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KISSINGER HAS SAID, OF THE REPUBLIC, AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY
WAS IN FACT A SOPHISTICATED REFLECTION OF THE AMERICAN NATIONAL
INTEREST, WHICH WAS SIMPLY, TO FORTIFY THE NEW NATION'S
INDEPENDENCE UNTIL THE TERM OF THE 20TH CENTURY AMERICAN
FOREIGN POLICY WAS BASICALLY QUITE SIMPLE. TO FULFILL THE
COUNTRY'S MANIFEST DESTINY OF EXPANSION IN THIS CONTINENT AND
TO REMAIN FREE OF ENTANGLEMENTS OVERSEAS. AMERICA FAVORED
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS WHENEVER POSSIBLE, BUT OBJECT
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JURISDICTION ACTION TO VINDICATE ITS PREFERENCES. IN EARLY IN
THE 20TH CENTURY THE ISOLATIONIST POLICY PREVAILED IN AMERICA'S
FOREIGN POLICY. THEN TWO FACTORS PROJECTED AMERICA ON TO THE
WORLD STAGE INTO WORLD AFFAIRS. ONE, ITS RAPIDLY EXPANDING
POWER AND THE GRADUAL COLLAPSE OF THE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM
CENTERED ON EUROPE. WOODROW WILSON TOOK THIS INCREASED AMERICAN
POWER AND THE SHATTERED EUROPEAN ORDER ADDED TO IT THE
TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VIEW OF OUR EXCEPTIONAL ROLE IN THE WORLD
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AND DEVELOPED WHAT HAS BECOME THE DOMINANT APPROACH OF MODERN
AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY-MAKING. AS HE SAID IN 1915 -- PRESIDENT
WILSON -- "WE INSIST UPON SECURITY IN PROSECUTING OURSELVES
CHOSEN LINES OF NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. WE DO MORE THAN THAT. WE
DEMANDED ALSO FOR OTHERS. WE DO NOT CONFINE OUR ENTHUSIASM FOR
INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE
INCIDENTS AND MOVEMENTS OF AFFAIRS WHICH AFFECT ONLY OURSELVES.
WE FEEL IT WHEREVER THERE IS A PEOPLE THAT TRIES TO WALK IN
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THESE DIFFICULT PATHS OF INDEPENDENCE AND RIGHT." SO FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY THE NOTION THAT IT WAS OUR RIGHT
AND OUR DUTY TO -- QUOTE -- "DESTROY MONSTERS" WHEREVER THEY
MIGHT BE, WHEREVER THAT MIGHT ARISE WAS ESTABLISHED. WHILE THE
DETAILS OF CHANGE -- WHILE THE DETAILS HAVE CHANGED FROM TIME
TO TIME WITH SOME VARIATION IN THE DEGREE OF ENTHUSIASM FOR
FOREIGN INTERVENTIONS, THIS IS STILL TODAY THE FOUNDATION IN
DEFINING OUR ROLE IN THE WORLD. IT WAS ELABORATED SOMEWHAT IN
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THE FAMOUS 1947 FOREIGN AFFAIRS ARTICLE PENNED BY "X" LATER
DISCLOSED TO BE GEORGE KEENAN, WHICH GUIDED OUR ULTIMATELY
SUCCESSFUL CON DUCTL OF THE COLD WAR BY URGING -- QUOTE -- "A
POLICY OF FIRM CONTAINMENT DESIGNED TO CONFRONT THE RUSSIANS
WITH UNALTERABLE COUNTERFORCE AT EVERY POINT WHERE THEY SHOW
SIGNS OF ENCROACHING UPON THE INTEREST OF A PEACEFUL AND ABLE
WORLD." TO BE SURE, THERE IS RARELY BEEN A TIME IN AMERICAN
HISTORY WHEN ALL VOICES HAVE BEEN UNITED BEHIND THE DOMINANT
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APPROACH TO THE U.S. ROLE. MANY IN THIS BODY, INCLUDING MYSELF,
PARTICIPATEED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IN THE NATIONAL TURMOIL
OVER THE APPLICATION OF THE CONTAINMENT POLICY. IN SOUTHEAST
ASIA, IN A PLACE CALLED VIETNAM. BUT WHILE THERE WAS VIGOROUS
DEBATE ON THE ADVISABILITY OF SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATIONS OF
WILSONAN IDEALISM THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CHALLENGE SINCE THE
SECOND WORLD WAR TO WHAT MIGHT BE CALMED INTERNATIONALIST
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INTERVENTIONIST MODEL. YET, AS WE BEGIN THE YEAR 2000 IN THIS
NEW CENTURY, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND SIGNIFICANT -- IN
SIGNIFICANT WAYS FROM THE ONE WE HAVE KNOWN SINCE WORLD WAR II.
