED FLOW...COMBINED WITH PLENTY OF HIGH CLOUD
DEBRIS...KEEPING TEMPERATURES NEAR 80 IN MOST AREAS AS OF 3PM. WILL
EXPECT INLAND AREAS FROM ADRIAN TO OWOSSO TO SEE A FEW MORE DEGREE
CLIMB THIS EVENING AS WINDS BEGIN TO BACK TO THE SOUTH LATE...WHILE
LOCATIONS CLOSER TO LAKE HURON WILL STRUGGLE TO CLIMB ABOVE 80.
THE HIGHER DEWPOINTS HAVE ALSO BEEN SLOW TO ARRIVE... FINALLY
CREEPING INTO THE MID 60S IN THE FAR SOUTH. AN 18Z TAMDAR SOUNDING
OUT OF DTW SHOWS MOISTURE STARTING TO INCREASE ABOVE 800MB BUT
ALSO SHOWS A CAP IN PLACE NEAR 925MB. WE WILL NEED TO SEE
TEMPS/DEWPOINTS APPROACH 85/67 TO BREAK THROUGH THIS CAP FOR AN
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORM THIS EVENING...WHICH ADRIAN IS APPROACHING. HAVE
REMOVED THE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WORDING IN THE NORTHERN AREAS
BUT WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY AN ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS FROM DETROIT
SOUTH TO THE OHIO BORDER WHERE SURFACE BASED CAPES ARE AROUND
1500 J/KG. SPC MESO-ANALYSIS SHOWS ENHANCED 850MB MOISTURE OVER
OHIO ALSO TRYING TO PUSH NORTH INTO THIS AREA WITH WEAK LOW LEVEL
CONVERGENCE ALSO IN PLACE.
UPSTREAM SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING OVER
ILLINOIS/WISCONSIN WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK NORTHEAST TOWARDS THE
UPPER PENINSULA AS UPPER TROUGH OVER THE PLAINS PUSHES EASTWARD
WITH DEEP SOUTH SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW. ADDITIONAL AND POTENTIALLY
STRONG THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER ILLINOIS AND TRACK
INTO WESTERN LOWER OVERNIGHT AS 45+ KNOT LOW LEVEL JET NOSES INTO
THIS AREA. WILL EXPECT THIS ACTIVITY TO BE WEAKENING AS IT
APPROACHES THE TRI-CITIES LATE TONIGHT REACHING THE WARMER
MID-LEVELS UNDERNEATH THE STRONG UPPER RIDGE. HOWEVER IF THIS
CONVECTION CAN REMAIN ORGANIZED...AN ISOLATED SEVERE STORM IS NOT
OUT OF THE QUESTION. WILL INCREASE POPS TO 60 PERCENT IN THIS AREA
AFTER 6 AM WHILE JUST CARRYING A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS AFTER MIDNIGHT ELSEWHERE.
LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH THURSDAY
FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT IS SHAPING UP TO BE AN INTERESTING TIME FRAME AS
A 100+ KNOT JET LIFTS NORTH/NORTHEAST UP THE FRONT SIDE OF THE LARGE
UPPER TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL NOAM INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST/WESTERN
GREAT LAKES. BY LATE IN THE DAY...LIFT WITHIN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE
REGION OF THIS JET WILL BE SPREADING EAST INTO LAKE MICHIGAN/WESTERN
LOWER MICHIGAN ON SOUTH INTO ILLINOIS/INDIANA. WITH THIS UPPER LEVEL
SUPPORT...WOULD EXPECT SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS TO ERUPT FROM SOUTHWEST
LOWER MICHIGAN INTO ILLINOIS/INDIANA AND THEN SPREAD NORTHEAST INTO
THE AREA DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON/EVENING HOURS AS THE ASSOCIATED
SURFACE FRONTAL BOUNDARY PUSHES INTO THE REGION.
