The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Bishop of Utah). Under the Speaker's
announced policy of January 7, 2003, the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr.
Hoeffel) is recognized for half the remaining time, approximately 27 minutes,
as the designee of the minority leader.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, I am glad to be back on the
House floor with my colleagues, the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt)
and the gentleman from Hawaii (Mr. Abercrombie), and I think others will
join us, for another installment of Iraq Watch. We have been coming to the
floor one evening a week since, I believe, last May to talk about our policies
in Iraq, to raise questions about the policies when we do not understand
those policies, to suggest alternatives, to try to get information before
the Members of the Congress and the members of the general public about what
is happening in Iraq.
Before turning to my colleagues for this week's installment
of Iraq Watch, let me review a little bit what has been happening, and the
last few weeks have been tough weeks for President Bush regarding his policies
in Iraq. We know that the chief CIA weapons inspector, Dr. David Kay, returned
from Iraq and said that stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction do not
exist. He could not find weapons of mass destruction themselves. He doubts
that such stockpiles existed before we went to war. He doubts they existed
in 2002 or 2003. This, of course, is completely contrary to the White House
assertions in the fall of 2002 and in the spring of 2003 that these weapons
of mass destruction existed.
The President continued to advocate his case and, in my judgment,
hype the situation regarding weapons of mass destruction in the State of
the Union Address where he talked about weapons of mass destruction-related
program activities. I am still trying to figure out exactly what is a weapons
of mass destruction-related program activity, but I can tell my colleagues
what it is not. It is not a weapon of mass destruction, because we have not
found those in Iraq, according to our chief CIA weapons inspector David Kay.
Then, in his Face The Nation interview recently, the President
talked about Dr. Kay's report and said that Dr. Kay came home and, number
1, made an interim report and, number 2, suggested that things were worse
in Iraq than we thought.
Well, in fact, may I say to my colleagues, Dr. Kay came back
from Iraq not to make an interim report, but to quit. He said he has had
enough. He is frustrated. He says he is not getting the support that he thinks
the Iraq Study Group should get in order to focus on the search for weapons
of mass destruction. He believes those weapons do not exist. And far from
saying things were worse over there than he thought, he said we could not
find the things that we were told we would find.
Then, the President finally appointed a commission to study
the intelligence regarding Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction. And
I am glad that he appointed such a commission, but he made two big mistakes,
in my judgment. One, he limited the time, or maybe I should say he expanded
the time so that the Commission will not complete its work until well after
this fall's election. Secondly, he limited the scope of the Commission. He
asked them to look into the accuracy of the intelligence gathering. And I
agree that accuracy must be reviewed, but he did not ask the Commission to
review the use of that intelligence by the White House itself.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Will the gentleman yield on that point?
Mr. HOEFFEL. I am delighted to yield to the gentleman from
Hawaii.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding. On that exact point, if we were just reciting a litany of errors
made in the sense of an honest misreading after a genuine inquiry, that would
be one thing, but the really shocking evidence to the contrary is now coming
out. In fact, we even see reports about where was the press? Why was this
taking place? And it turns out the source for much of this information, not
just for those in the intelligence agencies, but from those reporting on
it, was coming from the same sources.
The general public listening to us might say, well, that is
all well and good for you folks in the Congress to be mentioning these things
now, to be commenting on it now, but we had no access to that. We were not
privy to that kind of inquiry on the basis of a position in the Congress
where we could actually ask in depth in closed briefings and hearings as
to what the source of this information was. Yet we find now in the Washington
Post just 2 days ago a report taken from the London Telegraph on commentary
from Ahmad Chalabi. That name has been on this floor previously. The gentleman
from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt) has examined Mr. Chalabi's career in detail.
The gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel), I believe, has done the same.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, if I may interrupt the gentleman
for a moment, I am proud of the fact that last April in one of our very first
Iraq Watches, I identified Mr. Chalabi in the words that my grandfather would
have used as a four flusher. I have to explain what a four flusher is. A
four flusher is a man whose word you cannot accept, and if it was good enough
for my grandfather, it is good enough for me.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, let me explain what Mr. Chalabi
admitted to. He is now on the Governing Council. This is the body upon which
the United States is presently relying. This is the body upon which the United
States is presently conducting policy in terms of their being able to take
over on June 30, this arbitrary date that has been set by the Bush administration.
He now lays claim to the following. He was accused of peddling
phony tips about Iraq's weapons, the very thing that the gentleman from Pennsylvania
(Mr. Hoeffel) has been speaking of. Again quoting from the Washington Post,
he shrugged off charges that he had deliberately misled U.S. intelligence,
We are heroes in error.
He told the Telegraph in an interview Wednesday in Baghdad,
As far as we are concerned, we have been entirely successful. Our objective
has been achieved. That tyrant Saddam is gone and the Americans are in Baghdad.
What was said before is not important.
Quoting it now from the Washington Post, not even to the families
of all the killed and wounded?