THE SOVIET UNION IS NO MORE. THE COMMUNISTS DID NOT IN THE END
BURY US. BUT WITH A FEW NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS, CHINA, CUBA,
VIETNAM, NORTH KOREA, IT IS THEY WHO HAVE BEEN BURIED BY
HISTORICAL INEVITABILITY. AGAIN TO QUOTE DR. KISSINGER, "THE
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END OF THE COLD WAR PRODUCED AN ENGREATER TEMPTATION TO RECAST
THE INTERNATIONAL ENVIRONMENT IN AMERICA'S IMAGE. WILSON HAD
BEEN CONSTRAINED BY ISOLATIONISM AT HOME, AND TRUMAN HAD COME
UP AGAINST STALINIST EXPANSIONISM. IN THE POST-COLD WAR WORLD
THE UNITED STATES IS THE ONLY REMAINING SUPERPOWER WITH THE
CAPACITY TO INTERVENE IN EVERY PART OF THE GLOBE. YET, POWER
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HAS BECOME MORE DIFFUSE," DR. KISSINGER SAYS, " "AND THE ISSUES
TO WHICH MILITARY FORCE IS RELEVANT HAVE DIMINISHED. VICTORY IN
THE COLD WAR HAS PROPELLED AMERICA INTO A WORLD WHICH BEARS
MANY SIMILARITIES TO THE ROPEAN STATE SYSTEM OF THE 18TH AND
19TH CENTURIES AND TO PRACTICES WHICH AMERICAN STATESMEN AND
THINKERS HAVE CONSISTENTLY QUESTIONED. THE ABSENCE OF BOTH AN
OVERRIDING IDENTIFY LOGICAL OR STRATEGIC THREAT FREES NATIONS
TO PUR SIGH FOREIGN POLICIES BASED INCREASINGLY ON THEIR
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IMMEDIATE NATIONAL INTEREST." AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING
TO ARTICULATE IN THIS DEBATE. WHAT IS THE AMERICAN INTEREST?