THIS PART OF THE SCENARIO...TIMING THE LARGE SCALE LIFT/FORCING...IS
THE EASY PART. THE COMPLICATING FACTOR FOR THIS FORECAST WILL BE ANY
RESIDUAL ACTIVITY FROM OVERNIGHT SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS THAT PERSISTS
INTO THE MORNING HOURS...AND WHAT THIS MAY DO TO LIMIT INSTABILITY.
AS IT IS...WOULD EXPECT THE AIRMASS THAT ADVECTS INTO THE REGION ON
STRENGTHENING SOUTH/SOUTHWEST FLOW TO SUPPORT MLCAPES NEAR 2000 J/KG
SO LONG AS EXTENSIVE CONVECTIVE DEBRIS DOES NOT LINGER INTO THE MID
AFTERNOON. WITH MID LEVEL FLOW IN THE 40-50 KNOT RANGE...SOME STORMS
WILL LIKELY BECOME SEVERE...AND GIVEN ONLY SLIGHT DIRECTIONAL CHANGE
IN THE SOUTHWESTERLY WIND FIELD...THE MAIN HAZARD WOULD BE DAMAGING
WINDS. AT A MINIMUM...WILL BE LEAVING LIKELY POPS (60-70%) IN THE
FORECAST FOR THE AREA...AND WILL MOST LIKELY PROBABLY ATTEMPT TO
DEFINE AN AREA OF EVEN GREATER CHANCE (80%)...AS THE CHANCE OF RAIN
SEEMS QUITE GOOD. WILL JUST HAVE TO MONITOR OVERNIGHT CONVECTION TO
BETTER ASSESS SEVERE POTENTIAL.
THIS WHOLE SYSTEM WILL THEN PROGRESS TO THE EAST OVERNIGHT FRIDAY
NIGHT...WITH DRY WEATHER EXPECTED ON SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT AS A
RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS EAST THROUGH THE AREA. DURING THIS
TIME FRAME...THE CENTRAL NOAM UPPER TROUGH BECOMES CENTERED OVER
CANADA WITH A BROAD...NEARLY ZONAL FLOW OVER THE NORTHERN TIER OF
STATES. SEVERAL DISTURBANCES WILL PROGRESS THROUGH THE AREA WITHIN
THIS FLOW REGIME...MAINLY IN THE SUNDAY/SUNDAY NIGHT TIME FRAME.
THIS WILL BRING ANOTHER CHANCE OF SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS...WHICH
COULD LINGER INTO MONDAY. DID ADJUST THE FORECAST SLIGHTLY FOR
TIMING...BUT KEPT POPS GOING IN THIS TIME FRAME.
AFTER THESE DISTURBANCES PROGRESS OFF TO THE EAST...THE UPPER TROUGH
WILL RECENTER OVER THE EASTERN CONUS...WITH NORTHWEST FLOW BECOMING
ESTABLISHED. A LARGE HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES INTO THE CENTRAL PART OF
THE NATION...BRINGING QUIET WEATHER FOR THE REST OF THE FORECAST.
TEMPERATURES WILL ALSO BE COOLER WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 60S TO 70S
AND LOWS GENERALLY IN THE 50S. HUMIDITY LEVELS WILL ALSO BE RATHER
PLEASANT AS THE FLOW OUT OF CANADA PERSIST INTO LATE NEXT WEEK.
MARINE...
A PREDOMINANT SOUTHEAST WIND WILL CONTINUE ACROSS ALL MARINE AREAS
INTO THIS EVENING...WITH GUSTS OF 20 TO 25 KNOTS ON LAKE HURON. THIS
PERSISTENT ONSHORE FLOW WILL RESULT IN HIGHER WAVES AND AN
INCREASED THREAT OF RIP CURRENTS TONIGHT...BEFORE THE FLOW
BECOMES SOUTH LATE TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY. WILL LEAVE CURRENT
HEADLINES THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT IN PLACE FOR LAKE HURON...BUT
CANCEL THEM OVER LAKE ST CLAIR AND WESTERN LAKE ERIE WHERE WINDS
ARE STARTING TO SUBSIDE AS WE STABILIZE. ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE A CHANCE OF
THUNDERSTORMS TONIGHT...A GREATER THREAT FOR STORMS EXISTS ON
FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT AS A COLD FRONT SWEEPS ACROSS LOWER
MICHIGAN.