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman would yield,
not even for the American taxpayers that are putting out some $167 billion
to date. That is absolutely outrageous.
What I learned this evening, and I find it particularly disturbing,
is that Mr. Chalabi was present in this chamber during the State of the Union
that was delivered by President Bush back in January and sat with other members
of the Iraqi Governing Council in the box where the First Lady was sitting.
This is absolutely unacceptable.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, let me repeat then for
those who may be tuning in and trying to get the context here. Let me repeat
exactly what Mr. Chalabi said, our champion in Baghdad, the person upon whom
is the principal resource apparently for the intelligence that was delivered
to the President, delivered to the Congress, and apparently delivered to
reporters who were all supposed to be checking sources.
Part of the thing that we need to remind ourselves and remind
the public of is that we are dependent upon the professional integrity of
journalists as well. We are dependent upon it. We are certainly the object
of it often enough. We are dependent on them checking their sources to make
sure that they are reliable. Let me repeat what he said.
The reason I want to do that is that this is as cynical and
sinister a pronouncement as I have heard in my political lifetime. I am quoting
Mr. Chalabi, as reported in the Washington Post, We are heroes in error.
As far as we are concerned, we have been entirely successful. Our objective
has been achieved. That tyrant Saddam is gone, and the Americans are in Baghdad.
What was said before is not important.
Mr. DELAHUNT. I would just like to, if I may, pick up
on that point with Mr. Chalabi.
The gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel) described Mr.
Chalabi in very unflattering terms, but I think a more apt description of
Mr. Chalabi is that he is a convicted felon. When he fled Iraq he ended up
in London for a period of time and then went ahead and conducted business,
banking business, financial services, in the kingdom of Jordan. There he
was charged with embezzlement and a series of other crimes that would constitute
in our jurisprudence a felony. He was tried and convicted and was sentenced
to 22 years by a Jordanian court. I am sure he would contest that. I am sure
that he would proclaim his innocence, but that is a fact, a reality. That
is not just simply an unflattering description of an individual.
When the king of Jordan came and visited with Members of the
House Committee on International Relations, and I forget if the gentleman
from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel) was there, but I posed to the king, who has
been an erstwhile ally of the United States and his father before him in
the region for decades and has cooperated with the United States in terms
of the war against terrorism, I asked the king if he had been consulted by
the United States Government because I was aware that Mr. Chalabi had been
convicted of a serious crime, an embezzlement of some hundreds of millions
of dollars. He said, with certain equanimity, No, I was not.
I did not pursue it because I did not want to cause the king
any embarrassment, but it was clear to me and others at that meeting that
he clearly was displeased, and to think that we turned our back on an ally,
who according to newspaper reports, and the truth always outs, was encouraging
defectors to provide intelligence that he should have known was false, was
false.
If I can pursue for just one more moment, this is dated February
19 and is from the Daily Telegraph in London, a British newspaper obviously.
U.S. officials said last week that one of the most celebrated pieces of false
intelligence, the claim that Saddam Hussein had a mobile biological weapons
laboratory, had come from a major in the Iraqi intelligence service, made
available by the INC.
Those watching us tonight should understand that the INC is
an anachronism for the Iraqi National Congress which is the creation of Ahmed
Chalabi.
U.S. officials at first found the information credible, and
the defector even passed a lie detector test, but in later interviews it
became apparent he was stretching the truth and had been coached by the INC.
This is a report from a respected British newspaper that segues
exactly the reporting that was done in the Washington Post. This is outrageous
and to think that this gentleman was in this institution while sitting in
the First Lady's box during the State of the Union, meanwhile we had voted,
and many in this chamber on both sides of the aisle had voted a difficult
vote, cast an extremely hard vote in terms of war and peace based upon false
intelligence? Then we are carrying the burden, not just of the war but of
the reconstruction.
We are the only Nation, that I am aware of, that when we appropriated
the moneys for Iraq did not insist that it be paid back at any point in time.
All of the other donors insisted on some sort of a loan arrangement and we
did not, and if we really want to pour salt on the wound, this is from the
Houston Chronicle, and it is dated February 21. The headline is the United
States still paying the source of the tainted intelligence. That is a Knight
Ridder outlet. Indulge me for a moment while I read this to my colleagues.
``The Department of Defense is continuing to pay millions of
dollars for information from the former Iraqi opposition group that produced
some of the exaggerated and fabricated intelligence President Bush used to
argue his case for war.''
We are paying now. Today.
``The Pentagon has set aside between $3 million and $4 million
this year for the information collection program of the Iraqi National Congress
led by Ahmed Chalabi, said two senior U.S. officials and a U.S. defense official.
They spoke on condition of anonymity because intelligence programs are classified.''
Mr. HOEFFEL. If the gentleman will yield, as bad as the
situation is that the gentleman from Massachusetts has just described, it
could be even worse, the impact of this faulty intelligence on this country.