JUST AS THE VERY DIFFERENT INTERNATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS FACING
AMERICA AT THE START OF THE 20TH CENTURY WERE THERE WITH
GROWING AMERICAN STRENGTH ACCOMPANYING THE COLLAPSE OF THE
EUROPEAN ORDER, THAT OCCASIONED THE NEED FOR A FUNDAMENTAL
REASSESSMENT OF THE U.S. PLACE IN THE WORLD. SO AT THE END OF
THE 20TH CENTURY, WITH AN END TO THE BIPOLAR COLD WAR AND THE
EMERGENCE OF MULTIPLE IF NOT YET SUPER, AT LEAST MAJOR POWERS,
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THIS NECESSITATES ANOTHER THOROUGH GOING REVIEW AND EVALUATION
OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE SHOULD BE HEADED. IF ONE HAS BEEN
READING THE FOREIGN POLICY JOURNALS AND WHITE PAPERS DURING THE
LAST FEW YEARS, ONE FINDS A VIGOROUS AND THOUGHTFUL DEBATE
UNDERWAY ON JUST SUCH QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO TAKE JUST A FEW
MINUTES TO PROVIDE THE SENATE WITH A SMALL BIT OF THE FLAVOR OF
THIS DIALOGUE AMONG AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY COMMENTATORS. IN
1995 AN ARTICLE IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS MAG SDIN BY RICHARD HAUST OF
THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION PROVIDED I THINK A USEFUL START G#
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POINT FOR OUR CONSIDERATION BY SEPARATING THE DEBATE ON
AMERICA'S GLOBAL ROLE IO TWO PARTS. THE PRIORITIES OR ENDS OF
AMERICAN POLICY OR AND APPROACHES AVAILABLE TO ACHIEVE THOSE
ENDS. AS POSSIBLE PRIORITIES, HE LISTS WILSONAN IDEALISM WITH
HIS EMPHASIS ON PROMOTION OF DEMOCRATIC VALUES. CON --
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ENONUMUNISM AS THE NAME SUGGESTS. REALISM AS SOVEN ASSOCIATED
WITH BALANCE OF POWER AND INTERNATIONAL EQUILIBRIUM AND
HUMANITARIAN WHICH FOCUSES ON ALLEVIATING THE PLIGHT OF
INDIVIDUALS AND MINIMALISM WHICH COULD BE THOUGHT OF AS
NEO-ISOLATIONISM BUT ACCEPTS THE NEED FOR LIMITED U.S.
ENGAGEMENT IN GLOBAL AFFAIRS. ON THE SIDES OF MEANS, HAUST
LISTS UNILATERALISM WITH THE LARGELY UNFETTERED FREEDOM OF
ACTION IN PURSUIT OF ITS GOALS. NEO-INTERNATIONALISM OR
ASSERTIVE MULTILATERALISM WHICH ALLOWS MULTILATERAL
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ORGANIZATIONS AND APPROACHES TO INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM SOLVING
AND REGIONALISM WHICH HE DEFINES AS U.S. LEADERSHIP WITHIN
ALLIANCES AND COALITIONS. WRITING IN THE SPRING 1996 ISSUE OF
STRATEGIC REVIEW NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL PROFESSOR OF
SECURITY AFFAIRS EDWARD OLSON PRESENTED A VIEW WHICH MIGHT BE
TERMED AS MINIMALISM WHEN HE ADVOCATED RETURN TO OUR PREWORLD
WAR II APPROACH WHICH HE CHARACTERIZED AS ONE OF ABSTENTION,
BENIGN NEGLECT AND NONINTERVENTIONISM WITHIN A POLICY OF HIGHLY
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SELECTIVE ENGAGEMENT. PROFESSOR OLSON DISTINGUISHED HIS
PROPOSED POLICY OF DISENGAGEMENT AND NONINTERVENTION WHICH
WOULD BE MARKED BY LESS MILITARY INTERVENTION, LESS FOREIGN AID
AND FEWER INTERNATIONAL ENTANGLEMENTS. HE DISTINGUISHED THAT
FROM ISOLATIONISM BECAUSE HIS APPROACH WOULD ALLOW THE U.S.
STRATEGIC INDEPENDENCE TO DETERMINE FOR ITSELF INDEPENDENT OF
OTHER COUNTRIES OR MULTILATERAL ORGANIZATIONS WHEN AND HOW TO
ENGAGE ABROAD. WELL, DIRECTLY OPPOSITE TO THAT AND THAT
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WILSONIAN IDEALISM AND A LARGELY UNILATERAL -- IS A WILSONIAN
IDEALISM STRATEGY EMPLOYING A LARGELY UNILATERAL APPROACH.
