####018001602#### WTNT43 KNHC 070857 TCDAT3 TROPICAL STORM HANNA DISCUSSION NUMBER 42 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL082008 500 AM EDT SUN SEP 07 2008 THE CLOUD PATTERN ASSOCIATED WITH HANNA IS SPREADING OUT WELL AHEAD OF THE SURFACE CENTER...WITH THE CLOSEST DEEP CONVECTION NOW DISPLACED ABOUT 125 NMI TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST. THE CIRCULATION IS ALSO CLOSE TO...BUT NOT QUITE ENTANGLED WITH...A FRONTAL BOUNDARY. BASED ON THE LOSS OF CONVECTION NEAR THE CORE...HANNA IS NO LONGER CONSIDERED TO BE A TROPICAL CYCLONE AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST ADVISORY. MAXIMUM WINDS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 45 KT BASED ON SHIP REPORTS...AND HANNA IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN A VIGOROUS EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE DURING ITS PASSAGE OVER THE NORTH ATLANTIC. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS. FUTURE INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE FOUND IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OCEAN PREDICTION CENTER...UNDER AWIPS HEADER NFDHSFAT1 AND WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 07/0900Z 42.6N 70.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL 12HR VT 07/1800Z 45.4N 64.5W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL 24HR VT 08/0600Z 48.4N 57.1W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL 36HR VT 08/1800Z 50.0N 50.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL 48HR VT 09/0600Z 51.0N 43.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL 72HR VT 10/0600Z 53.5N 27.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL 96HR VT 11/0600Z 58.0N 16.0W 40 KT...EXTRATROPICAL 120HR VT 12/0600Z...ABSORBED WITHIN EXTRATROPICAL LOW $$ FORECASTER FRANKLIN ####018002000#### WTPZ43 KNHC 070857 TCDEP3 TROPICAL STORM LOWELL DISCUSSION NUMBER 2 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP132008 200 AM PDT SUN SEP 07 2008 MICROWAVE PASSES SUGGEST THAT THE CENTER OF LOWELL IS A LITTLE NORTHEAST OF EARLIER ESTIMATES...NEAR THE NORTHEASTERN EDGE OF A MASS OF CONVECTION THAT IS VERY COLD BUT RELATIVELY SHAPELESS. THE SYSTEM IS EXPERIENCING NORTHEASTERLY SHEAR OF ABOUT 20 KT...BUT THIS SHEAR IS FORECAST TO LESSEN SOMEWHAT OVER THE NEXT 24-36 HOURS. THE GFDL SHOWS LITTLE DEVELOPMENT...BUT THE HWRF AND SHIPS MODELS BRING LOWELL UP TO ABOUT 60 KT AND THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS THE LATTER TWO MODELS. NEAR THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD COOLER WATERS AND SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR ARE EXPECTED TO INDUCE WEAKENING. LOWELL IS CURRENTLY MOVING AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE EXTENDING WESTWARD FROM MEXICO. THE MODEL GUIDANCE HAS CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY WITH THE 00Z RUNS...WITH ALL THE DYNAMICAL MODELS NOW SHOWING A MID- TO UPPER LEVEL TROUGH EXTENDING SOUTHWARD FROM CALIFORNIA THAT TURNS LOWELL NORTHWARD AND NORTHEASTWARD BY DAY THREE. IN FACT...THE GFDL AND ECMWF TURN LOWELL SO SHARPLY THAT IT RECURVES SOUTH OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS ADJUSTED TO THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY BUT STILL LIES ON THE EXTREME LEFT OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE. THERE ARE SOME HINTS IN THE MODELS THAT THE LOW AND MID-LEVEL CIRCULATIONS COULD SEPARATE BY DAY THREE...AND THIS LOWERS CONFIDENCE IN THE LONGER TERM TRACK FORECAST. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 07/0900Z 16.6N 107.2W 35 KT 12HR VT 07/1800Z 17.3N 108.6W 40 KT 24HR VT 08/0600Z 18.2N 110.5W 50 KT 36HR VT 08/1800Z 18.7N 112.0W 60 KT 48HR VT 09/0600Z 19.4N 113.4W 60 KT 72HR VT 10/0600Z 20.5N 114.5W 55 KT 96HR VT 11/0600Z 21.5N 115.0W 45 KT 120HR VT 12/0600Z 22.5N 114.5W 35 KT $$ FORECASTER FRANKLIN