Think back on the military strategy that our Armed Forces used. We all understand
that our Armed Forces fought bravely, with great courage. But remember that
they rushed to Baghdad because they believed that weapons of mass destruction
were there, in large measure because of the representations made by Chalabi
and others, and the very false and misleading information that the gentleman
from Massachusetts has identified tonight.
Our troops did not protect their flanks. They figured the most
important thing they had to do was get to Baghdad and stop any potential
use of these weapons of mass destruction against the American troops or the
British troops or against the Iraqi citizens; that the key was to get there
as quickly as possible. And in that rush, which they successfully did, very
bravely and courageously, they left their flanks exposed. The insurgency
started, and we began to lose soldiers right away because they were not taking
their time, they were not protecting themselves. They thought they had to
rush in.
I think you can put onto the heads of these folks that gave
us bad information the loss of life, the loss of American life by our brave
soldiers whose leaders thought they had to adopt one strategy based upon
incorrect information, when it would have been a little safer for our troops
to protect the flanks, move more carefully and cautiously, which I am sure
they would have done if they were not worried about these weapons of mass
destruction that did not exist.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will continue
to yield, the question now then becomes, unless I missed something, this
Chalabi is a hired gun. This Chalabi is a creature of the administration.
He has no executive authority here. He has no voting power. He does not make
recommendations to the President of the United States as an adviser, other
than as a hired hand. Where was the verification? This man has a vested interest
in getting this country into war in Iraq.
What bothers me, what distresses me is that what he was saying
fits very conveniently into the ideology and the philosophy and the foreign
policy desires of some of the people who have been most adamant in advocating
war with Iraq before the weapons of mass destruction principle was laid down
as the foundation for war with Iraq.
It is not as if it is a conspiracy. It is not as if it is a
hidden plot. It is not as if it is some diabolical machination taking place
in secret. Matter of fact, we have had dialogue. I have had dialogue and
discussion personally with those who advocated this, like Mr. Perle, Mr.
Kristol, Mr. Boot, Mr. Woolsey, who himself was head of the CIA. They published
their articles. They have their books written. They have had this position
for some time.
So it is not as if this is something that I have suddenly discovered
or others have suddenly discovered and now are shocked. I am not. What shocks
me is that people would take ostensible information or intelligence and assume
it to be true without checking it out thoroughly, precisely because it fit
what they would like it to be.
I know when somebody is telling me something I want to hear,
something I would like to be true, something I hope is going to take place,
I know that a little bell goes off, a little tremor takes place in me saying,
wait a minute, let us make sure that I am not being told something because
I want to hear it, because I would like to believe it, because I want it
to be so, particularly when the consequences are going to be those of life
and death.
When you are making a recommendation and have the authority,
particularly as President of the United States, as the Commander in Chief,
have the capacity and the authority to act on that recommendation and to
make it in turn to the people of this country, then it is incumbent upon
you, more than perhaps any other person in this Nation, to be absolutely
sure you know what you are talking about, what your sources are and how reliable
they are, not just because someone has told you what you want to hear, but
because you know it to be factual and the implications to be clear in terms
of war and peace.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, I know the gentleman has heard
the term before, but when we speak of a blind man in a room with deaf mutes,
this is an apt description of absolutely what has occurred in this particular
case involving this particular individual by the name of Chalabi, Ahmed Chalabi,
a convicted felon.
But let me give another possible motive. And again, this is
simply a news story that I am reading to my colleagues and to those that
are watching here this evening, because I think it is very important that
the American people start to understand the dimensions and the magnitude
of what occurred here and the absolute need for a thorough transparent presentation
of all the facts over an extended period of time to the American people.
This is not about politics. No, it is not. This is about the
national security of the United States and how we are viewed by the rest
of the world. Our credibility is at risk here. If we perceive another situation
that is fraught with peril for our people, and we present intelligence to
the rest of the world, who is going to believe us?
Let me suggest another motive. This is from Newsday, a New York
paper, and it is dated February 15. ``U.S. authorities in Iraq have awarded
more than $400 million in contracts to a start-up company that has extensive
family and, according to court documents, business ties with Ahmed Chalabi,
the Pentagon favorite on the Iraqi Governing Council. The chief architect
of the umbrella organization of the resistance, the Iraqi National Congress,
Chalabi is viewed by many Iraqis as the hand-picked choice to rule Iraq.''
What a disaster that would be. And while we know there are very
sensitive negotiations and discussions going on currently between elements
in Iraq and between the United Nations, clearly Secretary General Kofi Annan
has sent a special representative. He is in the process of reviewing it to
make recommendations as to how power is transitioned to the Iraqi people.
Yet here we are discussing on the floor of the House tonight the potential
of having this particular individual as the hand-picked representative of
American interests assuming a role in a future Iraqi Government that clearly,
clearly most in the region, my earlier reference to my conversation with
King Hussein from Jordan, will find particularly offensive. Clearly there
is no support from the Iraqi people.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, if I may ask the gentleman
from Massachusetts, who did the hand picking? Who did the hand picking? He
did not pick himself. Is there someone in the administration, are there a
group of people in the administration?