ARTICLE BY WILLIAM CRYSTAL AND ROBERT KAGAN USED A SUMMER 1996
EDITION OF "FOREIGN AFFAIRS" TO ARGUE FOR A U.S. ROLE OF
BENEVOLENT GLOBAL HEGEMONY IN SAYING AMERICAN PRINCIPLES AROUND
THE WORLD CAN BE SUSTAINED ONLY BILL CONTINUING EXERTION OF
AMERICAN INFLUENCE INCLUDING FOREIGN AID AND WHEN NECESSARY
MILITARY INTERVENTION. THERE IS ANOTHER VIEW. IN HIS 1994 BOOK
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ENTITLED "DIPLOMACY," HENRY KISSINGER PROVIDES A CONTEMPORARY
UPDATED VERSION OF THE REALIST BALANCE OF POWER VIEW. AMERICA'S
DOMINANT TASK IS TO STRIKE A BALANCE, HE SAYS, BETWEEN THE TWIN
MPTATIONS INHERENT IN ITS EXCEPTIONALISM, THE NOTION THAT
AMERICA MUST REMEDY EVERY WRONG AND STABLIZE EVERY DISLOCATION
AND THE LATENT INSTINCT WITHDRAWN INTO ITSELF, A COUNTRY WITH
AMERICA'S IDEALISTIC TRADITION CANNOT BASE ITS POLICY ON THE
BALANCE OF POWER AS THE SOLE CRITERION FOR A NEW WORLD ORDER,
BUT IT MUST LEARN THAT EQUILIBRIUM IS A FUNDAMENTAL
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PRECONDITION FOR THE PURSUIT OF ITS HISTORIC GOALS." A QUOTE
THAT COMES TO MIND TO ME IS A QUOTE BY PRESIDENT KENNEDY THAT
AMERICA -- THAT THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY AN AMERICAN SOLUTION
FOR EVERY PROBLEM IN THE WORLD. AND I THINK THAT IS A REALISTIC
VIEW. FORMER CONGRESSMAN STEVEN SEW LARS ESPOUSED THE
HUMANITARIANISM GOAL. IN THE WINTER 2000 EDITION OF "BLUE
PRINT" MAGAZINE. SOME HE SAID OF COURSE WILL OBJECT TO
HUMANITARIAN INTERVENTION AS A VIOLATION OF THE PRINCIPLE OF
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SOVEREIGNTY WHICH PRECLUDES MILITARY INTERFERENCE. YET IT'S
CLEAR TODAY THAT THE NONINTERFERENCE DOCTRINE NO LONGER TRUMPS
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. HE SAID THIS WAS OBVIOUS WHEN THE U.N.
SANCTIONED INTERVENTIONS DURING THE 1990'S IN NORTHERN IRAQ,
SOMALIA AND HAITI WHERE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY OR GENOCIDE ARE
INVOLVED THE DOCTRINE OF HUMANITARIAN INTERVENTION IS ACCEPTED
AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR VIOLATING THE OTHERWISE INVOLUBLE
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BORDERS OF THE SOVEREIGN STATE. A VARIANT IS CONTAINED IN
HUNTINGTON'S WORK, "THE CLASH
OF CIVILIZATION: REMARKING THE WORLD ORDER." IN THE AFTERMATH,
HE SAYS, OF THE COLD WAR, THE UNITED STATES BECAME CONSUMED
WITH MASSIVE DEBATES OVER THE PROPER COURSE OF AMERICAN FOREIGN
POLICY. IN THIS ERA, HOWEVER, THE U.S. CAN NEITHER DOMINATE NOR
ESCAPE THE WORLD. NEITHER INTERNATIONALISM NOR ISOLATIONISM,
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NEITHER MULTILATERALISM NOR UNILATERALISM WOULD BEST SERVE ITS
INTEREST. THOSE WILL BESS BE ADVANCED BY ESCHEWING THESE
STREAMS AND INSTEAD GETTING IN CLOSE COOPERATION WITH ITS
EUROPEAN PARTNERS TO PROTECT THE VALUES OF THE UNIQUE
CIVILIZATION THEY SHARE. THESE ARE JUST A FEW, MR. PRESIDENT,
OF THE MANY THINK PIECES WHICH HAVE BEEN COMING OUT OF THE
AMERICAN FOREIGN COMMUNITY SINCE THE END OF THE COLD WAR OVER