&&
.DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...NONE.
LAKE HURON...
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS FROM PORT AUSTIN TO PORT
HURON...UNTIL 6 AM FRIDAY.
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.
MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.
&&
$$
AVIATION.....BT
UPDATE.......BT
SHORT TERM...KEC
LONG TERM....DG
MARINE.......DG
YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECASTS ONLINE
AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/DETROIT (ALL LOWER CASE).
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
1041 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008
.UPDATE...
UPDATED THE PRODUCTS ONCE AGAIN TO REMOVE THE WATCH AND POPS FOR
THE NORTHEASTERN CWA. REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST LOOKS GOOD.
HENNIG
&&
PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 645 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008/
AVIATION...
NOT MUCH SIGNIFICANT WITH THE TAFS THIS AFTERNOON WITH MODEST
SOUTHEAST WINDS BECOMING LIGHTER OVERNIGHT. COULD SEE SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING ALONG THE GUADALUPE AND DAVIS MOUNTAINS
TOMORROW AFTERNOON. RIGHT NOW EXPECT THIS ACTIVITY TO REMAIN CLOSE
TO THE MOUNTAINS...HOWEVER A FEW MAY STRAY EAST POSSIBLY IMPACTING
CNM...PEQ...AND FST. WILL NOT INCLUDE TS IN THE TAFS AT THIS TIME
BUT IT MAY WELL BE A PROBLEM FOR LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT IN THE LOCAL
VICINITY.
HENNIG
PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 157 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008/
DISCUSSION...
VERY HOT CONDITIONS LIKELY TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK WITH
ONLY SLIGHT CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION AS A RULE...MAINLY OVER THE
NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA. STORMS ALSO MORE LIKELY IN THE
DAVIS MOUNTAINS...THOUGH THERE WILL BE A DRYING TREND IN THE
MOUNTAINS.
IN THE SHORT TERM...CUMULUS DEVELOPMENT ALREADY OCCURRING
IN THE DAVIS AND GUADALUPE MOUNTAINS WITH LIGHTNING RECENTLY DETECTED.
WITH MOIST UPSLOPE FLOW...NAM BREAKS OUT PRECIPITATION NEAR THE
DAVIS MOUNTAINS THROUGH EARLY EVENING. HAVE PUSHED POPS SOMEWHAT
ABOVE GUIDANCE OVER THAT AREA FOR THIS EVENING. THUNDERSTORMS
FAVORED NORTHEAST OF AREA LATE AFTERNOON INTO EVENING IN AREA OF
GREATER INSTABILITY AND LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH DISTURBANCE ROTATING
AROUND UPPER LEVEL RIDGE. A FEW STORMS MAY DEVELOP OR MOVE INTO
NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE AREA...WHERE MODERATE INSTABILITY IS
INDICATED BY SATELLITE BASED LIFTED INDICIES. WIND SHEAR IS ALSO
MORE CONDUCIVE TO STRONGER ORGANIZED CONVECTION OVER THAT AREA.
CANT RULE OUT ISOLATED STORMS OVER EASTERN PARTS OF AREA...BUT WITH
LIMITED INSTABILITY WOULD EXPECT ISOLATED COVERAGE AT BEST. STEEP
LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES COULD BRING STRONG DOWNBURSTS WITH ANY
STORMS THAT DO DEVELOP.
THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK...A PERSISTENT UPPER LEVEL HIGH IS PROGGED
TO REMAIN OVER NORTHERN MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST. DISTURBANCES
WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE PANHANDLE AND NORTHWEST
TEXAS RESULTING IN A SERIES OF CONVECTIVE SYSTEMS. NORTHEAST FLOW
REMAINS FAR ENOUGH NORTH OF AREA THAT THESE STORMS SHOULD FOR THE
MOST PART REMAIN OUTSIDE THE FORECAST AREA...THOUGH THIS IS DEPENDANT
ON THE POSITION OF THE WOBBLING UPPER RIDGE FROM DAY TO DAY.