Mr. DELAHUNT. Of course there are people in the
administration.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Perhaps the gentleman can enlighten me
by answering that question.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Let me read from the original story that I
discussed; we are still paying for the tainted intelligence. The American
taxpayers are going to foot the bill for Ahmed Chalabi to come to the United
States and sit in the First Lady's box. Let me read this: ``The decision
not to shut off funding for the information-gathering effort could become
another liability for Bush as the Presidential campaign heats up, and suggests
that some within the administration are intent on securing a key role for
Chalabi in Iraq's political future.'' Chalabi, who built close ties to officials
in Vice President Cheney's office, and among top Pentagon officials, is on
the Iraqi Governing Council, a body of 25 Iraqis installed by the United
States, to help administer the country following the ouster of Saddam Hussein
in April.
So here we are. We received false information, as the gentleman
indicated in response to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel) yielding.
He said the Americans are in Baghdad, we got what we want, and he is continuing
to get paid. And according to reports from British newspapers, business associates
of his just secured more than $400 million of American taxpayer resources
for contracts awarded by the CPA, by Paul Bremer.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I have never seen a picture
or any film of Mr. Chalabi when he was not smiling and when he did not have
the smuggest look on his face and when he did not have the demeanor of someone
who had pulled off a coup, when he did not have a patronizing attitude towards
those doing the interview. I can understand why. He has played us for saps
and suckers, and the result is we have dead and wounded, grievously wounded.
The result is the sacking of the Treasury of the United States, and the result
is that we have had people whose ideological bent in the administration was
such that they wanted to go to war using each other, Chalabi using them,
them using Chalabi, in the most cynical fashion, the result of which we now
see before us.
He said, and I remind Members and those listening to us, what
was said before is not important. That which became the justification for
what we did is not important. He got what he wanted. Those who wanted to
have war with Iraq got what they wanted. They are not paying the price. They
are not the ones who have to suffer for the rest of their lives either by
having grievous wounds or by having the irretrievable loss of someone that
they love as a result of this.
The question for us and the question that we have to ask not
just ourselves but the American people are going to have to ask, is, is this
going to be allowed? Is this going to be something that we are going to pass
off? The fact that the Newsweek cover that the gentleman from Massachusetts
(Mr. Delahunt) referred to in his remarks just previously could have a headline,
``How Dick Cheney Sold the War,'' the crass indifference of a headline like
that in terms of its implications, as if you sell a war, not that you are
driven into it, not that necessity forced you to come to that sorry and reluctant
conclusion, but rather how you sold the war.
Nothing, I think, could be a commentary more persuasive to me
of how this has been manipulated, how this has been maneuvered in a way that
discredits this administration, discredits Mr. Cheney in that role. He has
yet to come to grips with it, and the White House and the administration
as a whole has yet to come to grips with it, because if my information is
correct and the information given to The Washington Post is correct, and
this is something that one would have the opportunity to see whether it is
correct unless it has changed since its publication on February 22 was that
the Web site for the White House, the White House official Web site cites
the same false information today. It has not changed since March. I quote
from the Web site of the White House as of February 22: ``The United Nations
and U.S. intelligence sources have known for some time that Saddam Hussein
has materials to produce chemical and biological weapons, but has not accounted
for them: 26,000 liters of anthrax, enough to kill several million people;
38,000 liters of botulism toxin; 500 tons of sarin mustard and VX nerve agents;
and 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents.'' And finally:
``He recently sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa, according
to the British Government.''
These are the same lies and the same fabrications, the same
prevarications, the same falsehoods, the same misleading directions that
took us into this war and continue to be repeated in the face of the knowledge
that we know them not to be true.
How could it be that these continue to be repeated? Is it any
wonder that Mr. Chalabi laughs at us? Is it any wonder that he adopts a smug
disposition when we continue to support him, we continue to pay him, we continue
to support the policies that he espoused, and he is able to say what was
said before is not important because obviously there are no penalties attached
to it?
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, we have talked quite a bit tonight
about Ahmed Chalabi, and rightly so; but he is not apparently the only favorite
of the American government involved in positioning themselves for leadership
in Iraq.
In today's Roll Call, one of the Hill newspapers, a fascinating
front-page story titled ``Iraqi Money Flows'' detailing how four different
Iraqis seeking power in Iraq are paying over $100,000 a month for lobbying
costs and public relations costs here in the U.S. capital. It is a million-dollar-plus
annual industry.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, where does the money come
from?
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, I do not have a clue. Ahmed
Chalabi and three others listed in the article are paying up to a combined
$100,000 a month.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, if Mr. Chalabi and his
cohorts are paying this kind of money, what is the principal source of income
that we have already enunciated for Mr. Chalabi and his friends?
Mr. HOEFFEL. The principal source I know of is U.S. Government.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. In other words, the U.S. taxpayers are
paying this guy to in turn pay lobbyists in Washington to advocate his position
and influence Members of Congress.