THE LAST NINE OR TEN YEARS. EVEN THIS BRIEF GLIMPSE PROVIDES A
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WIDE DIVERGENCE IN EXPERT OPINIONS ON THE PREFERRED PRIORITIES
AND APPROACHES FOR POST-COLD WAR U.S. GLOBAL ENGAGEMENT. TO
FURTHER EVALUATE THE KUFRNT DEBATE AMONG INDIVIDUALS WITH
STRONGLY HEAD VIEWS ON WHERE WE SHOULD BE HEADED I ASKED THE
OUTSTANDING CONGRESSIONAL RESEARCH SERVICE TO PROVIDE ME WITH A
REVIEW OF THE LITERATURE ON U.S. GLOBAL ROLE OPTIONS. AND I ASK
NOW ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THIS C.R.S. DOCUMENT BE ENTERED
-- INSERTED AT THIS POINT INTO THE RECORD.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
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MR. CLELAND: JAMES LINDSEY OF THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION, I
THINK, WELL SUMMED UP WHERE WE IN CONGRESS ARE TODAY IN THIS
GREAT DEBATE ON AMERICA'S PROPER ROLE IN THE WORLD IN THE
WINTER 2000 BROOKINGS REVIEW WHERE HE WROTE "MUCH LIKE FRIENDS
WHO AGREE TO DIE BUT CAN'T AGREE ON A RESTAURANT, FOREIGN
POLICY ELITES AGREE THAT THE UNITED STATES SHOULD DO SOMETHING,
JUST NOT WHAT. CONGRESS NATURALLY REFLECTS THIS, WHICH MAKES IT
DIFFICULT FOR THE INSTITUTION TO FUNCTION. DIVIDED BY CHAMBER,
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PARTY, IDEOLOGY, REGION, COMMITTEE AND GENERATION, CONGRESS
LISTS TOWARDS PARALYSIS WHENEVER A MODICUM OF AGREEMENT AND A
SENSE OF PROPORTION ARE ABSENT." MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS EXACTLY
WHAT THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM KANSAS AND I ARE TRYING TO
PROGRAM INTO THIS DISCUSSION. WE ARE TRYING TO PROGRAM A
MODICUM OF AGREEMENT AND A SENSE OF PROPORTION. IN A NUTSHELL,
ATTEMPTING TO OVERCOME THIS DICENSUS AND PARALYSIS. I'D LIKE AT
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THIS POINT TO YIELD AGAIN TO THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM
KANSAS FOR HIS ADDITIONAL REMARKS. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
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MR. ROBERTS: I THANK THE SENATOR FOR YIELDING. MR. PRESIDENT,
SENATOR CLELAND HAS VERY EFFECTIVELY OUTLINED THE EVOLUTION OF
OUR NATION'S FOREIGN POLICY FROM WASHINGTON AND ADAMS, WHO WERE
BOTH VERY CHERRY AT FOREIGN INVOLVEMENT AND ALLIANCES TO THE
MONROE DOCTRINE TO THE IDEALISM OF WOODROW WILSON AND ALL OF
THE SO-CALLED "ISMS." WE HAVE REALISM, HUMANITARIAN, ECONISM,
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REGIONALISM, ISOLATIONISM WITH INTERVENTION AND NONINTERVENTION
THAT ARE TOWSED IN. I WOULD SAY TO MY DEAR FRIEND AND
COLLEAGUE, THAT IS QUITE A FOREIGN POLICY TOSSED SALAD. BUT THE
POINT IS THE DISCUSSION AND DEFINITION MUST PREFACE CLARITY,
PURPOSE AND CONSENSUS. AND THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM
GEORGIA HAS DONE JUST THAT THAT, AND I WILL PREDICT -- AS A
MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE SNEAKED A LOOK AT HIS CONCLUSION, AND HE
HAS COME UP WITH A NEW CONCEPT,
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