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WHILE WE SIT BACK AND ARGUE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD MILITARIZE
SPACE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS ON THAT,
BUT OTHER THAN TO SIMPLY SAY THAT THIS AMENDMENT DIRECTS THE
CONGRESSIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMISSION ON THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF
CHINA, WHICH WAS CREATED IN THE HOUSE LANGUAGE, TO MONITOR --
THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING -- A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT --
SO THAT CHINA CAN REPORT -- WE CAN REPORT ANNUALLY ON CHINESE
SPACE CAPABILITIES AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE FA FACILITATE
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THE DEVELOPMENT. ALL WE'RE ASKING IN THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT IT
BE MONITORED AS PART OF THIS COMMISSION. BUT AGAIN, SAME
ARGUMENT. SAME OLD STORY. DON'T WASTE THE SENATE'S TIME. DON'T
AMEND IT. IF WE AMEND THAT, WE HAVE TO CONFER WITH THE HOUSE.
IT MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE HOURS. WHO KNOWS?
AND COME TO A CONCLUSION. NO AMENDMENTS. WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY
THIS THING. BUT LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS. AN AREA
THAT I'VE -- ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT I'VE OFFERED, NUMBER 4, IS
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IN THE AREA OF ENVIRONMENT. I SERVE AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE HERE IN THE SENATE, AND
I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THIS TO THIS EXTENT. WHAT'S
HAPPENING NOW, YOU KNOW IN AMERICA IF YOU RUN A BUSINESS, YOU
HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, STRICT REGULATORY E.P.A.
REGULATED THAT YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY. AND IT COSTS YOU MONEY.
NOW, I'M NOT COMPLAINING. I THINK SOME OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATIONS ARE GOOD. SOME HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT TOO HARSH.
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BUT I THINK ON THE WHOLE, THE CLEAN AIR ACT THE CLEAN WATER
ACT, SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT, ALL THESE BILLS AND LAWS THAT
WE'VE PASSED DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE IN
CLEANING UP OUR AIR, LAND AND WATER. AND I THINK COMPANIES NOW
REALIZE THAT. HOWEVER, IT'S COST A LOT OF MONEY. BUT GETTING
AWAY FROM THAT, THAT ASIDE, WE'VE ACCEPTED THAT THAT, WHY DO WE
WANT TO ALLOW THE NATION OF CHINA, WHICH WE'RE NOW GIVING
PERMANENT NORMAL TRADE RELATIONS TO, TO NOT HAVE -- ENFORCE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS?
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WHY DO WE WANT TO SAY TO CHINA, YOU CAN PRODUCE A PRODUCT, DUMP
IT ON AMERICA'S MARKET FOR ONE-THIRD OR ONE-FOURTH OR ONE-TENTH
OF WHAT WE CAN SELL IT FOR AND NOT HAVE TO ABIDE BY ANY OF THE
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
CHINA'S PART OF THE WORLD. AMERICA'S PART OF THE WORLD. THE
ATMOSPHERE AND THE OCEANS AND THE LAND, IT'S ALL PART OF ONE.
IT'S THE GLOBE SO. WHY DO WE LET THEM OFF THE HOOK?
WHY DO WE PUNISH OUR PEOPLE AND NOT EVEN ASK THAT THE CHINESE
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BE FORCED TO SOMEHOW ABIDE WITH JUST BASIC ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS AMENDMENT. IT'S JUST SIMPLY AGAIN SAYS
THAT THE COMMISSION WILL MONITOR THE LACK OF, FRANKLY, THE LACK
OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND USE THAT AS LEVERAGE FOR WHEN
WE TRADE WITH THEM. BUT HERE AGAIN, SAME OLD ARGUMENT. LET'S
NOT DEBATE IT. LET'S NOT ADD IT ON. DON'T VOTE FOR THE SMITH
AMENDMENT ON ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY BECAUSE -- ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATION BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE TO GO TO CONFERENCE AND IT MIGHT
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SLOW THE BILL DOWN. WHY IS THE ENVIRONMENT SUCH A DISASTER IN
CHINA TODAY?