Mr. DELAHUNT. To influence Members of Congress and influence
the administration.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Before we get too carried away
with Chalabi, let me just make the point that is in the Roll Call article.
There were three others doing this. One of them is the favorite of the CIA
to be the new Iraqi leader and a third the favorite of the State Department
to be the new Iraqi leader. The gentleman from Massachusetts is right, the
Defense Department has long wanted Chalabi to be the new leader of the Iraqi
Government.
Mr. DELAHUNT. The convicted felon.
Mr. HOEFFEL. The favorite of the State Department
is Adnan Pachachi, who is another member of the current interim government
in Iraq as Chalabi is. And, according to Roll Call, the favorite of the CIA
is Ayad Allawi, also a member of the Iraqi Governing Council.
We have got a three-headed monster here. The administration
itself cannot agree on who should be the next leader of the Iraqi Government.
There are three different agencies pushing three different people.
Mr. DELAHUNT. We would hope that that would be
the Iraqi people, because if we preach democracy, hopefully we will abide
by the decision that the Iraqi people in an election reach on their own.
That is a message that I think, and I think we speak for many Members on
both sides of the aisle here, that yes, the absolute sine qua non, the essential
ingredient to a democracy is to give voice to all of the people, not some
selected individuals hand-picked by DICK CHENEY, by the CIA, or by anybody
else to run the country for the Iraqis, because if that happens, the American
taxpayer is going to end up with a much larger bill than we have already
assumed.
Mr. HOEFFEL. The gentleman from Massachusetts is
making a lot of sense here, but the situation is made that much worse by
the fact we are not just trying to hand-pick the next leader from Washington,
but the Bush administration has three different favorites, one from the Defense
Department, one from the State Department, one from the CIA.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. If the gentleman will yield, not having
seen the article, does the article go on to elucidate for us who these individuals
are who are doing the lobbying? Are there firms here? Are there American
firms who are going to come to Members of Congress and advocate on behalf
of these individuals our appointees?
Mr. HOEFFEL. Yes. All the firms are identified, the monthly
retainers. It is an interesting article. It is a million-dollar industry.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Would the gentleman consider submitting
that article for the RECORD so that those who want to read the article in
the Congressional Record subsequent to our discussion tonight will know all
of the details?
Mr. HOEFFEL. I will be delighted to do it.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I will ask to have the article
that the gentleman from Pennsylvania is referring to entered into the RECORD
as part of our deliberation.
[From Roll Call, Feb. 24, 2004]
Iraqi Money
Flows
(By Brody Mullins)
Several
well-heeled Iraqis who hope to play central roles in Iraq's emerging government
have launched lobbying campaigns in Washington to influence the Bush administration
and Congress as they work to shape a permanent government in Iraq.
The group
of Iraqis, which include three members of the U.S.-created Iraqi Governing
Council, are spending as much as $100,000 per month on lobbying firms and
public relations agents to press U.S. officials to create a modern, democratic
government that is not dominated by Islamic conservatives.
``It's
like they are running for president,'' said one U.S. official of the competing
public relations efforts in Washington.
The three
Iraqis began their public relations efforts in Washington more than a decade
after another Iraqi member of the Iraqi Governing Council--Ahmed Chalabi--began
cultivating close ties to now-Vice President Cheney and other key administration
officials.
According
to forms filed with the Justice Department, Ayad Allawi, a member and former
president of the Iraqi Governing Council, has begun an expensive lobbying
and public relations effort to press U.S. officials to build a modern democratic
government that builds on Iraq's existing foundations.
Allawi
has already paid more than $300,000 to Washington from Preston Gates Ellis
& Rouvelas Meeds LLP to help open doors on Capital Hill and at the White
House.
Allawi
also hired a former U.S. ambassador to coordinate his Washington effort and
a New York advertising firm that once worked for the Beatles to manage his
image in the United States.
The public
relations effort, which could top $1 million this year, is funded by Mashal
Nawab, an Iraqi-born physician who is a ``close friend and admirer'' of Allawi,
according to the Justice Department forms.
Adnan Pachachi,
another member and former president of Iraq's interim government, has also
signed up a Washington public relations firm to help him get his message
across to the Bush administration and Congress.
F. Wallace
Hayes, working on a pro bono basis for now, will write press releases for
the 70-year-old Pachachi that ``promote democracy in Iraq,'' according to
the Justice Department forms.
Meanwhile,
Baqir Jabor, an Iraqi exile appointed by the United States to run Iraq's
housing and construction department, has asked former Rep. Bob Livingston
(R-La.) and his influential Washington lobbying firm to help arrange a series
of meetings with the Bush administration during his upcoming visit to the
United States.
Officials
at Livingston Group said Jabor is not a formal client of the firm. Other
details of Livingston's work with Jabor are not yet available because Jabor
first asked Livingston for help only last month.
The new
public relations campaigns in Washington come as the Bush administration
struggles to complete an interim constitution for Iraq by the end of the
month in order to turn control of the government over to Iraq this year.