GFS AND ECMWF HINT AT A FRONT PUSHING INTO THE AREA ON MONDAY.
THOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT CONVECTION FURTHER NORTH MAY STRENGTHEN
BOUNDARY... CURRENT FORECASTS OF UPPER RIDGE POSITION ARE UNFAVORABLE
FOR THIS SCENARIO. THIS WILL BE A SITUATION TO WATCH HOWEVER AS A
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO TEMPERATURES AND PRECIPITATION COULD OCCUR IF
THE BOUNDARY DOES PUSH INTO THE FORECAST AREA.
GFS ALSO COOLING TEMPERATURES SOMEWHAT WEDNESDAY OVER THE EASTERN
HALF OF THE AREA DUE TO COOLING AFFECTED BY MCS ACTIVITY EAST OF
AREA. THOUGH THIS SCENARIO IS SOMEWHAT REALISTIC...INTERESTINGLY
COOLER 850 MB TEMPERATURES NOT REFLECTED IN LATEST GFS GUIDANCE
NUMBERS. THOUGH THIS IS SOMETHING TO WATCH AS WELL... WILL KEEP
TEMPERATURES MORE OR LESS THE SAME THROUGH THE WEEK WITH MAINLY
SMALL DAY TO DAY DIFFERENCES.
&&
.MAF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NM...NONE.
TX...NONE.
&&
$$
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
931 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008
.DISCUSSION...
WILL UPDATE THE PRODUCTS TO ADD SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 534 IN
EFFECT UNTIL 2 AM CDT SUNDAY. TWEAKED WEATHER...POP...QPF...WIND
GRIDS.
UPDATED PRODUCTS TO BE SENT SHORTLY.
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&&
.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 645 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008/
AVIATION...
NOT MUCH SIGNIFICANT WITH THE TAFS THIS AFTERNOON WITH MODEST
SOUTHEAST WINDS BECOMING LIGHTER OVERNIGHT. COULD SEE SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING ALONG THE GUADALUPE AND DAVIS MOUNTAINS
TOMORROW AFTERNOON. RIGHT NOW EXPECT THIS ACTIVITY TO REMAIN CLOSE
TO THE MOUNTAINS...HOWEVER A FEW MAY STRAY EAST POSSIBLY IMPACTING
CNM...PEQ...AND FST. WILL NOT INCLUDE TS IN THE TAFS AT THIS TIME
BUT IT MAY WELL BE A PROBLEM FOR LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT IN THE LOCAL
VICINITY.
HENNIG
PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 157 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008/
DISCUSSION...
VERY HOT CONDITIONS LIKELY TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK WITH
ONLY SLIGHT CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION AS A RULE...MAINLY OVER THE
NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA. STORMS ALSO MORE LIKELY IN THE
DAVIS MOUNTAINS...THOUGH THERE WILL BE A DRYING TREND IN THE
MOUNTAINS.
IN THE SHORT TERM...CUMULUS DEVELOPMENT ALREADY OCCURRING
IN THE DAVIS AND GUADALUPE MOUNTAINS WITH LIGHTNING RECENTLY DETECTED.
WITH MOIST UPSLOPE FLOW...NAM BREAKS OUT PRECIPITATION NEAR THE
DAVIS MOUNTAINS THROUGH EARLY EVENING. HAVE PUSHED POPS SOMEWHAT
ABOVE GUIDANCE OVER THAT AREA FOR THIS EVENING. THUNDERSTORMS
FAVORED NORTHEAST OF AREA LATE AFTERNOON INTO EVENING IN AREA OF
GREATER INSTABILITY AND LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH DISTURBANCE ROTATING
AROUND UPPER LEVEL RIDGE. A FEW STORMS MAY DEVELOP OR MOVE INTO
NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE AREA...WHERE MODERATE INSTABILITY IS
INDICATED BY SATELLITE BASED LIFTED INDICIES. WIND SHEAR IS ALSO
MORE CONDUCIVE TO STRONGER ORGANIZED CONVECTION OVER THAT AREA.