THE ANSWER'S SIMPLE. I'LL TELL YOU WHY. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN
CHINA DON'T ENJOY POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC FREEDOM, THAT'S Y.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BREATHE
THAT FILTHY AIR. PER CAPITA EMISSIONS IN CHINA ARE 75% HIGHER
THAN IN BRAZIL, WHICH HAS AN ECONOMY OF SIMILAR SIZE. THE
DIFFERENCE IS, COMMUNISM DOESN'T WORK. AND A PROSPEROUS ECONOMY
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AND A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT CAN GO TOGETHER. A FREE PEOPLE
WOULDN'T CONSENT TO THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER, AND DO
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE SHOULDN'T CONSENT TO IT EITHER. BUT WE ARE. WE ARE SAYING,
NO PROBLEM, DON'T WANT TO HAVE A CONFERENCE, DON'T WANT TO
WASTE ANY TIME, DON'T WANT TO TAKE AN EXTRA DAY OR TWO TO ADD
AN AMENDMENT HERE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR CHINA'S LACK
OF ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS. NO PROBLEM. DON'T
TO WANT SLOW IT DOWN. WELL, THAT'S WHAT MY AMENDMENT DOES. SO
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IF YOU FEEL THAT IT'S FINE, THAT CHINA CONTINUES TO POLLUTE AT
75% HIGHER THE RATE OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD FOR THE
MOST PART, YOU DON'T CARE, YOU WANT TO JUST KEEP RIGHT ON
TRADING WITH THEM, KEEP RIGHT ON MAKING PROFITS, KEEP ON
FEEDING THEM, FINE. FORMER U.N. AMBASSADOR GENE KIRKPATRICK
ONCE CRITICIZED MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE AISLE ON THE DEMOCRAT
SIDE FOR THEIR TENDENCY TO -- QUOTE -- "BLAME AMERICA FIRST.
THAT IS, FOR THEIR BELIEF THAT THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG
WITH THIS GREAT NATION THAT CAUSES THE WORLD'S ILLS. WELL, KEEP
THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU CONSIDER MY AMENDMENT. IF LAWS SUCH AS
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THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND THE CLEAN WATER ACT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH OF THIS NATION, THEN SHOULDN'T THEY BE
BENEFICIAL TO CHINA AS WELL?
DO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT SO BADLY THAT WE'RE WILLING
TO SAY, LET THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN THAT FILTH, IN THAT DIRTY AIR,
LET THAT DIRTY AIR MOVE OUT OF CHINA AND ACROSS THE OCEANS AND
INTO OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD?
DO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT THAT BADLY?
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IF WE DO, SHAME ON US. SHAME ON US. LET ME TELL YOU ONE OF THE
MOST SHAMEFUL TWO MORE ISSUES -- TWO MORE AMENDMENTS, AMENDMENT
NUMBER FIVE, ONE OF THE MOST SHAMEFUL EXPERIENCES -- ISSUES
THAT'S OCCURRING IN TERMS OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS IN THE
COUNTRY OF CHINA. AND HERE AGAIN, I'VE ALREADY HEARD THE
ARGUMENT, I'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD BY COLLEAGUES, DON'T OFFER
THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY THE PROCESS
AGAIN. WELL, I THINK THE PICTURE I HAVE UP HERE, IT'S NOT
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PLEASANT TO LOOK AT -- I DON'T LIKE TO LOOK AT IT -- BUT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS PICTURE. MY COLLEAGUES NEED TO
SEE IT. THIS AMENDMENT THAT I'M OFFERING SEEKS TO IMPROVE THE
QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ORPHANS LIKE THIS LITTLE GIRL WHO ARE
CURRENTLY WAITING TO BE ADOPTED OUT OF CHINESE ORPHANAGES. WHAT
A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE TO BE A CHILD IN A CHINESE ORPHANAGE?
BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE SAYING?
NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM. THAT'S CHINA. HEY, WE NEED TO SELL OUR
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WHEAT, MAN. WE NEED TO SELL OUR CORN. WE NEED TO MAKE A PROFIT.
WE'LL JUST IGNORE THAT. THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. WE DON'T
HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THAT
WAS IN AR ORPHANAGE IN THE UNITED STATES?
WE ALL KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, AND JUSTIFIABLY SO. IT WOULD BE
SHUT DOWN. THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE IN THERE LIKE HORNETS, AS
WELL THEY SHOULD BE. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
IT'S CHINA. IT'S NOT OUR COUNTRY. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. NOW, WE
CAN'T SHUT THEIR ORPHANAGES DONE. NOT PROPOSING TO DO THAT. BUT
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WE CAN MONITOR IT AND WE CAN SAY TO THE CHINESE, IF PNTR
PASSES, YOU KEEP THIS UP AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRADE YOU OUR
CORN. BUT OH NO, THAT MIGHT MESS UP THE DEAL. OKAY?
WE WOULD -- IT WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT, THIS
AMENDMENT, TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC DATA, SUCH AS THE SURVIVAL RATES
OF ORPHANS LIKE THIS YOUNG LADY, CERTIFY THAT ORPHANS ARE
RECEIVING PROPER MEDICAL AND NUTRITIONAL CARE, AND SHOW THAT
ALL EFFORTS ARE BEING MADE TO HELP THE CHILDREN, PARTICULARLY
THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, WHO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST
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PUNISHED IN THESE ORPHANAGES TO BE ADOPTED INTO LOVING HOMES BY
WAY OF CHINESE, INTERNATIONAL OR U.S. ADOPTION AGENCIES. HOW
CAN WE IGNORE THIS?