In the
past few days, it has become clear that the United States will fail to meet
both deadlines.
Over the
weekend, the Kurds in northern Iraq--which comprise 20 percent of the country--rejected
key parts of the constitution. Meanwhile, Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator
in Iraq, acknowledged last week that it is unlikely that Iraq will be able
to hold an election for at least another year.
By hiring
lobbyists in Washington, the Iraqi leaders hope to one day play a central
role in the emerging government.
The Iraqis
who have hired lobbyists are each former exiles who want the United States
to create a democratically elected government.
Iraq's
Shiites make up as much as 60 percent of the country and are better organized
than their political and ethnic rivals, the Kurds and the Sunnis.
The leader
of Iraq's Shiite conservatives, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, hopes to
schedule quick elections, knowing that he and his allies would dominate the
government if elections are held soon.
Allawi,
Jabor and Pachachi share another rival in Chalabi. But unlike the Iraqi newcomers
to Washington, Chalabi has worked for years in Washington cultivating friendships
with key players like Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle.
Since 1986,
Shea & Gardner has represented Chalabi and his Iraqi National Congress
in Washington for about $10,000 a month. One of the partners at Shea &
Gardner is James Woolsey, the former CIA director.
Chalabi
also gets help from Francis Brooke, a political consultant, and Riva Levinson
of BKSH & Associates, the Washington firm founded by Charles Black, a
long-time ally of President Bush.
Those contacts
have paid off: At this year's State of the Union address, Chalabi sat in
the VIP box with first lady Laura Bush.
Chalabi
also was one of the few Iraqis permitted to meet face to face with Saddam
Hussein in his cell in the hours after his capture in late December.
Chalabi
has long been considered the favorite of Defense Department officials to
lead Iraq's new government.
However,
his star appears to be fading as Pentagon officials question some of the
military intelligence he provided before the war and as Iraqis increasingly
view Chalabi as a pawn for the United States.
Meanwhile,
the State Department is thought to favor Pachachi, while the CIA backs Allawi.
His main opponent in Washington is thought to be Chalabi, a distant relative.
Though
Chalabi and Allawi both oppose an Iraqi government run by Islamics, they
split over the structure of a new secular government.
Chalabi
would like to rid the country of anything to do with Hussein's Baath Party,
while Chalabi--a member of the Baath Party before it was hijacked by Hussein
in the 1970s--believes the new government should be built upon the existing
foundations.
``There
are options available to make use of the civil structures that are available
in Iraq rather than throwing everything out,'' said R. Paul Stimers of Allawi's
lobbying firm, Preston Gates.
Allawi,
a neuroscientist by training, survived a vicious assassination attempt in
the late 1970s when Hussein allies tried to axe him to death in his sleep.
He later became a source of important--and sometimes suspect--intelligence
information to the CIA.
After the
war, he was appointed to the interim Iraqi Governing Council and tapped to
take charge of security for the country.
In Washington,
Allawia and his British benefactor last fall hired Patrick Theros, a former
U.S. ambassador to Qatar, to build his base of support among key Members
of Congress and the Bush administration.
Theros
runs a consulting firm, Theros & Theros, with his wife and son out of
their home in a leafy section of Northwest Washington.
With a
total monthly budget that began at $122,000, Allawi brought on New York public
relations agency Brown Lloyd James Ltd.--a firm that once represented the
Beatles--for $12,500 a month.
For lobbying
work, Allawi tapped Washington lobbying shop Preston Gates for $100,000 a
month, though the firm has since lowered its monthly retainer to less than
$50,000.
According
to contracts filed with the Justice Department, the firms will help Allawi
``gain U.S. government support for his policy suggestions for Iraq'' by ``explain[ing]
his views on the security and political situation in Iraq.''
Theros,
who is making about $10,000 a month from Allawi, plans to attend ``public
forums, seminars, events and meetings which represent an opportunity'' to
express Allawi's ideas.
Allawi's
lobbying effort was expected to end this spring when the United States was
expected to hand control over the government to Iraq.
But with the prospects of meeting that deadline dim, the lobbying
and public relations campaign is expected to continue.
Mr. DELAHUNT. If the gentleman will yield, I think I
can answer his question at least in part here. As the gentleman from Pennsylvania
just indicated, there are rival camps now that presumably the American taxpayer
is supporting in their lobbying efforts in terms of securing more resources
and more tax dollars from Congress and the administration. But it would appear
that Mr. Chalabi has an advantage. According to the Roll Call edition of
today, it reports that unlike the Iraqi newcomers to Washington, Chalabi
has worked for years in Washington cultivating friendships with key players
like CHENEY, like Vice President DICK CHENEY, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard
Perle, all gentlemen that we have heard from during the course of the debate
that many in the majority party have described as so-called neoconservatives.
The Roll Call article goes on to indicate that since 1986, Shea
& Gardner has represented Chalabi and his Iraqi National Congress in
Washington for $10,000 a month. So Mr. Chalabi certainly was an individual
of some affluence. Clearly that was the impression that the Jordanians had
when they convicted him of embezzling some 300 million American dollars from
a significant financial institution in Jordan. But that was $10,000 a month.