CANT RULE OUT ISOLATED STORMS OVER EASTERN PARTS OF AREA...BUT WITH
LIMITED INSTABILITY WOULD EXPECT ISOLATED COVERAGE AT BEST. STEEP
LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES COULD BRING STRONG DOWNBURSTS WITH ANY
STORMS THAT DO DEVELOP.
THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK...A PERSISTENT UPPER LEVEL HIGH IS PROGGED
TO REMAIN OVER NORTHERN MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST. DISTURBANCES
WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE PANHANDLE AND NORTHWEST
TEXAS RESULTING IN A SERIES OF CONVECTIVE SYSTEMS. NORTHEAST FLOW
REMAINS FAR ENOUGH NORTH OF AREA THAT THESE STORMS SHOULD FOR THE
MOST PART REMAIN OUTSIDE THE FORECAST AREA...THOUGH THIS IS DEPENDANT
ON THE POSITION OF THE WOBBLING UPPER RIDGE FROM DAY TO DAY.
GFS AND ECMWF HINT AT A FRONT PUSHING INTO THE AREA ON MONDAY.
THOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT CONVECTION FURTHER NORTH MAY STRENGTHEN
BOUNDARY... CURRENT FORECASTS OF UPPER RIDGE POSITION ARE UNFAVORABLE
FOR THIS SCENARIO. THIS WILL BE A SITUATION TO WATCH HOWEVER AS A
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO TEMPERATURES AND PRECIPITATION COULD OCCUR IF
THE BOUNDARY DOES PUSH INTO THE FORECAST AREA.
GFS ALSO COOLING TEMPERATURES SOMEWHAT WEDNESDAY OVER THE EASTERN
HALF OF THE AREA DUE TO COOLING AFFECTED BY MCS ACTIVITY EAST OF
AREA. THOUGH THIS SCENARIO IS SOMEWHAT REALISTIC...INTERESTINGLY
COOLER 850 MB TEMPERATURES NOT REFLECTED IN LATEST GFS GUIDANCE
NUMBERS. THOUGH THIS IS SOMETHING TO WATCH AS WELL... WILL KEEP
TEMPERATURES MORE OR LESS THE SAME THROUGH THE WEEK WITH MAINLY
SMALL DAY TO DAY DIFFERENCES.
&&
.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
BIG SPRING TX 73 101 73 102 / 20 10 10 10
CARLSBAD NM 70 105 69 103 / 10 10 10 10
DRYDEN TX 73 101 72 101 / 10 0 0 10
FORT STOCKTON TX 74 103 74 103 / 10 10 0 10
GUADALUPE PASS TX 70 101 71 99 / 0 10 0 10
HOBBS NM 71 103 68 101 / 10 10 10 10
MARFA TX 60 96 59 96 / 0 10 10 10
MIDLAND INTL AIRPORT TX 74 101 72 103 / 10 10 10 10
ODESSA TX 75 102 74 103 / 10 10 10 10
WINK TX 77 110 74 109 / 10 10 10 10
&&
.MAF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NM...NONE.
TX...NONE.
&&
$$
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
645 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008
.AVIATION...
NOT MUCH SIGNIFICANT WITH THE TAFS THIS AFTERNOON WITH MODEST
SOUTHEAST WINDS BECOMING LIGHTER OVERNIGHT. COULD SEE SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING ALONG THE GUADALUPE AND DAVIS MOUNTAINS
TOMORROW AFTERNOON. RIGHT NOW EXPECT THIS ACTIVITY TO REMAIN CLOSE
TO THE MOUNTAINS...HOWEVER A FEW MAY STRAY EAST POSSIBLY IMPACTING
CNM...PEQ...AND FST. WILL NOT INCLUDE TS IN THE TAFS AT THIS TIME
BUT IT MAY WELL BE A PROBLEM FOR LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT IN THE LOCAL
VICINITY.