HOW CAN ANYBODY IN GOOD CONSCIENCE SAY, SENATOR SMITH, YOU'RE
RIGHT, THIS IS A TERRIBLE ATROCITY. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT
THIS ON THE BILL BECAUSE IT MIGHT DELAY 9 BILL AND IT MIGHT
CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH THE CHINESE AND WE MIGHT NOT GET PNTR
PASSED. HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?
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THE CONDITIONS OF MILLIONS OF ORPHANS IN CHINA ARE DEPLORABLE,
JUST LIKE THIS. MANY CHINESE PEOPLE WANT AND FRANKLY FEEL THEY
NEED TO HAVE A BABY BOY WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT A SON WILL
TAKE CARE OF THEM WHEN THEY'RE OLD. THE SON CARRIES THE FAMILY
NAME. IT'S CONSIDERED HONORABLE TO HAVE A SON. NOT SO WITH A
GIRL. A GIRL IS EXPECTED TO GROW UP TO LEAVE THE FAMILY WITH
HER HUSBAND AND WILL NOT CARE FOR HER PARENTS WHEN THEY'RE OLD.
IF A CHINESE WOMAN BEARS A BABY GIRL, MANY TIMES THEY WILL DROP
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HER OFF ANONYMOUSLY AT AN ORPHANAGE, SOMETIMES THEY ABANDON
HER, KILL HER OUTRIGHT OR THROW HER INTO THE GARBAGE. OR EVEN
WORSE, AS SENATOR HELMS I THINK IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SHORTLY,
ABORT THE CHILD WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE MOTHER. IT'S
UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THESE LITTLE CHILDREN SUFFER. SOME ARE LUCKY
AND THEY GET ADOPTED. BUT BELIEVE ME, NOT MANY. AMERICANS THAT
ADOPTED 20,000 CHINESE BABY GIRLS. SOME BABIES LEAVE CHINA FOR
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AMERICA EVERY MONTH. HOWEVER, SOME OF THESE LITTLE GIRLS AND
BABY BOYS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS ARE LEFT TO LANGUISH AND DIE IN
DARK, ROTTING ROOMS AND STATE-RUN ORPHANAGES IN CHINA. AND HOW
CAN YOU IGNORE IT?
HOW CAN YOU COME DOWN HERE AND SAY, "WE'RE GOING TO IGNORE ALL
THIS AND GIVE THEM PERMANENT NORMAL TRADE RELATIONS"?
ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS, A YOUNG COUPLE, CAME TO ME A FEW MONTHS
AGO AND THEY WERE HERE ON A GREEN CARD. AND THEY SAID, YOU
KNOW, SENATOR, IF I GO BACK, I'M PREGNANT. THEY'VE TOLD ME
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THEY'RE GOING TO ABORT MY CHILD. I WANT MY CHILD. ONE OF THE
GREATEST EXPERIENCES I'VE EVER HAD WAS CRYING WITH THEM WHEN WE
GOT THAT -- THEIR DEPORTATION BLOCKED AND SHE HAD THAT BABY
RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THIS KIND OF HORRIBLE
ATROCITIES. MANY OF THESE BABIES WERE NOT EVEN FED OR GIVEN
WATER. SOME WERE STARVED TO COST-BENEFIT. -- SOME WERE STARVED
TO DEATH. WHY IS IT SO BAD?
WHY IS IT SO HARMFUL, I PLEAD WITH MY COLLEAGUES, TO SAY LET'S
ASK THE COMMISSION TO REPORT ON THIS IN PNTR?
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IS THAT SO BAD?
IS THAT SO TERRIBLE?
THAT MAYBE THE HOUSE HAS TO AGREE WITH ME AND YOU GUYS -- AND
THE CONFEREES HAVE TO AGREE AND SEND IT BACK OVER?
FOR ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES OF DEBATE?
REALLY?
THIS BABY GIRL IS NE MING. DO YOU KNOW WHAT NEMING MEANS IN
CHINA?
NO NAME. SHE WAS DISCOVERED IN ONE OF THESE ORPHANAGES IN 1995.