For your edification, for those of the viewing audience, they should be aware
that one of the partners at Shea & Gardner is James Woolsey, the former
CIA Director who has been an outspoken advocate for military intervention
in Iraq.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. If the gentleman will yield, I want to
make sure I understood really, because I have had some conversations with
Mr. Woolsey. They were affable. I considered them informative and straightforward.
I just want to make sure. You mean when he was talking to me about these
issues, he was part of a firm that was being paid $10,000 a month by one
of the individuals, by Chalabi himself?
Mr. DELAHUNT. By Chalabi himself.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. That was never revealed to me. I must
say, and I want it on the record, that I resent that. If I knew that at least,
that is okay. I am an adult. I am perfectly capable of differentiating between
someone's sincerely held views and business associations they might have.
If somebody represents to me that, look, I just want to tell you that we
have a business relationship with this person, but I hope you will grant
me that I am speaking to you, giving you my best and sincerest personal judgment
regardless of my connection, I can accept that, and I would have, surely,
because I like to think that I am a person, I hope, of some integrity, and
I would do the same. If I have strong views about something, I will certainly
tell people the whys and wherefores of it. But as a Member of Congress and
having had conversations with Mr. Woolsey concerning some of these issues,
not to have that kind of information, I think, is a subterfuge.
I am sorry to say it. It pains me. It pains me to say that.
What you just said to me is, in fact, shocking. If people want to be cynical
about it or think that I am just making some rhetorical flourish, they can
think so, but it is not. I do not conduct my affairs that way. I do not deal
with other people that way. I feel personally offended, to tell you the truth,
that such a thing could take place. I had no idea that there was that kind
of relationship, because I think that might have colored what was said to
me.
Mr. DELAHUNT. I would hope, and yet it would appear to
be a remote possibility, given all that we know, that Mr. Woolsey was unaware
of the representation possibly by another partner.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. If the gentleman will yield further,
Mr. Woolsey has appeared on television numerous times as a commentator. He
has been introduced as the former head of the CIA. I have seen him often
making commentary and being asked for his perspective, and never once have
I heard on any of those television shows, never once, unless I missed it,
maybe I tuned in in the middle, maybe there is something that I missed, but
I do not believe ever once on any of those shows that any of those hosts
ever indicated that he is being paid by a member of the Governing Council,
or that his firm is being paid by a member of the Governing Council, and
that therefore, at the very least, on the basis of full disclosure that we
should know that so that you can take that into account if you think that
is pertinent with respect to what he is saying.
I wonder if the hosts of some of these television shows and
radio shows and even those newspaper columnists who are quoting Mr. Woolsey
are aware or whether they have made the inquiry as to whether or not such
a situation exists. What bothers me as a Member of Congress, does this mean
that I have to ask every single person that speaks to me, every single person
with whom I have a conversation for a list of particulars as to what their
associations are before I engage in a conversation or can expect on my part
to receive information that is the best judgment of this person rather than
the paid retorts and paid-for positions of someone who is in the hire of
somebody else?
Mr. DELAHUNT. I share your disappointment. I really do.
I find it so incredulous that I will presume that there is some responsible
answer why that disclosure was never made.
Maybe this is a question of inaccurate reporting, but this is
what appeared today in the Roll Call magazine that is distributed throughout
the Capitol building.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman
would yield again to me, the newspaper article, again, I am presuming that
it is accurate. Does it indicate that this is a current relationship?
Mr. DELAHUNT. Let me read it again, and let me go on because
there is more information.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I realize I am taking time
up here, but I am genuinely upset and shocked by this because I feel personally
used. I mean, some of these conversations took place on official trips of
the United States Government.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Again, I am reading for the gentleman's benefit
and for those who are viewing our conversation here this evening: ``Since
1986 Shea & Gardner has represented Chalabi and his Iraqi National Congress
in Washington for about $10,000 a month. One of the partners at Shea &
Gardner is James Woolsey, the former CIA director.
``Chalabi also gets help from Francis Brooke, a political consultant,
and Riva Levinson, the Washington firm founded by Charles Black, a long-time
ally of President Bush.
``These contacts have paid off: at this year's State of the
Union address, Chalabi sat in the VIP box with the first lady, Laura Bush.
Chalabi was also one of the few Iraqis permitted to meet face to face with
Saddam Hussein in his cell in the hours after his capture in late December.
``Chalabi has long been considered the favorite of the Defense
Department officials to lead Iraq's new government.''
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, there is something else troubling
about this. The gentleman from Hawaii (Mr. Abercrombie) is correct and he
is right to be personally offended by the lack of disclosure. And it is also
clear from this article that a lot of money is being spent to influence the
gentleman from Hawaii and me and the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt)
and every other Member of Congress, and we have a right to know who is being
paid to influence us and what the subject matter is.