HENNIG
&&
.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 157 PM CDT SAT JUN 14 2008/
DISCUSSION...
VERY HOT CONDITIONS LIKELY TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK WITH
ONLY SLIGHT CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION AS A RULE...MAINLY OVER THE
NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA. STORMS ALSO MORE LIKELY IN THE
DAVIS MOUNTAINS...THOUGH THERE WILL BE A DRYING TREND IN THE
MOUNTAINS.
IN THE SHORT TERM...CUMULUS DEVELOPMENT ALREADY OCCURRING
IN THE DAVIS AND GUADALUPE MOUNTAINS WITH LIGHTNING RECENTLY DETECTED.
WITH MOIST UPSLOPE FLOW...NAM BREAKS OUT PRECIPITATION NEAR THE
DAVIS MOUNTAINS THROUGH EARLY EVENING. HAVE PUSHED POPS SOMEWHAT
ABOVE GUIDANCE OVER THAT AREA FOR THIS EVENING. THUNDERSTORMS
FAVORED NORTHEAST OF AREA LATE AFTERNOON INTO EVENING IN AREA OF
GREATER INSTABILITY AND LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH DISTURBANCE ROTATING
AROUND UPPER LEVEL RIDGE. A FEW STORMS MAY DEVELOP OR MOVE INTO
NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE AREA...WHERE MODERATE INSTABILITY IS
INDICATED BY SATELLITE BASED LIFTED INDICIES. WIND SHEAR IS ALSO
MORE CONDUCIVE TO STRONGER ORGANIZED CONVECTION OVER THAT AREA.
CANT RULE OUT ISOLATED STORMS OVER EASTERN PARTS OF AREA...BUT WITH
LIMITED INSTABILITY WOULD EXPECT ISOLATED COVERAGE AT BEST. STEEP
LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES COULD BRING STRONG DOWNBURSTS WITH ANY
STORMS THAT DO DEVELOP.
THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK...A PERSISTENT UPPER LEVEL HIGH IS PROGGED
TO REMAIN OVER NORTHERN MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST. DISTURBANCES
WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE PANHANDLE AND NORTHWEST
TEXAS RESULTING IN A SERIES OF CONVECTIVE SYSTEMS. NORTHEAST FLOW
REMAINS FAR ENOUGH NORTH OF AREA THAT THESE STORMS SHOULD FOR THE
MOST PART REMAIN OUTSIDE THE FORECAST AREA...THOUGH THIS IS DEPENDANT
ON THE POSITION OF THE WOBBLING UPPER RIDGE FROM DAY TO DAY.
GFS AND ECMWF HINT AT A FRONT PUSHING INTO THE AREA ON MONDAY.
THOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT CONVECTION FURTHER NORTH MAY STRENGTHEN
BOUNDARY... CURRENT FORECASTS OF UPPER RIDGE POSITION ARE UNFAVORABLE
FOR THIS SCENARIO. THIS WILL BE A SITUATION TO WATCH HOWEVER AS A
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO TEMPERATURES AND PRECIPITATION COULD OCCUR IF
THE BOUNDARY DOES PUSH INTO THE FORECAST AREA.
GFS ALSO COOLING TEMPERATURES SOMEWHAT WEDNESDAY OVER THE EASTERN
HALF OF THE AREA DUE TO COOLING AFFECTED BY MCS ACTIVITY EAST OF
AREA. THOUGH THIS SCENARIO IS SOMEWHAT REALISTIC...INTERESTINGLY
COOLER 850 MB TEMPERATURES NOT REFLECTED IN LATEST GFS GUIDANCE
NUMBERS. THOUGH THIS IS SOMETHING TO WATCH AS WELL... WILL KEEP
TEMPERATURES MORE OR LESS THE SAME THROUGH THE WEEK WITH MAINLY
SMALL DAY TO DAY DIFFERENCES.
&&
.MAF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NM...NONE.
TX...NONE.
&&
$$
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