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AND ACCORDING TO THE ORPHANAGE STAFF, NE MING BECAME SICK AND
THEY HAD NO MEDICATION FOR HER HER. NONE. SO THEY PUT HER IN A
BACK ROOM UNDER A PILE OF CLOTHES AND THEY SHUT THE DOOR. THIS
IS A PICTURE OF HER AT TEN DAYS WITHOUT FOOD OR WATER IN AN
ORPHANAGE. SHE LIVED ANOTHER FOUR DAYS JUST LIKE THAT AND THEN
SHE DIED. THE ORPHANAGE DENIED THAT SHE EVEN EXISTED. THEY SAID
SHE WAS NEVER THERE. THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE, THIS CHINESE
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GOVERNMENT THAT ALLOWS THIS -- NOT THE PEOPLE, THE GOVERNMENT
THAT ALLOWS THIS TO TAKE PLACE. THE ONLY REMAINING MEMORY OF NE
MING -- LET'S HOLD IT UP HERE -- THE ONLY REMAINING MEMORY OF
NE MING IS THIS PHOTOGRAPH RIGHT HERE. AND I SAY TO MY
COLLEAGUES, IN THE NAME OF NE MING, PLEASE, PASS THIS
AMENDMENT. PASS THIS AMENDMENT. LET THE HOUSE TAKE A FEW
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MINUTES TO ADD LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT THE COMMISSION IN THE
NAME OF NE MING COULD REPORT ON THIS KIND OF ATROCITY AS YOU
REAP YOUR PROFITS. IS THAT ASKING TOO MUCH?
SOME ORPHANAGE IN THE 1990'S HAD DEATH RATES ESTIMATED AS HIGH
AS 90%. 90%. I'VE HEARD REPORTS THAT SINCE THE PUBLIC SCRUTINY
OF THE LAST DECADE, THE CONDITIONS IN THE CHINESE ORPHANAGES
HAVE IMPROVED, AND I'VE -- I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT IF THAT IS, INDEED, TRUE. BUT I -- IT WOULD BE NICE
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TO HAVE THIS AS PART OF THE LANGUAGE TO FIND OUT. THE LAST
AMENDMENT, MR. PRESIDENT -- AND THEN I WON'T DELAY THE SENATE
ANY LONGER. SENATOR BOB SMITH WILL NO LONGER HOLD UP THE SENATE
BUSINESS AND WILL BE ABLE TO PASS PNTR AND IGNORE AWFUL THESE
THINGS, IGNORE ALL THE AMENDMENTS. WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE ON.
MAKE OUR PROFITS. SO JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES. ORGAN HARVESTING
IN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. DO YOU THINK THAT'S BAD
RIGHT THERE?
IT'S BAD. LET ME TELL YOU, OR BEGAN HARVESTING. DO YOU KNOW IN
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AMERICA WHAT ORGAN HARVESTING MEANS?
AMERICA IS YOU WILLINGLY DONATE YOUR KIDNEY TO YOUR SISTER OR
TO YOUR BROTHER OR TO YOUR MOTHER OR DAD, OR YOUR HEART WHEN
YOU DIE IN AN ACCIDENT. YOU GIVE SO THAT SOMEONE ELSE MAY HAVE
LIFE. THAT'S ORGAN DONORS. ORGAN HARVESTING IN THE PEOPLE'S
REPUBLIC OF CHINA, SPONSORED BY THIS CHINESE GOVERNMENT THAT
WE'RE SO HELL-BENT TO HELP, LET'S TELL WHAT YOU THEY DO. THEY
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TAKE PRISONERS -- AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MURDERERS HERE,
WE'RE TALK ABOUT PRISONERS WHO HAVE FOR THE MOST PART SOMETIMES
MINOR CRIMES -- AND THEY TAKE THEIR ORGANS SO THAT THEY CAN
PLACE THEM IN MILITARY OFFICERS OR OTHER HIGH, IMPORTANT PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNIST HIERARCHY. THIS -- IN 1997, ABC NEWS TELEVISED
A VERY SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY ON THE PRACTICE OF -- ON THIS
PRACTICE OF ORGAN HARVESTING IN COMMUNIST CHINA. THE
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DOCUMENTARY -- THIS IS ABC NOW, NOT SMITH TALK -- DEPICTED
PRISONERS WHO WERE VIDEOTAPED -- PRISONERS WHO WERE VIDEOTAPED
-- LINED UP, EXECUTED BY A BULLET TO THE HEAD, A TECHNIQUE OF
EXECUTION WHICH UNLIKE LETHAL INJECTION PRESERVES THE ORGANS
FOR HARVESTING. NOW, DON'T TELL ME IT DOESN'T GO ON AND DON'T
TELL ME YOU'RE GOING TO IGNORE IT, BECAUSE IT GOES ON, IT
HAPPENS. PROBABLY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS I SPEAK. THIS
DOCUMENTARY CLAIMED THAT PRISONERS ARE EXECUTED ROUTINELY AND
THEIR ORGANS ARE SOLD TO PEOPLE WILLING TO PAY AS MUCH AS
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$30,000 FOR A KIDNEY KIDNEY. HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE
ESTIMATED AT THE TIME THE ABC DOCUMENTARY AIRED THAT
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