But the fact that this article also demonstrates that the Bush
administration is pushing three different people to be the next leader of
the Iraq government leads to the following question: What does come next
in the larger governance question? We know that Paul Bremer has been advocating
on behalf of the Bush administration this concept of caucuses, that when
the Bush administration leaves Iraq on June 30, at least the civil authority
is pulled out, that Paul Bremer has been pushing for caucuses to take the
place of direct elections and somehow lead to a representative form of self-government
for Iraq.
The problem is none of the Iraqis like that idea. The head of
the majority Shiite Muslims do not like that idea. The Kurds do not like
that idea. That is not going to happen. What is going to take the place of
the American-appointed 25-member group of what most Iraqis think are American
puppets, the Iraqi Governing Council, what is going to take their place,
particularly if the Bush administration has three different favorites to
lead the next government? What comes next? We have got an arbitrary deadline
set by the President of June 30 to withdraw the civilian authority, a date
that seems more based upon the upcoming election than any ability of the
Iraqi people to actually conduct a self-government.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, is the gentleman suggesting
that there is no exit strategy?
Mr. HOEFFEL. I could not have said it better.
There is clearly no exit strategy. In fact, there are three different strategies,
if the Roll Call article is correct, about who is supposed to lead the next
government, and all of this is supposed to come to fruition by June 30.
Iraq Watch has to come to fruition in 5 minutes tonight. I want
to give my two colleagues an opportunity to make any closing comments.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to say
in that regard that this is my 30th year in public service. I have made friendships
and conducted business, legislative business, and evolved personal relationships
over those 30 years with a great number of individuals. I have particularly
valued those who are sometimes disparagingly referred to as special interests
or lobbyists as if that is seen by many people as a derogatory term or a
term of denigration. And I do not see it that way. I want to make it clear
in terms of my expressed disappointment with regard to this revelation about
Mr. Woolsey; and now I guess I am going to have to wonder about everybody
else too that I have a conversation with, I am not trying to keep people
from making a living.
It does not bother me any. As I say, I have friends who lobby
on behalf of what are called special interests. We all have special interests.
We are a multiplicity of special interests. One has only to read the Federalist
Papers to understand that. In fact, it can be seen as the bulwark of a democratic
republic because we do have factions and many interests competing with one
another for attention and for approbation. There is no question about that.
The only question to be answered in that is do we know that, do we know who
they are and what they are and why they are and so on so we can discern what
the difference is?
I have no problem with people who are our friends, personal
and otherwise, making their positions known to me or to anyone else in the
Congress or anywhere else in public office. What bothers me is when positions
are represented to us and we do not know that someone, in fact, is a paid
representative, particularly on issues of war and peace, life and death.
The folks know and the Speaker knows that I am a member of the Committee
on Armed Services and those are the kinds of things we vote on every day,
and I think every member there, regardless of party, takes seriously, deadly
seriously, I might say without any sense of irony attached to it, take seriously
their responsibility.
But we are dependent in the Congress on getting good information.
The President of the United States is dependent upon getting good information
and making solid judgments based on that information. Anybody who fails to
give the best possible information with the fullest knowledge behind it and
the resources is undermining the Constitution of the United States and failing
their responsibilities as a citizen. In this regard, then, I feel ill used
in this process by Mr. Woolsey, and I feel very definitely that the press
and the Congress need to make inquiries of everybody who comes before us
presenting that information and perspective to us upon which we have to act
in matters of life and death. Everybody has to have the fullest inquiry made
of them as to what their sources of income are and what their sources of
information are, whether they are tainted.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, if I can add to the
gentleman's comments, specifically about what appeared to be the distortions
of information in Iraq. I am not speaking of Mr. Woolsey. I am speaking of
the Iraqi Governing Council representatives, Mr. Chalabi and others. I do
not want to see them benefit any more than they already have from their relationships
if they have misled this country and this government, and I hope that Congress
can figure out a way to deny those individuals, if we can show they intentionally
misled us, from any further contract with the U.S. Government, benefit from
the U.S. Government, promotion by the U.S. Government. If we have been intentionally
misled, if we had gone to war in part under their false comments and under
false pretenses, and particularly, as I believe happened, there have been
additional American deaths because of that faulty information, we need to
cut off those relationships and prohibit any further financial relationships
with these malfeasors.
I yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt).
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
I think what he is saying is what we need is something that does not exist
here in Washington at this moment in our history. And that is openness and
transparency and accountability, and it is not happening. To think that,
and I do not know whether it was the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel)
or the gentleman from Hawaii (Mr. Abercrombie) that mentioned it, they continued
to benefit and with an attitude that arrogance is not a suitable adjective.
It is far beyond arrogance. And it is time to lay everything out on the table
or the American people will lose confidence, not only in the President but
in the Congress.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Can we conclude, Mr. Speaker,
by saying that, at least for the three of us I think I can speak, there will
be openness and transparency and accountability on this floor.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleagues for their
comments. Iraq Watch will be back next week.